[johnnybgoode83]

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18350949

Apple has sought to disrupt the US launch of Samsung Electronic's flagship smartphone by asking a court to ban the product from sale temporarily.

The iPhone-maker claimed the Galaxy S3 infringed at least two of its patents based on its analysis of a model bought in the UK.

Do we really need another reason to stay away from Apple?

[Pootmatoot]

Apple, famous for demanding Samsung does not make a tablet that is "rectangular, flat, or has rounded corners, or has a black screen".

They are a bunch of fruit cakes, well aware they they are peaking (for a second time).

[johnnybgoode83]

Originally Posted by Pootmatoot

Apple, famous for demanding Samsung does not make a tablet that is "rectangular, flat, or has rounded corners, or has a black screen".

They are a bunch of fruit cakes, well aware they they are peaking (for a second time).

It was good to see Samsung fight back though. They donated $500000 to the Linux Foundation to help it compete with iOS.

[MojoMaster]

Conclusive proof that the iPhone 5 will have nothing new to bring to the party! lol

Samsung GSG3 wins!

[Patrick_Shaplan]

Originally Posted by MojoMaster

Conclusive proof that the iPhone 5 will have nothing new to bring to the party! lol

Samsung GSG3 wins!

in your dreams

[wavejockglw]

Originally Posted by MojoMaster

Conclusive proof that the iPhone 5 will have nothing new to bring to the party! lol

Samsung GSG3 wins!

I think you are right and Samsung as a designer, manufacturer and distibuter holds all the cards.

Apple have to rely on other to do everything other than design and that has competition implications.

Customers have been ripped off by Apple for basic things like memory on devices, connectivity and the deliberate policy of making it difficult to replace things like batteries which Apple charge ludicrous prices to change (£64 for an iPhone battery compared with a genuine Samsung Galaxy battery which is user chaneable for £10).

Apple has had their time in the sun.... they did some good stuff but they have now resorte to milking customers for all they can and attempting to stop other companies from trying to compete.

[darkjedimaster]

Originally Posted by Patrick_Shaplan

in your dreams

Samsung had 9 million pre-orders for the S3

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/mobi...on-pre-orders/

Even Apple admit that they are expecting a poor Q3, a report that has cost them in shares.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/mobi...-q3-for-apple/

Apple are now taking drastic childish measures to stop competition from beating them, in the way of calling on lame patient infringements to try & stop the likes of HTC & the S3 being sold in the states.

Apple will always have their fanboys who will buy the product which has dated technology in, just for the sake of it having the Apple logo on. Benchmark results show that the S3 is miles ahead of the 4S & Apple are going to need to pull something massive from their hat, if they are going to get past the sales of the S3.

It will be interesting to see the total number of sales of the S3 by the time the Iphone 5 gets released.

[Stiggles]

Originally Posted by Patrick_Shaplan

in your dreams

Got anything useful to counter the argument instead of a response a primary school kid would give?

[IvanIV]

Originally Posted by MojoMaster

Conclusive proof that the iPhone 5 will have nothing new to bring to the party! lol

Samsung GSG3 wins!

Siri will have a phone sex feature, that's something SG3 doesn't have

[swordman]

Originally Posted by IvanIV

Siri will have a phone sex feature, that's something SG3 doesn't have

you shouldn't joke about that you will have some fanboys getting a chubby at the thought.

[AntiDote]

We don't know the full details behind this but *if* Samsung did infringe 2 of Apple's patents then I don't see what the issue is - Apple are only doing what any other company would be doing in its place.

[TKDFan]

Originally Posted by AntiDote

We don't know the full details behind this but *if* Samsung did infringe 2 of Apple's patents then I don't see what the issue is - Apple are only doing what any other company would be doing in its place.

The problem is that Apple seem to throw lawsuits around like sweets...

[AntiDote]

Originally Posted by TKDFan

The problem is that Apple seem to throw lawsuits around like sweets...

Again playing Devil's Advocate here, if those lawsuits are justified what's wrong with Apple defending their product against patent infringement?

Don't get me wrong, yes I have an iPhone but I'm not a fanboy, I'm not blind to its faults but it seems like people might be jumping on Apple here purely because it's Apple.

[ACU]

Originally Posted by AntiDote

Again playing Devil's Advocate here, if those lawsuits are justified what's wrong with Apple defending their product against patent infringement?

Don't get me wrong, yes I have an iPhone but I'm not a fanboy, I'm not blind to its faults but it seems like people might be jumping on Apple here purely because it's Apple.

