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Old 11-04-2016, 22:03
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I was actually swearing at her, you could almost see that self-righteous smirk on her face as she could not wait to add her two pennyworth to the situation.
Definitely an industrial size tube of superglue is needed to keep her big gob shut
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Old 11-04-2016, 22:50
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Oh you nerd! Where can I get one?
I am rather aren't I? I hadn't realised until I started joining in this thread that I sem to absorb everything like a sponge. IT sems to be my specialist subject. Anyway my map was a pull ouit from a book for Archer nerds my sister gave me as a joke one Christmas. However ther is a full OS style map of the area. You can get it from Amazon/E bay and maybe other places.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/33050...13=80&ff14=122
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Old 11-04-2016, 22:57
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Old 12-04-2016, 07:15
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I am rather aren't I? I hadn't realised until I started joining in this thread that I sem to absorb everything like a sponge. IT sems to be my specialist subject. Anyway my map was a pull ouit from a book for Archer nerds my sister gave me as a joke one Christmas. However ther is a full OS style map of the area. You can get it from Amazon/E bay and maybe other places.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/33050...13=80&ff14=122
Thanks both of you. I'm going to have to get at least one of those. I like the OS map. I love maps, and I love the idea of a real OS map for Borsetshire

ETA I've just ordered the OS one. I'm thinking of getting the Archers Addicts one too

I've also set the BBC one as my desktop background . . .
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:48
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Thanks both of you. I'm going to have to get at least one of those. I like the OS map. I love maps, and I love the idea of a real OS map for Borsetshire

ETA I've just ordered the OS one. I'm thinking of getting the Archers Addicts one too

I've also set the BBC one as my desktop background . . .
Steady on there is no need to go overboard. I would wait until map one arrives if I were you. I have a feeling that they are both the same. Come think of it it would be more of a problem if they were different.
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:52
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I think that Peggy may well have a Damascene conversion when the facts start to come out. She's very tribal in her attitudes, and this evil swine terrorising her granddaughter will be a revelation to her.

And as older listeners will know, Peggy's first marriage, to alcoholic Jack Archer, caused her considerable heartache. She may well be quite sympathetic when she finds out what Helen has endured.
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Old 12-04-2016, 11:22
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Steady on there is no need to go overboard. I would wait until map one arrives if I were you. I have a feeling that they are both the same. Come think of it it would be more of a problem if they were different.
My OS one is already on the way!

On a different note, I've always wanted a map of Nutwood I've always been a big Rupert Bear fan
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Old 12-04-2016, 15:08
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My OS one is already on the way!

On a different note, I've always wanted a map of Nutwood I've always been a big Rupert Bear fan
Don't do it.

I didn't look at the map in Lord of the Rings until I had completed the tome and it was all 'wrong' as I had the 'correct' version in my head already.

On another note.........I'm really enjoying this thread so thanks to all the posters. I'd particularly like to mention NMdum1, cika and An Thropologist for their lengthy, thought-provoking input.
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Old 12-04-2016, 16:53
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Don't do it.

I didn't look at the map in Lord of the Rings until I had completed the tome and it was all 'wrong' as I had the 'correct' version in my head already.

On another note.........I'm really enjoying this thread so thanks to all the posters. I'd particularly like to mention NMdum1, cika and An Thropologist for their lengthy, thought-provoking input.
Its a really nice thread, I thought I was the only Archers fan. I am sorry the Archers Addicts stopped.
I guess the Helen story will drag on with Trial and verdict, Then some new evidence and she will be released. But there is a long way to go before that happens.
My big fear is Rob will recover and get both children. Poor little Henry with no Mummy to care for him. It's tear jerking.
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Old 12-04-2016, 17:26
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I think that Peggy may well have a Damascene conversion when the facts start to come out. She's very tribal in her attitudes, and this evil swine terrorising her granddaughter will be a revelation to her.

