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The Hollow Crown (BBC, Shakespeare)
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Ovalteenie
30-06-2012
Watching this now...

Patrick Stewart as John of Gaunt looks remarkably like Colonel Gaddaffi
Evs814
30-06-2012
This was my O Level text. That dates me... And I remembered John of Gaunt's speech. 'this earth, this realm, this England'
Brilliant stuff so far.
barnsleykeith
30-06-2012
Originally Posted by Ovalteenie:
“Watching this now...

Patrick Stewart as John of Gaunt looks remarkably like Colonel Gaddaffi ”

http://www.spikednation.com/sites/de...uOvKOIGC0w.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...i_1550901c.jpg

One of us is living in an alternative reality I'm doing a rewatch of Twin Peaks at the mo. So it could be me.

Hope we get an intermission.
Ovalteenie
30-06-2012
Originally Posted by barnsleykeith:
“http://www.spikednation.com/sites/de...uOvKOIGC0w.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...i_1550901c.jpg

One of us is living in an alternative reality I'm doing a rewatch of Twin Peaks at the mo. So it could be me.

Hope we get an intermission.”



Especially when he was wearing that brown head-dress...
eveningstar
30-06-2012
Originally Posted by Evs814:
“This was my O Level text. That dates me... And I remembered John of Gaunt's speech. 'this earth, this realm, this England'
Brilliant stuff so far.”

Me too, we had to memorise chunks of it and I keep hearing things I still remember. Much better to watch than to read.
Ovalteenie
30-06-2012
Ben Whishaw is doing a great job as a rather fey & slightly loopy Richard
alcockell
30-06-2012
"Go and boil your bottoms! I fart in your general direction..."

Richard is really off - needs to be sectioned NOW...
barnsleykeith
30-06-2012
Originally Posted by alcockell:
“"Go and boil your bottoms! I fart in your general direction..."”

The coconuts are calling me..... time to dig out the DVD I think
Ovalteenie
30-06-2012
Is that really Ben Whishaw in the coffin, or a dummy?

ps. the coffin is a tad too small
Evs814
30-06-2012
That was absolutely brilliant! Here's hoping the rest are as good
Ovalteenie
30-06-2012
That was excellent
Ovalteenie
30-06-2012
ooh the credits have Sam Mendes as executive producer... isn't he Kate Winslet's ex?
Ovalteenie
30-06-2012
ooh it's Father Cadfael...
Glen_Williams
30-06-2012
Slight change from the play there in terms of who presents the dead body, but generally that was really, really good
petertard
30-06-2012
Very impressive. The words were actually communicated well.
the_lostprophet
30-06-2012
Originally Posted by Ovalteenie:
“ooh the credits have Sam Mendes as executive producer... isn't he Kate Winslet's ex?”

Yes he is and he's one of the exec producers for all of the films in this series.

It seems like this was impressive - will check it out tomorrow.
daziechain
30-06-2012
Absolutely brilliant. Ben Wishaw was phenomenal.
Killary45
30-06-2012
Originally Posted by daziechain:
“Absolutely brilliant. Ben Wishaw was phenomenal.”

Totally agree. Was this the best-ever TV Shakespeare?
barnsleykeith
30-06-2012
Originally Posted by the_lostprophet:
“Yes he is and I think he's an exec producer for all of the films in this series.

It seems like this was impressive - will check it out tomorrow. ”

Excellent start. If the whole series is as good as this opener, then the BBC will have a landmark series on their hands. Well done to all those who worked on this project.

Next weeks offering - Henry IV Part 1
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01ktf9g
petertard
01-07-2012
I have read a few poems attributed to Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford, and they are the most amateurish shite imaginable, the work of a very mediocre poet, with simplistic notions. Shakespeare's words and metaphors are complicated, sophisticated and very clever.

The only poets worse than de Vere are William Mcgonagall and John Betjeman.
Jonwo
01-07-2012
I hope if the Hollow Crown is a success, they'll consider making a follow up with Henry VI and Richard III or maybe a similar linked series, maybe a Roman trilogy with Julius Caesar, Titus Andronicus and Anthony and Cleopatra or a Shipwrecked trilogy consisiting of Twelfth Night, The Comedy of Error and The Tempest.
nightstar
01-07-2012
That was fantastic and Ben Wishaw was absolutely brilliant.
barnsleykeith
01-07-2012
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“I hope if the Hollow Crown is a success, they'll consider making a follow up with Henry VI and Richard III or maybe a similar linked series, maybe a Roman trilogy with Julius Caesar, Titus Andronicus and Anthony and Cleopatra or a Shipwrecked trilogy consisiting of Twelfth Night, The Comedy of Error and The Tempest.”

In other words, do a brand new, up to date, Shakespeare collection? I think it's due.
Granny McSmith
01-07-2012
I loved that - I thought Ben Wishaw's portrayal of Richard was good. Emotionally unstable! And Bolingbroke the opposite, I thought - completely calculating. But sometimes he felt remorse, you could see it in his eyes.

Only thing I could have done without were the comic-book Welshmen.

D. Jacobi's programme was also interesting, though I always feel vicariously insulted when someone says Shakespeare couldn't have wriiten the plays because he was only a grammar school boy, and not aristocracy. Are the aristocracy noted for their intelligence, then? Can't say I've seen much sign of it. But I digress.

There's a programme about the Tempest next week, lovely! I am having a good time at the moment, with all this good stuff on! I hope it's a sign of things to come on the BBC.
the_lostprophet
01-07-2012
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“though I always feel vicariously insulted when someone says Shakespeare couldn't have wriiten the plays because he was only a grammar school boy, and not aristocracy.”

I know - I don't have much time for the anti-Stratfordian view either. Apparently Shakespeare would still have had a classical education at grammar school; it's completely plausible that he would have been educated well enough to have written the plays.
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