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Old 05-02-2016, 23:10
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If I had a gun I would shoot the evil bar stool. >
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Old 05-02-2016, 23:33
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I think she's probably collapsed from lack of food. Either that or the drugs The Evil One is slipping into her coffee have had an adverse effect.

He's obviously the one altering the orders and blaming her. And how vile of him to try and poison Henry against her
Oh so she actually collapsed? Thanks, I wasn't quite sure what happened. This storyline surely must come to a head soon. Don't know how much more I can bear?!
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Old 06-02-2016, 11:42
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Oh so she actually collapsed? Thanks, I wasn't quite sure what happened. This storyline surely must come to a head soon. Don't know how much more I can bear?!
I agree. I feel physically sick when Rob starts his manipulation.
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Old 07-02-2016, 20:08
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I missed Friday's episode, so only heard it this morning. Friday's and tonight's episode made me so angry.

I just hope Kirsty talks to Pat or Tom and they all find out that Rob has been massively exaggerating how ill Helen is.

His dreadful manipulation must get found out soon ffs!
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Old 07-02-2016, 22:34
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I just hope Kirsty talks to Pat or Tom and they all find out that Rob has been massively exaggerating how ill Helen is
But Pat thinks the sun shines out of his behind now.
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Old 07-02-2016, 23:09
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I agree. I feel physically sick when Rob starts his manipulation.
I agree I only have to hear is 'oily' voice and my lips curl! I don't like Helen much either but she doesn't deserve his antics nor does Henry of course.
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Old 08-02-2016, 12:31
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It is deeply upsetting and I think I'm switching off till the storyline is finished.
For me (and I stress it's just for me) they've crossed a line.
And how vile of him to try and poison Henry against her
tonight's episode made me so angry.

I just hope Kirsty talks to Pat or Tom and they all find out that Rob has been massively exaggerating how ill Helen is.

His dreadful manipulation must get found out soon ffs!
Agree with all of the above. It was awful to hear the slow build to the abuse sl 6 months ago. Now it's almost like the audience itself is being abused - we're in pain, feel helpless to do anything, but stick around because we love The Archers. For how much longer? I completely understand Welsh-lad deciding enough's enough.

I think they've crossed a line too. Because however cathartic the final unmasking of Rob, it'll never make up for the hundreds of upsetting incidents and comments that we've been party too - unlike any other character in TA apart from Helen herself.

Also, it's made us despise characters who seem wilfully blind to what's happening before their eyes. Her own mother. Henwy joining in the bullying and belittling. (Yes I know he's a kid and another victim of Rob, but I still can't help thinking you little g*t!) Very worthy of the writers to reflect what happens IRL, but it's skewed the internal logic of the drama, as not much else in TA is based on harsh reality.

And if I hear one more "You look pale / tired.... No I'm fine.... It must be hormones.... You're overdoing things... Really I'm fine just me leave me alone" exchange, I think I'll scream. Well I already have!
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Old 08-02-2016, 19:16
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Oh Pat if only you knew.
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Old 08-02-2016, 20:29
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If the Bank of Peggy turns her down, maybe Pat will step in with some funds for Kate's business - she used to be a bit of an 'alternative' herself.

I missed Helen's collapse in the shop Must catch up.

I'm still loving sinister swine Rob . No intention of switching off until the story's done and dusted Pat seemed a bit doubtful and worried this evening, Kirsty's worked out something's very wrong - so I guess Rob's days are numbered
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Old 08-02-2016, 20:56
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If the Bank of Peggy turns her down, maybe Pat will step in with some funds for Kate's business - she used to be a bit of an 'alternative' herself.

I missed Helen's collapse in the shop Must catch up.

I'm still loving sinister swine Rob . No intention of switching off until the story's done and dusted Pat seemed a bit doubtful and worried this evening, Kirsty's worked out something's very wrong - so I guess Rob's days are numbered
I don't think so, they will keep it going util after the baby is born. Then I think he will go for custody for both Henry and the Baby
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Old 12-02-2016, 19:16
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Felt a bit sorry for the nice Fairbrother boy when he was just too nice to talk Matthew down, and when he heard Matthew had the weekend off. His not so nice brother could be right though, if he stays friends with Pip he'll be on the spot should she become available again

Rob tonight

I hope his mother gives him a hard time when she comes to stay.

Wonder if there are plastic bags full of porridge and baked cod under Helen's bed....
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Old 12-02-2016, 19:40
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Rob tonight

I hope his mother gives him a hard time when she comes to stay.
My first thought was that she was going to be another prison warden for Helen

I wonder if Rob teaching Henry how to be obedient included physical assault?
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Old 12-02-2016, 20:06
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Originally Posted by seejay63;81492157[B
]My first thought was that she was going to be another prison warden for Helen[/b]

I wonder if Rob teaching Henry how to be obedient included physical assault?
Yes, I think she is too, but her relationship with Rob seemed a bit fraught when she visited a while back, so he may not get it all his own way.
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Old 12-02-2016, 21:58
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My first thought was that she was going to be another prison warden for Helen

I wonder if Rob teaching Henry how to be obedient included physical assault?
I hate the way this is going, after listening since the mid fifties, I think I am turning off every time I hear Robs voice. It's staring to upset me now. I dread what his intentions are re Henry.
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Old 13-02-2016, 15:16
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Wassailing? How medieval.
Oh and there's a barn (or something) on fire too. Nothing like a good blaze to dry out the last traces of that dampness since the flood.