And as older listeners will know, Peggy's first marriage, to alcoholic Jack Archer, caused her considerable heartache. She may well be quite sympathetic when she finds out what Helen has endured.
Yes I am thinking similalry. She didn't have it easy until Jack 2 came along. And she also seems to carry something of a burden in thinking that she is guilty of having chosen badly and fostered inherently bad genes on her offspring.
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Old 12-04-2016, 17:28
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My OS one is already on the way!

On a different note, I've always wanted a map of Nutwood I've always been a big Rupert Bear fan
Is that Nutwood on the on the city limits?
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Old 12-04-2016, 17:28
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Don't do it.

I didn't look at the map in Lord of the Rings until I had completed the tome and it was all 'wrong' as I had the 'correct' version in my head already.

On another note.........I'm really enjoying this thread so thanks to all the posters. I'd particularly like to mention NMdum1, cika and An Thropologist for their lengthy, thought-provoking input.
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Old 12-04-2016, 18:29
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Don't do it.

I didn't look at the map in Lord of the Rings until I had completed the tome and it was all 'wrong' as I had the 'correct' version in my head already.

On another note.........I'm really enjoying this thread so thanks to all the posters. I'd particularly like to mention NMdum1, cika and An Thropologist for their lengthy, thought-provoking input.
Thank you for your thanks ... I'm only a very occasional poster on DS and only on civilised threads like this one!

(I always think I have no visual imagnation and can't picture what I'm reading. And yet I knew when the film version of LoTR was 'wrong'!)
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Old 12-04-2016, 18:43
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Thank you for your thanks ... I'm only a very occasional poster on DS and only on civilised threads like this one!

(I always think I have no visual imagnation and can't picture what I'm reading. And yet I knew when the film version of LoTR was 'wrong'!)
I know what you mean. If there is a book and a film I have to do the film first. If I do the book first both are spoiled. Captain Corellis Mandolin is a favourite book but I hated the film. I read the book first and they cast it so badly.

Poldark on the other hand was one where I saw the TV series (Angharad Rees and Robn Ellis version) first and then read all the books with those images in my head. Of course the new series is intolerable!

I hate to see photos of the Archer's actors because they don't look a bit like the characters in my head.
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Old 12-04-2016, 19:04
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I know what you mean. If there is a book and a film I have to do the film first. If I do the book first both are spoiled. Captain Corellis Mandolin is a favourite book but I hated the film. I read the book first and they cast it so badly.

Poldark on the other hand was one where I saw the TV series (Angharad Rees and Robn Ellis version) first and then read all the books with those images in my head. Of course the new series is intolerable!

I hate to see photos of the Archer's actors because they don't look a bit like the characters in my head
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I do know what you mean but on this occasion Rob and Helen are exactly as I pictured them.
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Old 12-04-2016, 19:09
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Poldark on the other hand was one where I saw the TV series (Angharad Rees and Robn Ellis version) first and then read all the books with those images in my head. Of course the new series is intolerable!
I loved the original series, but I'm also really enjoying the new series. The original looks very dated now as it's a studio-based series. I read the first few books after I'd seen the original series, but have just finished reading all 12 books (and thoroughly enjoyed them). Demelza in the book has black hair, not red - it's Ross who has auburn hair. Also George is miscast in this series. He's skinny and looks like a gentleman, whereas he should be someone who looks out of place dressed as a gentleman - he should be stockier like a blacksmith.

I hate to see photos of the Archer's actors because they don't look a bit like the characters in my head.
I agree
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Old 12-04-2016, 19:16
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I hate to see photos of the Archer's actors because they don't look a bit like the characters in my head.
Ikywm. I was devastated when I first saw a pic of David, he's nothing like "my" David to look at. Joe Grundy, Robert Snell, Peggy and Jill are just as I pictured them though. As is Carol Tregoran, but that's because I recognised Eleanor Bron's voice as soon as she spoke.

In my mind's eye, Debbie Aldridge is blonde. Tamsin Greig just sounds like a blonde to me. When I first saw her on tv, I actually thought "She sounds like Debbie Aldridge, but she can't be, because Debbie's blonde".

