No, but they could end up convicting her and giving her a long prison sentence.

I think if it were Robert, Richard or Neil most would be sympathetic.

Alistair. Richard Locke could buy her and they could leave Ambridge, taking Dan the Man with them.



I'm presuming, by the way, that the longer term plan is for New Tom and Kirsty to get back together, as he's the only member of the family who backs Helen without question and believes Rob was abusing her, which is bound to please Kirsty and probably throw them together more.

Yes strange that unlike her parents and grandmnother he seems to have a practical head on his shoulders and unconditional love in his heart. That trip to Canada did him good, "Old Tom" was too focussed on business to see poast the nose on his face.

Yes quite. Sean O'Connor did a real job of work there, not only giving Tom's character a nasty cowardly exit but also slating the actor (Tom Graham) in the media by saying incredibly snotty things like "There is an issue with actors recruited not from drama school but from local community drama groups; I have brought in actors that have been trained and know what they are doing."

Oh really, Sean? Well I think 17 years in the role kind of meant Tom Graham knew what he was doing, you ghastly little haemorrhoid.
Good job he's sodding off to his cheap TV soap where he belongs... and I hope somewhere down the line, someone does a hatchet job on him too.

Absolutely. I am not finding these " drama school actors" any great shakes in any case. I think the drama school actors are very bland and all sound the same. I can't tell Tom and the Fairbrother boys apart except by the dialogue and can only differentiate PIp because she is female; but equally bland.

My pet theory about Old Tom is that knowing Tom so well (as you say after 17 years he damned well was Tom Archer) , the actor objected to the personality transplant he (and his family) were being forced to endure and TPTB wanted him out for rocking the boat.

I think you should stop beating about the bush and tell us what you really think of him.


I'm glad I'm not the only one. I remember a while ago hearing a skit of The Archers on something I've now forgotten the name of, where every male character was called something like 'different indistinguishable male actor with middle class accent'. Their idea of gong for a bit of variety outside of the Mummerset yokels at the moment seems to be the introduction of 'I wish I'd known my dad' Johnny, Pip's new squeeze and PC Plod.

I can't - I'm notoriously reserved and forgiving



Very true. Harrison is quite dreamy though .... Thinking of the uniform alone is pretty swoon.

And he's back, and sounding very malevolent when speaking to his mother, predictably loving when speaking to Henry, and very off-hand to Pat.

Ursula too has done a complete about-face and I so wish Pat would grow a pair. She says she believes in Helen, then for goodness sake woman, show it!

The Pat who has always been pretty feisty, outspoken and militant? That Pat? Where is that Pat? Did the fairies take her and replace her with a changling?

Yes! Sean O'Connor is so annoying. I thought Tom Graham did a great job playing Tom and I never once thought he was an unconvincing actor. It was clear that it upset the actor because he said so on social media and even went to some of the fan boards and posted his opinions.

It just seemed so incredibly disloyal to an actor who had played the character for such a long time. The only time I've ever known characters to be recast is when the actor themselves wants to leave. Plus he axed Helen Monk, who's since gone on to star in 'Raise By Wolves', so she hasn't done too badly for herself.

Plus the way he's been on TV shows recently preening himself and crowing about how amazing his storyline is and how much help it's giving women all over the country. I wouldn't mind if I actually believed he devised this storyline for any other reason than the fact he thought it would get attention and viewers.

I'll be glad to see the back of him, but I suppose his replacement will probably just be a clone of him anyway. He/she won't want to mess with the formula too much and be seen as destroying the "good" work O'Connor has done.

Don't forget that New Tom is played by William Troughton, the actual son of David Troughton who plays Tony. So O'Connor is an awful toady to boot.

The nepotism there was pretty staggering.

And are son and grandson of Dr Who. (irrelevant though! )

So annoyed that Rob's stoma hasn't exploded all over Ursula yet.

Vile old bitch.

btw Love the iplayer description of last night's episode - 'Tony galvanizes Pat'... which sounds like he's weather-proofed her for farmyard use!

LOL Hot dip or electro?

They're properly pulling things back to stability now aren't they!

We've a Grundy calamity in Lynda's giardino, and we've the Archers all down the mansion celebrating how fantastic it is to be an Archer!

Rob - you lying toad

The revolting lying snake.

And what the hell is this outlandish bullshit about Helen and Kirsty being lesbians?

Dangerous psycho.

He almost sounded as though he believed the shite he was spouting. He really is an evil sod.

It seems very wrong to me that he is allowed to see Henry and Helen isn't. If Henry is a witness, it's important that Rob doesn't have an opportunity to coach him.

Has Henry been interviewed by the police yet?

Pretty soon after the event Henry had an 'interview' with a child expert who reported back that Henry had said that Helen had stabbed Rob with the knife. Later, they charged Helen.

Yes Henry has been interviewed and he became a witness for the prosecution based on what he told them. I agree re Rob being able to see Henry I really didn't think that would be allowed either though I suppose the Defense don't have the power or ability to disallow it and I guess the Prosecution doesn't care.

[quote=LakieLady;82200225]He almost sounded as though he believed the shite he was spouting. He really is an evil sod.

It seems very wrong to me that he is allowed to see Henry and Helen isn't. If Henry is a witness, it's important that Rob doesn't have an opportunity to coach him.

Has Henry been interviewed by the police yet?[/QUOTE

I got the impression he knew damn well what he was saying wasn't true. Those tears sounded so fake.

Rob sounded desperate. After the character assassination he was still trying to heap it on "Did I tell you she was on anti-depressants?"

Did the officer swallow it all or was she seeing through it a little?
The litany of damnation seemed very rehearsed.

To me an honest victim would want to relate what happened (as the officer kept asking) rather than rather obviously denigrating the attacker.

Still waiting for the flatulent putrid colostomy bag to explode in his face

I thought at first that she believed everything he said, especially when she said "you're not the first, and you won't be the last". Thinking about this comment it could be taken another way - ie that he's not the first abuser who's got his comeuppance. Maybe I'm just being too hopeful though. I think with their experience they get to know when someone is lying.