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Old 15-11-2004, 05:53
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I have an KV36FS70. The geometry on this set is terrible and Sony cannot recommend anyone who can set the tv up correctly. Can onyone recommend an engineer that could do this?. I live in North London.
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Old 15-11-2004, 10:48
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how old is that model? we have a KV or KX60 (or similar) 28" vega set, and the geometry is shot on that two. my wife says ahe can't notice, but its been pretty bad for stuff like the captions on the news channels for ages.

IIRC, its pretty much impossible to fix - although either the vertical or the horizonatal could be improved a bit more than the other.

the day that tv actually dies, and there's some money in the kitty to buy a new one will be a great day!

sorry, thats not much help - if you do a search on google you can find out more about it - i did at the time, and decided i was pretty much stuck with it unfortunately.

sony apparently allow for a discrepancy of up to 7mm before its deemed to be "faulty" -which is pretty outrageous. but apparently in newer models they've fixed this issue.

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Old 15-11-2004, 22:05
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Many newer Sony's have a customer menu for adjusting the "tilt" of the picture.

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Old 16-11-2004, 10:25
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you could try adjusting the settings in the engineer menu

http://www.kv32tweak.freeuk.com/
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Old 16-11-2004, 21:05
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Originally Posted by philbert
you could try adjusting the settings in the engineer menu

http://www.kv32tweak.freeuk.com/
I'm Brave....I can do that...... but you'd need some sort of crosshatch generator to be able to see what you were doing......
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Old 16-11-2004, 22:32
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Originally Posted by Alzapiedi
I'm Brave....I can do that...... but you'd need some sort of crosshatch generator to be able to see what you were doing......
Be careful and write down all the settings before you change anything (not just the ones you changed) in case you have to do a complete reset. If you get this wrong it can be expensive and a pain to put right.

Also this site is for FX60/65 the 70 may be different.
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Old 17-11-2004, 09:28
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I'm Brave....I can do that...... but you'd need some sort of crosshatch generator to be able to see what you were doing......
Suggest using the test cards on a DVD with THX setup.
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Old 17-11-2004, 09:42
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It's a lot easier now that you can do it from the front (as it were).

Sony domestic sets have had bad geometry since the seventies, except in these days you had to make the adjustments from the back of the set with a mirror perched in front of it!

Their professional monitors are usually fine, so I don't understand why the domestic ones aren't.

Price I suppose...
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Old 17-11-2004, 10:59
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I also think it's about time TV manufacturers gave you easy access and control of picture geometry set-up just like you get with computer monitors. Surely they can have a default setting to return them to manufacturers factory settings should you get into trouble and make a mess of things, but I don't see a problem with monitors so why should there be with TVs?
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Old 17-11-2004, 11:07
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Originally Posted by comicsansserif
I also think it's about time TV manufacturers gave you easy access and control of picture geometry set-up just like you get with computer monitors. Surely they can have a default setting to return them to manufacturers factory settings should you get into trouble and make a mess of things, but I don't see a problem with monitors so why should there be with TVs?
I agree there are certain things that would be safe for the customer to adjust, the "dangerous ones could still be hidden.

To anyone who accesses the sevice screen DO NOT reset to default settings, this can be expensive.
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Old 17-11-2004, 18:40
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Whenever you put your Sony tv in service mode, be careful to NOT enter any numbers, Sony uses a two digit entry method to activate/deactivate features (so, entering 22 might 'tell' the TV that it's a French model for example or 49 might do a reset whereby EVERY setting defaults to a setting that works but will need serious readjusting.

So, be careful in there!
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Old 18-11-2004, 09:32
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I had several problems with Sony geometry a year or so back. The tilt function does not correct for curvature at the top/bottom of the screen. This is controlled by compensating magnets on the neck of the tube. Several Sony service engineers tried to correct my problem, all with no success. In the end I insisted that the tv was 'not fit for purpose' and replaced it with a panasonic, which imo is much superior.
Good luck.
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