[CherylFan]

Originally Posted by BomoLad

Is she married? If not I'd like to direct her wedding video and just as the vows are being announced, cut to someone outside dressed in drag with shilling an 'I Love Celebrities' tea-towel and interview them for fifteen minutes. If she complains I'll tweet of her bullying cowardice.

LOL!

She`s ok in the right kind of environment - ie a Celebrity Juice type light entertainment youth show. Right out of her depth in the Jubilee context however, but then so were Matt Baker, Sophie Raworth, John Sargeant, etc.

[Mr Jazzman]

I think she should make a public apology for undermining the term 'bullying'.

Thousands of people across the country are badly affected by it yet she seems to be using it to defend her poor presenting skills.

[angelafisher]

Originally Posted by BomoLad

Is she married? If not I'd like to direct her wedding video and just as the vows are being announced, cut to someone outside dressed in drag with shilling an 'I Love Celebrities' tea-towel and interview them for fifteen minutes. If she complains I'll tweet of her bullying cowardice.

Good point!

[Chihiro94]

In her own words "opinions are one thing, outright bullying is another. VERY different" True, and critcism =/= bullying. I never quite get why celebs are always so quick to say "you don't know how hard I worked, hard work = instant praise". It's like if I revised three weeks straight or something for an exam, got all the answers wrong, but the examiner turned round and said you tried so I'll give you full marks regardless. It just doesn't work like that. Yes it's commendable, but when you put yourself up in the public arena, with a subjective medium, you have to be able to take all different kinds of criticism, and preferably take it on board and improve, because if you dont't people will just look elsewhere.

I think Fearne works well on celebrity/childrens programs, and it wasn't her fault she was picked when clearly she wasn't right for it, but she could put her hands and admit she wasn't right for the job, which would be much better than undermiming such an important issue. Also, I'm not sure how much control she had over the interview, but if your getting paid that much, would it really kill you to spend an evening on wiki at least looking up the topic your going to present?

[spooked]

This girl has a serious misconception of what the word "bully" actually means.

[gulliverfoyle]

Originally Posted by Chihiro94

In her own words "opinions are one thing, outright bullying is another. VERY different" True, and critcism =/= bullying. I never quite get why celebs are always so quick to say "you don't know how hard I worked, hard work = instant praise". It's like if I revised three weeks straight or something for an exam, got all the answers wrong, but the examiner turned round and said you tried so I'll give you full marks regardless. It just doesn't work like that. Yes it's commendable, but when you put yourself up in the public arena, with a subjective medium, you have to be able to take all different kinds of criticism, and preferably take it on board and improve, because if you dont't people will just look elsewhere.

I think Fearne works well on celebrity/childrens programs, and it wasn't her fault she was picked when clearly she wasn't right for it, but she could put her hands and admit she wasn't right for the job, which would be much better than undermiming such an important issue. Also, I'm not sure how much control she had over the interview, but if your getting paid that much, would it really kill you to spend an evening on wiki at least looking up the topic your going to present?

I think this is a wider issue now in society

it seems there are no losers/everyone gets a gold star

if you even dream of criticize anyone then there tissue thin ego will collapse and they will be "depressed" because of there "low self esteem"

[aisey]

It just shows what a massive ego she has. She's happy to accept awards for trash like Celebrity Juice, but falls apart at some perfectly reasonable criticism. She seems to think she's above it.

[fredster]

Originally Posted by Radiomaniac

She can call me a bully all day long if she wants, but she was rubbish on the Jubilee event and on most things I've ever seen her on/in.

Do you think she knows what being a bully means?

[Sloopy]

Originally Posted by CherylFan

LOL!

She`s ok in the right kind of environment - ie a Celebrity Juice type light entertainment youth show. Right out of her depth in the Jubilee context however, but then so were Matt Baker, Sophie Raworth, John Sargeant, etc.

I think the BBC were trying to appeal to the 'yoof' market and hit the wrong note completely. There will generally be limited interest from this age group, so to rely heavily on this demographic by wheeling out former childrens' presenters and sports commentators was always a risk.

Whose bright idea was it to think that Fearne Cotton examining 'royal' sick bags would be an appropriate way to mark the Diamond Jubilee coverage??!!

[MJS]

[quote]

Originally Posted by Sloopy

I think the BBC were trying to appeal to the 'yoof' market and hit the wrong note completely. There will generally be limited interest from this age group, so to rely heavily on this demographic by wheeling out former childrens' presenters and sports commentators was always a risk.