Just shows how real the show is imo.
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Old 12-04-2016, 19:18
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Its a really nice thread,
I think so too. Getting close to 100 pages, and no fallings out or cross words, which must be something of a record for DS!
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Old 12-04-2016, 21:05
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You would think a Hazel poster would have stuck their oar in.
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Old 12-04-2016, 21:28
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Borsetshire maps – what fun!

I wasn’t too far off I don’t think, on the whole, with the mental image versus the actual person of the actors. I found the Kim Kardashian swipe particularly cruel because Louise Patikas has healthy curves and has personality and genuine interests (cheese must presumably be a bit of a passion) and I’ve always found the Kardashian dynasty very plastic and frighteningly shallow as a concept and therefore the opposite of what the man Rob pretends to be to everybody around him (and Helen’s ideal man) would actually want in a woman. It’s certainly different that say some of the period dramas I’m fond off where I saw the TV adaption before reading the book. John Thornton from North and South and Richard Armitage are one and the same to me so I have struggled even with The Hobbit series, never-mind with some of his other parts like in Spooks where he’s not plastered in make-up. And Edith Evans just IS Lady Bracknell! “A Handbag!”

I’ve only been listening for a few years, probably about six or seven months before Rob and Helen began and thus was more disturbed by the sudden change in Tony’s voice than anything else. It was jarring.

Thank you for your kind remark DiamondDoll. And interestingly theory about Peggy, I suppose we are all hoping and praying that might be true. If not a posse of village men with pitchforks and flaming torches to run Rob out of town, a group of seriously pissed off Archer family women….
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Old 12-04-2016, 21:31
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Vicky Tucker is a brassy blonde. The actress looks nothing like her.
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Old 12-04-2016, 22:42
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Borsetshire maps – what fun!

I wasn’t too far off I don’t think, on the whole, with the mental image versus the actual person of the actors. I found the Kim Kardashian swipe particularly cruel because Louise Patikas has healthy curves and has personality and genuine interests (cheese must presumably be a bit of a passion) and I’ve always found the Kardashian dynasty very plastic and frighteningly shallow as a concept and therefore the opposite of what the man Rob pretends to be to everybody around him (and Helen’s ideal man) would actually want in a woman. It’s certainly different that say some of the period dramas I’m fond off where I saw the TV adaption before reading the book. John Thornton from North and South and Richard Armitage are one and the same to me so I have struggled even with The Hobbit series, never-mind with some of his other parts like in Spooks where he’s not plastered in make-up. And Edith Evans just IS Lady Bracknell! “A Handbag!”

I’ve only been listening for a few years, probably about six or seven months before Rob and Helen began and thus was more disturbed by the sudden change in Tony’s voice than anything else. It was jarring.

Thank you for your kind remark DiamondDoll. And interestingly theory about Peggy, I suppose we are all hoping and praying that might be true. If not a posse of village men with pitchforks and flaming torches to run Rob out of town, a group of seriously pissed off Archer family women….
BIB 1 - Of course she is. Clearly Oscar had her in mind when he wrote the character, even though Edith Evans was only 6 at the time. The man had amazing foresight.

BIB2. In the case of Ambridge its more likely to be a posse of village women.
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Old 13-04-2016, 13:43
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On this map it shows the Police House. Who lives there, because Harrison moved into a house with Fallon didn't he move into the flat above the shop with Fallon?
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Old 13-04-2016, 16:49
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On this map it shows the Police House. Who lives there, because Harrison moved into a house with Fallon didn't he move into the flat above the shop with Fallon?
Christine Barford lived there, but couldn't bear to move back after the flood and moved in with Peggy at The Lodge.

I thought Harrison and Fallon moved in after that, but if they're in the flat above the shop, I have no idea who's there now.
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Old 13-04-2016, 17:52
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Having got fed up listening to Radio 2 on my car journey to work I switched over to Radio 4. I work shift work so get to listen to a variety of programmes and when on nights have picked up the odd episode of The Archers. With the recent Helen/Rob storyline I have been getting more hooked and will probably start listening regularly (probably the on-line omnibus). I was wondering if there is anywhere on-line where I can read up on who is who and current/recent storylines. There is some info on Wikipedia but it very limited.
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