Apple are using lawsuits to delay the release of these phone in the US market. They know they wont win. They recently delayed the One X from going to market, with a lawsuit. In the end is was found the One X did not infringe any patents, and was thus allowed to be sold in the US.

Since the iphone5 is released way after the OneX, S3 and a couple of other quad-core android phones, they are trying to delay the other phones going to the market. This in my view is an abuse of the system.

[AntiDote]

Originally Posted by ACU

Apple are using lawsuits to delay the release of these phone in the US market. They know they wont win.

With respect, how can you say that when we don't know the full details of the case?

[ACU]

Originally Posted by AntiDote

With respect, how can you say that when we don't know the full details of the case?

I think we know enough. It is after all my opinion. If someone wants to offer an alternative view, I am more than happy to listen.

[AntiDote]

Originally Posted by ACU

I think we know enough. It is after all my opinion. If someone wants to offer an alternative view, I am more than happy to listen.

It just seems your point is based on being anti-Apple. I've played Devil's Advocate here. If Apple's claims are genuine, what's wrong with a company defending its intellectual property and patents?

[alanwarwic]

Lets face it, if everyone behaved like Apple the iPhone and iPad might not have been invented.


edit - I've said many a time that most of the publicised litigation's are publicity seeking delaying tactics and fairly spurious.

"the judge said he was tired of "frivolous filings by Apple"
No real surprise that a Judge thinks the same.
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._motorola.html

The fact that Apple continually uses splatter gun tactics really shows what nonsense most of their litigation cases are.

[paulbrock]

Originally Posted by AntiDote

Again playing Devil's Advocate here, if those lawsuits are justified what's wrong with Apple defending their product against patent infringement?

because time and again the details of those patent cases have been shown to be spurious. Nonsense like "its black and its rectangular" isn't patent infringement.

I have no reason to believe this case will be any different; perhaps its all a PR exercise with the aim of making people think that Apple has a multiude of patents and is uber-innovative.

The truth is quite different
http://cdn.redmondpie.com/wp-content...08/patent1.jpg

[AntiDote]

Originally Posted by paulbrock

Nonsense like "its black and its rectangular" isn't patent infringement.

Where does it say that?

[paulbrock]

Originally Posted by AntiDote

Where does it say that?

I lose track of which injunction is which, there are so many Think that accusation was levelled against the Galaxy S2.

http://www.schwimmerlegal.com/2011/04/4820.html

on the physical design:

1. a rectangular product shape with all four corners uniformly rounded;
2. the front surface of the product dominated by a screen surface with black borders;
3. as to the iPhone and iPod touch products, substantial black borders above and below the screen having roughly equal width and narrower black borders on either side of the screen having roughly equal width;
4. as to the iPad product, substantial black borders on all sides being roughly equal in width;
5. a metallic surround framing the perimeter of the top surface;

Basically like every touch screen phone since the LG prada

[Orri]

Originally Posted by ACU

Since the iphone5 is released way after the OneX, S3 and a couple of other quad-core android phones, they are trying to delay the other phones going to the market. This in my view is an abuse of the system.

There might be provision in US law to counter sue for loss of income if it can be shown that Apple know their cases are groundless and are aimed at frustrating competition.

[AntiDote]

Originally Posted by paulbrock

I lose track of which injunction is which, there are so many Think that accusation was levelled against the Galaxy S2.

OK but I'm talking about this instance. It seems that people are being against Apple 'because it's Apple', regardless of whether there might be substance in their claims.

If people are openly anti-Apple then I'm not judging them, there's nothing wrong with being anti-anyone really. But if it's purely bias then I'd be interested in their response should the case be ruled in Apple's favour.

[darkjedimaster]

Here is Apple's case against the Nexus & the S3.

http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/06/a...ction.html?m=1

Seems ridiculous imho as Apple themselves have admitted in the past to stealing other companies ideas, so it is more of a case of do as I say, don't do as I do. Hopefully the Judge will make the right decision and throw this case out & allow the sale of the S3 to continue.

Apple need to concentrate on making devices with up to date technology, rather than crying like little bitches every time something similar to their device is on the device of a competitor company.

[IvanIV]

Originally Posted by paulbrock

I lose track of which injunction is which, there are so many Think that accusation was levelled against the Galaxy S2.

http://www.schwimmerlegal.com/2011/04/4820.html

on the physical design:


Basically like every touch screen phone since the LG prada

They will try to patent next that only Apple employees are allowed to celebrate New Year's Day on January 1st What they are doing with these so called patents is bullying, simple as that.