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Old 06-03-2016, 15:29
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Whether Helen made a will when she had Henry is not relevant as Helen's marriage to Rob would automatically revoke any previous will she made.
Yes, I know, and as I say I'm not suggesting it's where they're going, just that if they wanted to spin it out longer - someone a way back suggested a Christmas resolution, I think - the introduction of a will made after the marriage, when she did still have a bit of autonomy, right up until she tried to have a day out with Kirsty, so it's not beyond possibility, favouring Henry would give them more mileage. But again, I don't think they'll keep it going long enough to need any more complications. Personally I doubt they'll kill Helen off. Rob's more likely to be offed imo.

It's a storyline that really lends itself to speculation, wild or otherwise, which offers a bit of light relief from the bleak storyline and makes a nice change from most of them, where they signal what's coming with all the subtlety of a brick through a window.
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Old 06-03-2016, 15:48
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I must agree cika, they don't need much more complexity in there and I doubt given just how incredibly difficult this is and how much more carefully the developments have been threaded through than the usual Archers storylines, they won't kill Helen. The nation would be up in arms! They have already gone pretty far by asking us to be emotionally involved and party to such abuse, ending it with a murder would be a huge step they can't step-back from.

Saying that, something terrible tells me it's gonna be Helen defending herself and ending-up in-trouble. Shall we start the Free the Ambridge One campaign already? Rob ruining her life from beyond the grave....
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Old 06-03-2016, 15:54
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If they can kill Nigel then I am sure they can kill Helen.
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Old 06-03-2016, 16:14
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But with Nigel there wasn't the same drip-drip build-up of dread and doom, the torment we have been privy to. I just don't see them doing this. Nigel was a terrible accident, with Helen, it's a systematic program of infantilising and taking apart somebody's life and mind. To then kill Helen at the end of it I think would be too much and allow Rob too much triumph without sufficient comeuppance at the end when we finally come out the other end. Additionally, the end of this storyline is likely to be difficult enough as a listen and for the characters, that Helen's death I think would be too much on that count as well.
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Old 06-03-2016, 16:58
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It would be beyond awful for Pat and Tony to lose another child. Pat had a breakdown last time, and Tony blamed himself, and it was too grim for words.
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Old 06-03-2016, 17:04
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I don't think there will be murder or manslaughter as I'm sure the bosses have said that The Archers is "the everyday story of country folk" and that wouldn't appropriate.

I think tonight's episode is going to be good.
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Old 06-03-2016, 19:10
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Gawd, Ursula! I thought she was in cahoots with Rob, but she's got it in for Helen entirely on her own account.
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Old 06-03-2016, 19:28
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Gawd, Ursula! I thought she was in cahoots with Rob, but she's got it in for Helen entirely on her own account.
I switched off when she started on about boarding school. Old witch.
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Old 06-03-2016, 19:34
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She made it quite clear she preferred Jess to Helen, which possibly explains the no show at the dinner party a while back.

Strange that she implied Pat and Tony were useless as grandparents, though. I assume Rob has said that to her, but I can't remember it being on air.
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Old 07-03-2016, 14:40
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He's her husband so he would get whatever was Helen's so at least Peggy's money, the House and whatever is Helen's share in the business. He is also quite manipulative so could easily worm his way into taking over the shop totally which he is already running by him self more or less.

He must have an aim in mind surely.

ETA However you are right it's not going to happen. No way will The Archers go that far.
Well he seems to have already spent most of the money from Peggy and what house does Helen own?
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Old 07-03-2016, 20:44
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The film Rosemary's Baby comes to mind.
Ursula's voice is familiar - who is the actress?
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Old 07-03-2016, 21:12
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The film Rosemary's Baby comes to mind
I said that months ago.
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Old 07-03-2016, 21:42
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Ursula's voice is familiar - who is the actress?
Her name is Carolyn Jones, but the only actress whose name comes up on google is this one Obviously not the same actress
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Old 07-03-2016, 22:11
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The film Rosemary's Baby comes to mind.
Ursula's voice is familiar - who is the actress?
Her name is Carolyn Jones, but the only actress whose name comes up on google is this one Obviously not the same actress
I think it is this Carolyn Jones who was in Crossroads for a number of years, character called Sharon Metcalfe according to imdb