May as well go the full Emmerdale now and drop an aeroplane on them all.
I didn't realise there was an Archers thread on DS!

Wassailing is still quite popular in January. I've been to a few around here, but we're deep in zoider country....

My theory on the Rob-Helen storyline is that they'll spin it out for the remainder of the year with a denouement at Christmas, but that Helen will have twigged a lot earlier than that and the outcome will come with a lot of planning on her end.
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Old 14-02-2016, 11:52
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It's interesting how particularly distressing people are finding the Rob/Helen storyline. Actually, the Archers has never shied away from taking on the occasional hard-to-listen-to sl - Greg's suicide, depression more than once (although I don't think they dealt well with it in Kenton's recent bout), Kathy's rape... so it's although it's not common it's not unheard of for them to tackle difficult situations. The fact that they don't flood the programme with dramatic sls gives it a lot more impact when they do, imo. Personally I believe it's a good thing that this sort of abuse is brought to light and I hope that at least some people who have previously thought of domestic abuse in a stereotypical way are realising that is not all about fists and black eyes and council estates.

I'm not sure about Ursula, I think she might turn out to be a good thing - there must be a reason they had her visit Helen without contacting Rob first a while ago. And wasn't it the midwife who was a bit suspicious earlier? They're certainly laying plenty of trails so presumably plenty of red herrings too. And there's always the possibility that they're going to go the whole hog and have Helen eventually kill him in self-defence, especially as he's turning his sights on Henry.
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Old 14-02-2016, 12:20
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I didn't realise there was an Archers thread on DS!

Wassailing is still quite popular in January. I've been to a few around here, but we're deep in zoider country....

My theory on the Rob-Helen storyline is that they'll spin it out for the remainder of the year with a denouement at Christmas, but that Helen will have twigged a lot earlier than that and the outcome will come with a lot of planning on her end.
Oh god, I can't take it going on til Christmas! I hope they start wrapping it up way before that. This week's was just skin-crawlingly creepy. And it would be ridiculous if people didn't start realising soon - Kirsty knows, Tom's got an inkling, surely. And once Rosemary's baby has been born, what excuse with Rob have to keep Helen at home, not driving? Pat will surely see how miserable she is.
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Old 14-02-2016, 13:16
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Oh god, I can't take it going on til Christmas! I hope they start wrapping it up way before that. This week's was just skin-crawlingly creepy. And it would be ridiculous if people didn't start realising soon - Kirsty knows, Tom's got an inkling, surely. And once Rosemary's baby has been born, what excuse with Rob have to keep Helen at home, not driving? Pat will surely see how miserable she is.
So we are in for a long haul with the Archers and Robs cruelty. Well, every time I hear his voice I am switching off. I hate this storyline.
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Old 14-02-2016, 13:20
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I didn't realise there was an Archers thread on DS!

Wassailing is still quite popular in January. I've been to a few around here, but we're deep in zoider country....

My theory on the Rob-Helen storyline is that they'll spin it out for the remainder of the year with a denouement at Christmas, but that Helen will have twigged a lot earlier than that and the outcome will come with a lot of planning on her end.
BIB Yes we're here but it's hotted up since the Rob_Helen storyline started.
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Old 14-02-2016, 13:31
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So we are in for a long haul with the Archers and Robs cruelty. Well, every time I hear his voice I am switching off. I hate this storyline.
No, we don't know that. One poster suggested it, but we really don't know. I hope it starts to move towards a climax soon, because it's damn hard to listen to.
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Old 14-02-2016, 18:48
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He's getting so much nastier that I can't see how they can keep it going for months. He'd have half of Borsetshire under his thumb by Christmas!

His speech about obedience to Henwy made my blood run cold. Surely to god he's not going to start on him?

We need Carol Tregorran to come back. She'd see him for what he is, and poison him with one of her pagan potions.
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Old 14-02-2016, 18:56
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We need Carol Tregorran to come back. She'd see him for what he is, and poison him with one of her pagan potions.
I hadn't noticed until you mentioned her, but where has she gone?
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Old 14-02-2016, 19:30
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I hadn't noticed until you mentioned her, but where has she gone?
Jill mentioned that Carol was off visiting someone - her daughter maybe. I expect Eleanor Bron is in a play or something.

Nice to hear Kenton and Jolene all happy and loved up tonight. I like Wayne so I'm glad he'll be around for a bit longer too.

Wonder how Rob and Helen spent Valentine's night. I hope he cooked her something really special and wouldn't let her lift a finger all evening

Eddie was very annoying when he arranged for those cows to graze at Grange Farm. I hope it doesn't ruin things with Oliver for Ed
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Old 14-02-2016, 19:38
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He's getting so much nastier that I can't see how they can keep it going for months. He'd have half of Borsetshire under his thumb by Christmas!

His speech about obedience to Henwy made my blood run cold. Surely to god he's not going to start on him?

We need Carol Tregorran to come back. She'd see him for what he is, and poison him with one of her pagan potions.
It's his treatment of Henry that's worrying me.
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Old 14-02-2016, 19:47
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It's his treatment of Henry that's worrying me.
I think if he lets Helen see that he's treating Henry horribly that might be the catalyst she needs to break away from him. The trouble is she might think she's alone - he's managed to alienate Ian from her, is keeping her away from her family, who she knows thinks he's god's gift to the world, and now she can't even contact Kirsty as he's deleted her phone number from her phone.
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