Whose bright idea was it to think that Fearne Cotton examining 'royal' sick bags would be an appropriate way to mark the Diamond Jubilee coverage??!![/QUOTE]

Well whoever's idea it was he/she/it should be taken to the Tower and shot, or better still asked to resign. But then we the licence payers would probably have to pay out for a whacking great golden handshake.

[Misty08]

Just looked at her Twitter feed, and all I can see is people sucking up to her and telling her to ignore the nasty, jealous haters!
"Big bullies" indeed - what kind of expression is that from a 31 year old? I would certainly say that it`s rude to tweet a celeb directly and tell them they are rubbish, but it can`t be bullying because they are the ones with the money and fame. All of this does smack rather of "how dare the plebs criticise me?!".

[Sloopy]

She behaves more like 21 than 31.

Twitter can be an unpleasant place but I can't see how she is being 'bullied' here.

None of us are chained to the computer screen. We have the option to step away at any time. I wonder why people feel the need to play out all their personal dramas in full view of the public via Twitter these days.

Seems to be a slight vanity issue creeping in - they want to be validated for being 'brilliant' all the time.

If you're in the heat of the moment it's probably better not to ignite the touchpaper on Twitter because it tends to just run and run.

[Jon Ross]

I love my job and wouldn't be doing it if I wasn't any good at it

She might be good at her job (ie. presenting Radio 1 - which I don't listen to - and various other tacky TV shows I avoid) but the kind of programmes she presents don't require exceptional talent or knowledge. She was clearly way out of her depth presenting Jubilee coverage. It was an embarrassment. The BBC got it badly wrong.

I still fancy her a bit though. Is that so wrong?

[Lilaeth]

I just want to know who was the idiot that wittered on about Nelson's hats at Waterloo - it wasn't FC was it???

[FingersAndToes]

Just telling her she was rubbish is not constructive criticism. Tell her what she did wrong in your opinion, with more words than you were rubbish, and it would be a fair point.
most online criticism does borderline bullying because of the way the posts/tweets/messages are worded.

[Creamtea]

The trouble with Twitter though is that there aren't enough characters available in a tweet, to explain to her constructively, just how bad a presenter she is.

[Jon Ross]

Originally Posted by FingersAndToes

Just telling her she was rubbish is not constructive criticism. Tell her what she did wrong in your opinion, with more words than you were rubbish, and it would be a fair point.
most online criticism does borderline bullying because of the way the posts/tweets/messages are worded.

Fearne is very pretty but a very lightweight presenter. She can't help that, it's just the way she is. A lot of people like the kind of shows she does. But she was clearly the wrong choice for Jubilee coverage. The sick bag stuff was in poor taste too.

However, directing criticism at her is clearly the wrong choice. Some foolish BBC producer took her away from Radio 1 and thought she'd make Jubilee coverage "cool" and "down with the kids". That person is to blame, and Fearne should go back to Radio 1, where she's apparently quite popular.

She can still marry me though.

[AoibheannRose]

This is more in reply to the posts on this thread making negative personal comments about her than those talking about the actual Jubilee coverage in question (as I didn't see it). I've already said that I'm no fan of Fearne's radio work or most of her tv work, but she comes across to me as being a nice person who I'm sure just did what she was told to do and wasn't the person who came up with the 'sickbag idea' or chose the people she interviewed.

I don't follow her on Twitter, but just searched for her name to see exactly what kind of comments she was getting and there are a lot of ridiculously nasty ones. I also saw these two tweets from people who have actually worked with her. I know the first guy is a warm-up man who works with Ant and Dec amongst others as they tweet each other, and from looking at her profile I see that the second is a magazine editor.


8 Jun Ian Royce Ian Royce ‏@officialroycey

Soap Box.... Every time I have worked with @Fearnecotton I have found her to be professional, kind & funny but above all real! So rare!

Ian Royce ‏@officialroycey

Really pisses me off that @Fearnecotton is portrayed as something that should belong to another celebrity! Yes, not gone unnoticed!
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Jo Elvin ‏@jo_elvin

Yep @officialroycey: Every time I've worked with @Fearnecotton I've found her to be professional, kind, funny but above all real! So rare!”

I can quite believe that her Jubilee presenting coverage did make for terrible telly, but I can also understand why she's feeling the way she is after coming in from so much (to me) unnecessary personal criticism.