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0427701/
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Old 08-03-2016, 01:19
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So, Henry is being shipped of to boarding school (which will make splicing Rob/Helen scenes slightly more bearable). No need for Pat and Tony to get too close now.
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Old 08-03-2016, 20:46
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So, Henry is being shipped of to boarding school (which will make splicing Rob/Helen scenes slightly more bearable). No need for Pat and Tony to get too close now.
I hate the way this is going, sending a five year old to boarding school . What are the producers thinking of? Totally unnecessary .i dread to think what the final outcome will be.Isuppose Helen or the baby will die and cruel Robwill do what he likes with Henry.
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Old 08-03-2016, 20:58
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It's like a weird three way power struggle between Helen, Rob and Ursula. Ursula seems to be doing a good job of manipulating Rob just now. If Rob ends up killing anyone I reckon it could be his mother. That would be quite a neat solution - two horrible Titcheners got rid of and Helen and her two kids safe. Personally I wouldn't mind if Helen got caught in the crossfire tbh, (but only if she's had the baby) - it'd just be too awful for Pat, Tony and Henry though
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Old 08-03-2016, 21:37
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I hate the way this is going, sending a five year old to boarding school . What are the producers thinking of? Totally unnecessary .i dread to think what the final outcome will be.Isuppose Helen or the baby will die and cruel Robwill do what he likes with Henry.
Wasn't Ruari sent to boarding school at that age?
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Old 08-03-2016, 21:39
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So what happened with dinner tonight? Did Ursula deliberately tell Helen the wrong time for it to be in the oven so that it would burn, or did Rob manage to somehow alter the timer?
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Old 09-03-2016, 02:24
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So what happened with dinner tonight? Did Ursula deliberately tell Helen the wrong time for it to be in the oven so that it would burn, or did Rob manage to somehow alter the timer?

Ursula's instructions for the toad in the hole didn't strike me as bound to lead to burnt offerings. I think Rob altered the timer, as part of his Gaslight-style trickery to make her think she's going mad. I wouldn't have put it past him to add extra hot water to Henry's bath the other night, either.

When Pat and Tony get to hear about the boarding school plan, they're going to be livid. Well, Pat will. That could be the catalyst for them stepping in.
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Old 09-03-2016, 02:27
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I hate the way this is going, sending a five year old to boarding school .
My ex used to work at a prep school where they had 5 year olds boarding from Monday-Friday, so their parents could continue with their high-powered and demanding jobs. I think it's an awful notion, keeping such a young child away from their family for such a long time.
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Old 09-03-2016, 07:28
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Ursula's instructions for the toad in the hole didn't strike me as bound to lead to burnt offerings. I think Rob altered the timer, as part of his Gaslight-style trickery to make her think she's going mad. I wouldn't have put it past him to add extra hot water to Henry's bath the other night, either.
I think Rob must have altered it too. 38 minutes isn't long enough for something to burn. Having said that a precise 38 minutes is an odd time to cook something, and she was so specific about it too. I wonder if Ursula didn't wait until Helen had left the kitchen, then sneaked back in to alter the time - she was late back from the shops after all, so probably didn't go there when she said she did.

As for the hot water, I wouldn't put it past the evil s0d either

When Pat and Tony get to hear about the boarding school plan, they're going to be livid. Well, Pat will. That could be the catalyst for them stepping in.
The way Pat has altered I wouldn't put it past her to say "well if Rob thinks it's the best thing for Henry who are we to argue. After all the sun does shine out of Rob's backside".
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Old 09-03-2016, 09:21
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I don't think there will be murder or manslaughter as I'm sure the bosses have said that The Archers is "the everyday story of country folk" and that wouldn't appropriate.

I think tonight's episode is going to be good.
These days TA is defined as "a contemporary drama in a rural setting" rather than "an everyday story of country folk". Nothing's out of scope anymore.
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Old 09-03-2016, 23:08
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I'm finding the storyline more amusing now that I've stopped caring about it.

The way Rob said "now if you'll excuse me, I have to go check on my mother" to Helen at the end of last night's episode made me laugh out loud. He said it so dramatically, as though she was terribly ill.
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Old 10-03-2016, 09:23
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I'm finding the storyline more amusing now that I've stopped caring about it.

The way Rob said "now if you'll excuse me, I have to go check on my mother" to Helen at the end of last night's episode made me laugh out loud. He said it so dramatically, as though she was terribly ill.
Indeed .... it rather put me in mind of an amateur dramatic presentation of An Inspector Calls ..
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