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Old 03-01-2016, 17:18
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David needs to grow a pair.
Yes, David is a pussy.


Thing is I think we're really meant to be sympathetic. The writing is meant to make us admire David for being so forbearing and modern, and we're meant to feel for Ruth in the confused turmoil of her mourning and sense of loss.

... Instead we just wish Brookfield had ejector seats like on Graham Norton, and lever the pair of bores into oblivion.
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Old 03-01-2016, 19:43
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What's happening with the Archers? It's the 65th anniversary I thought they'd be some extra spice with the storyline but it was a bit lacklustre to be honest, an anti climax. For the 60th anniversary Nigel fell off the roof! Now I'm not suggesting someone should die but I expected a bit more, particularly as there are a few things brewing i.e Rob and Helen and/ or Adam and Ian, (Ian knows about Adam's dalliance with Charlie). I thought they'd take the opportunity to do something.

I'm really bored with the Ruth and David storyline. I really couldn't care less what happens with the two of them. I thought Ruth would ask David for a divorce which would have been a relief for me but it didn't happen.
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Old 03-01-2016, 19:45
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Isn't a rejection of modern dairy farming methods not enough for you? Its ground-breaking!
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Old 03-01-2016, 19:57
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Isn't a rejection of modern dairy farming methods not enough for you? Its ground-breaking!
Oh yes of course!
When David when riding off on the quad bike I thought 'oh, oh' but alas nothing.
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Old 03-01-2016, 22:13
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I'm a bit puzzled about this David/Ruth storyline.

A few days ago David was saying they'd have to sell the herd, but he's getting upset because Ruth says they should sell the herd With Ruth's plan at least they'll still be in dairy which is surely what he wants, even if it is on a different basis.

Also they talk about spring calving as if it's ground-breaking, when they used to do that up until a couple of years ago.
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Old 04-01-2016, 07:02
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I'm a bit puzzled about this David/Ruth storyline.

A few days ago David was saying they'd have to sell the herd, but he's getting upset because Ruth says they should sell the herd With Ruth's plan at least they'll still be in dairy which is surely what he wants, even if it is on a different basis.

Also they talk about spring calving as if it's ground-breaking, when they used to do that up until a couple of years ago.
The agricultural lines are becoming very sloppy, and as you say this one is incoherent and contradictory.

You can tell it's going to go on and on with Daaeevid continually giving in, trying to appease Rooth re the dairy herd, until it comes to the crunch, then there will be a big row and fracas.

Jill will have to make lots of stew to temper their metabolism and aggression.
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Old 04-01-2016, 13:54
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I'm a bit puzzled about this David/Ruth storyline.

A few days ago David was saying they'd have to sell the herd, but he's getting upset because Ruth says they should sell the herd With Ruth's plan at least they'll still be in dairy which is surely what he wants, even if it is on a different basis.

Also they talk about spring calving as if it's ground-breaking, when they used to do that up until a couple of years ago.
Yes I agree. I'm not a fan of David or Ruth and sincerely wished they'd both left for Prodhoe like they were promising and I think Ruth has been far too much hard work recently but she has come back buzzing with good ideas and doesn't want a divorce as David worried but still he's not happy.

I don't think David likes anything that isn't his idea to be honest.
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Old 04-01-2016, 18:03
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... Instead we just wish Brookfield had ejector seats like on Graham Norton, and lever the pair of bores into oblivion.
That would be great!

Can I nominate Peggy Woolley to be the first to go? She's a bigoted old control freak who uses the possibility of disinheriting family members to manipulate them.

Second on my list would be the ridiculous waste of new-age space that is the 30-something spoiled brat Kate Aldridge.
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Old 04-01-2016, 20:08
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Lordy it's a right old livestock carousel down Ambridge hey.

Pigs back at Grange, cows out at Berrow.... and Ruth selling the lot at Brookfield, except for the few old Guernseys she'll milk by hand in her gingham milkmaid outfit.
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Old 04-01-2016, 20:16
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Ruth was really getting on my nerves when she was all cheerful and ready to go full steam ahead with whatever changes they're on about. A bit different to how misery guts she was before she went away - just because everyone's listening to her and they're doing what she wants, and David's terrified she'll leave him

This decision seems to have been made a bit fast for such an important one. Ruth's only been back a few days and now they're selling all the cows I'm not surprised David's worried - though he's getting on my nerves as well with his moody, sulky voice, which Ruth didn't seem to notice

ETA Clarrie is also getting on my nerves and has been for a while. She always sounds as if she's about to have a breakdown or something - I know she's had a lot to contend with, but get a grip woman.
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:28
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Jill will have to make lots of stew to temper their metabolism and aggression.
Given the way that Jill uses casserole or cake to resolve all and any distress or family upset, I'm starting to wonder if she has some cannabis growing in her herb garden.

It would certainly explain her apparent belief in the mood-altering properties of her cooking.
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:32
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The agricultural lines are becoming very sloppy, and as you say this one is incoherent and contradictory.
Yes, unless you can buy a dairy herd already well in calf, they won't have any calves for over a year.

I'd have thought that a switch like that would take a lot of planning. But them I'm not a farmer.

And... as Brookfield lamb late (March, iirc), wouldn't this make them awfully busy in the spring? They'll be up to their armpits in livestock's lady bits for weeks on end.
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:03
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Rob and Helen last night - oh my word! I think the word "sorry" has been well and truly overused already this year
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:33
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Any chance that Rob could have sabotaged Shula's cheek strap to engineer another knight in shining armour moment? Presumably after Shula, as an experienced horsewoman, had done the normal pre-ride tack checks?