[Misty08]

Originally Posted by AoibheannRose

This is more in reply to the posts on this thread making negative personal comments about her than those talking about the actual Jubilee coverage in question (as I didn't see it). I've already said that I'm no fan of Fearne's radio work or most of her tv work, but she comes across to me as being a nice person who I'm sure just did what she was told to do and wasn't the person who came up with the 'sickbag idea' or chose the people she interviewed.

I don't follow her on Twitter, but just searched for her name to see exactly what kind of comments she was getting and there are a lot of ridiculously nasty ones. I also saw these two tweets from people who have actually worked with her. I know the first guy is a warm-up man who works with Ant and Dec amongst others as they tweet each other, and from looking at her profile I see that the second is a magazine editor.


8 Jun Ian Royce Ian Royce ‏@officialroycey

Soap Box.... Every time I have worked with @Fearnecotton I have found her to be professional, kind & funny but above all real! So rare!

Ian Royce ‏@officialroycey

Really pisses me off that @Fearnecotton is portrayed as something that should belong to another celebrity! Yes, not gone unnoticed!
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Jo Elvin ‏@jo_elvin

Yep @officialroycey: Every time I've worked with @Fearnecotton I've found her to be professional, kind, funny but above all real! So rare!”

I can quite believe that her Jubilee presenting coverage did make for terrible telly, but I can also understand why she's feeling the way she is after coming in from so much (to me) unnecessary personal criticism.

You do make some good points.
But all celebs on Twitter get personal criticism and insults. It`s not right, but they do need to realise before they open an account that it will give the great unwashed general public direct access to them; alot of them don`t love tham; and alot will take the opportunity to tall them so. All they can do is block those people and move on, otherwise they are really not going to be able to cope.

[Chrisholland]

I get the impression ferne is actually a really nice girl. She's done well for herself, has a talent and is bloomin gorgeous.

That said, if your being paid to provide a service the service you provide is open for criticism. This is perfectly acceptable. She was a little out of depth here and there and maybe too 'yoof' at times but I totally understand why she was used. She's actually pretty good at padding.

I think the mistake she's made here is responding, a bit like Caroline flack did about that one direction chappy. People feed off this kind of thing. Twitter is it's own enemy sometimes and there are indeed some vile vile people on there but I don't agree that this is a case of bullying at all.

[Martin Phillp]

If Fearne Cotton was presenting BBC Three commentary of the Jubilee, she'd be bang on target. But sadly, she's not this broad range presenter who can appeal to all demographics, hence why her pres didn't work last weekend.

No doubt if she's presenting programmes targeted at the under 35's for ITV2/BBC Three, she'd be fine.

[i4u]

To make out she was a poor little presenter who was bullied into working on the Jubilee and forced to conduct the interviews the way she did is a joke.

It would have gone through her agent and she would have been consulted she must have thought she was suitable it was her decision.

She had a table full of memorbillia and it was her who choice to focus on the sick bag, if she had been instructed and disagreed, with her 19 years of experience she would know the producer could do nothing if she skipped the item.

How come in her professional opinion could she not it was the wrong thing to do, having had the Queen pass by just yards away.

Could it be Fearne was peeved the crowd deserted her for a view of the Queen?

[elnombre]

Originally Posted by fredster

Do you think she knows what being a bully means?

You mean it doesn't mean 'someone who doesn't think I'm as wonderful as I do

Cotton is an extremely lucky individual with zero talent, no charisma, and who has yet to say anything noteworthy or interesting.

[steven walking]

Cotton is just another airhead with rapidly fading looks that has no discerning talent. that pageant needed gravitas but we got Baker and Cotton who are two of the blandest talent free presenters ever to be set loose on the airwaves.

As for her bullying nonsense, she needs to get a life.

[Chrisholland]

Originally Posted by steven walking

Cotton is just another airhead with rapidly fading looks that has no discerning talent. that pageant needed gravitas but we got Baker and Cotton who are two of the blandest talent free presenters ever to be set loose on the airwaves.

As for her bullying nonsense, she needs to get a life.

Ah, now this is interesting. To have an opinion on a service someone is being paid to provide is not, in my view bullying.

To call someone an 'airhead with rapidly fading looks and no talent' is both untrue, unpleasant, and a personal attack and therefore could be described as bullying.

This particularly unpleasant posting does if anything highlight the difference between the two.