Later on he was just had an anger flash to divert Helen from the very real issue of him siphoning money from the joint account. I don't call buying a loved one expensive gifts from shared funds an expression of love and devotion.
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Old 06-01-2016, 10:11
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Any chance that Rob could have sabotaged Shula's cheek strap to engineer another knight in shining armour moment? Presumably after Shula, as an experienced horsewoman, had done the normal pre-ride tack checks?

Later on he was just had an anger flash to divert Helen from the very real issue of him siphoning money from the joint account. I don't call buying a loved one expensive gifts from shared funds an expression of love and devotion.
Absolutely re the cheek strap. It's all part of his plan so that nobody will believe Helen if she starts to complain about him.

Ditto your second paragraph.

I can see the physical violence starting soon, and she'll be apologising for him hitting her because "it's your fault Helen, you should have done what I said" "I'm so sorry Rob, it won't happen again".
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Old 06-01-2016, 12:14
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Yes, agree with both.

Rob has already rescued Chris Barfoot in the flood, now he's saved Shula, he's got the Bridge Farm Archers eating out of his hand and when Helen finally comes to her senses and reveals what's been going on, they'll all think she's crazy because he's such an all round hero.

It's very cleverly done imo.
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Old 06-01-2016, 13:52
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What's happening with the Archers? It's the 65th anniversary I thought they'd be some extra spice with the storyline but it was a bit lacklustre to be honest, an anti climax. For the 60th anniversary Nigel fell off the roof! Now I'm not suggesting someone should die but I expected a bit more, particularly as there are a few things brewing i.e Rob and Helen and/ or Adam and Ian, (Ian knows about Adam's dalliance with Charlie). I thought they'd take the opportunity to do something.

I'm really bored with the Ruth and David storyline. I really couldn't care less what happens with the two of them. I thought Ruth would ask David for a divorce which would have been a relief for me but it didn't happen.

This saves me typing........I agree with everything you say.....
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Old 06-01-2016, 13:56
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Given the way that Jill uses casserole or cake to resolve all and any distress or family upset, I'm starting to wonder if she has some cannabis growing in her herb garden.

It would certainly explain her apparent belief in the mood-altering properties of her cooking.
.........a bit like Bettys hotpot at the Rovers........I always wonder when they suggest a secret recipe......
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Old 06-01-2016, 20:19
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Ian was pretty harsh with Helen wasn't he? Serves the dozy mare right I suppose. I wonder if Ian will ever tell Adam what Rob told him....

I suppose Phoebe will have got into Oxford I was hoping she wouldn't just to put Jenny's nose out of joint
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Old 07-01-2016, 09:55
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I am kind of not looking forward to seeing where the Rob and Helen storyline goes now as he is getting more horrible and trying (and succeeding) to alienate her from friends and family
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Old 07-01-2016, 12:03
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I think it's great that we're all joining together with our loathing of Rob. I think the writers were right in having it as a very slow burner but surely Helen must start to think that all is not right, particularly with the cafe.

As for Alex trying to manipulate Phoebe, is there really enough room for 2 similar storylines?
it seems that Helen believes everything that comes out of Rob's mouth just to keep the peace......I was beginning to believe that he was trying to bump her off and make off with Henry and the new baby boy he so badly wants, but I do have this vivid imagination.

I did wonder if Rob was the father to his ex-wife's baby and was secretly paying maintenance for him, at the same time saying the DNA test said he was not and did not have anything to do with that baby., and maybe that would be his downfall. He is some sort of awful twisting shyster isn't he........grrrrrrr.......
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Old 07-01-2016, 12:08
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I am kind of not looking forward to seeing where the Rob and Helen storyline goes now as he is getting more horrible and trying (and succeeding) to alienate her from friends and family
I know what you mean, it is sometimes painful to listen to what is happening and I want to throw something at the radio and shout at Helen to get a grip and stand up to him. It will all end in tears again for Helen and more dramas for the Archer clan.
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Old 07-01-2016, 17:59
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it seems that Helen believes everything that comes out of Rob's mouth just to keep the peace......I was beginning to believe that he was trying to bump her off and make off with Henry and the new baby boy he so badly wants, but I do have this vivid imagination.

I did wonder if Rob was the father to his ex-wife's baby and was secretly paying maintenance for him, at the same time saying the DNA test said he was not and did not have anything to do with that baby., and maybe that would be his downfall. He is some sort of awful twisting shyster isn't he........grrrrrrr.......
The DNA results were posted by whichever organisation carried them out to (I think) Rob and his ex. I don't think Rob fixed them - how could he?
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Old 07-01-2016, 18:43
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The DNA results were posted by whichever organisation carried them out to (I think) Rob and his ex. I don't think Rob fixed them - how could he?
The sample he provided might not have been his own.

Isn't a DNA sample just a mouth swab? Easily substituted.
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Old 07-01-2016, 19:27
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The sample he provided might not have been his own.

Isn't a DNA sample just a mouth swab? Easily substituted.
I thought someone would have taken the swab/sample from Rob in person - I didn't realise he could have just sent it in. Or perhaps he got that guy who disappeared when the causes of the flood were being investigated to pretend to be him and give the sample...

I must admit I'm surprised it's easy to fake these tests. You'd think there'd be procedures in place to prevent tthat happening.

I hope we're not going to have to suffer loads of David and Ruth blathering on about the pros and cons of selling the cows. Some of their conversation tonight seemed a bit familiar - could the writers have recycled the scripts from when they were moving to Prudhoe
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