[DS Forum Support]

Originally Posted by jeffersbnl

Not quite true but I get your point and now remember reading the comments yesterday. 'Technical problems' if in Montrel could mean the ISDN not working- though I'd hope they'd have some sort of IP backup.

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[jmclaugh]

Surprised the BBC didn't choose to show the Canadian GP live as the highlights are very late and it should be much more interesting than the scalextric at Monaco, highlights of which would have been plenty. No doubt Euro 2012 is the answer.

[jeffersbnl]

Originally Posted by jmclaugh

Surprised the BBC didn't choose to show the Canadian GP live as the highlights are very late and it should be much more interesting than the scalextric at Monaco, highlights of which would have been plenty. No doubt Euro 2012 is the answer.

Given the BBC have no live games tomorrow it isn't!

When it had to make savings after the last license fee settlement one of the priorities decided by those at the very top of the BBC was along the lines of 'events that bring the nation together' - and it seems BBC Sport are following that with the rights they've kept and the races they've chosen- they're going for events that appeal beyond those who normally watch a sport. So when the new deal was done for F1 races the two obvious choices were the British GP (imagine the reaction if the BBC didn't have that), Monaco (its the highest profile event) and the final race of the season- so that if its a dramatic championship decider they've got it live. Those are three pretty obvious first choices. Then it was Skys go- and as speculated here - they probably went for Canada, the US and Australia. Or maybe Italy.

Remember too the rule that the BBC can't have three live races in a row and Sky can't have three exclusive races in a row.

[_SpeedRacer_]

Originally Posted by jmclaugh

Surprised the BBC didn't choose to show the Canadian GP live as the highlights are very late and it should be much more interesting than the scalextric at Monaco, highlights of which would have been plenty. No doubt Euro 2012 is the answer.

The BBC picked the first 3 (Silverstone, Monaco, last race) so inevitably $ky were going to screw over the BBC viewers as much as possible by picking the remaining evening races. It's sad to think that epic races like Canada last year will no longer get anywhere near as much public attention in the future.

[madmusician]

Originally Posted by _SpeedRacer_

The BBC picked the first 3 (Silverstone, Monaco, last race) so inevitably $ky were going to screw over the BBC viewers as much as possible by picking the remaining evening races. It's sad to think that epic races like Canada last year will no longer get anywhere near as much public attention in the future.

Or pick the three that make the most business sense to show - Canada in prime time will bring them more viewing figures, plus leave the BBC with late-night highlights.

I agree that it's a pity though, after last years' epic-ness!

[jmclaugh]

None of those replies changes the fact they could have chosen Canada over Monaco as a live race.

[jeffersbnl]

Originally Posted by jmclaugh

None of those replies changes the fact they could have chosen Canada over Monaco as a live race.

They could have- just as they could have chosen any of the other 19 races. The replies to your post have explained why they didn't.

The BBC had very good reasons for choosing the three races they did, and from Sky's perspective their first three choices were equally obvious.

[mjr]

Originally Posted by jmclaugh

None of those replies changes the fact they could have chosen Canada over Monaco as a live race.

At the point they were choosing the F1 races, they may not even have known the scheduling of the football between them and ITV which further complicates matters.

[jeffersbnl]

Originally Posted by madmusician

Or pick the three that make the most business sense to show - Canada in prime time will bring them more viewing figures, plus leave the BBC with late-night highlights.

I agree that it's a pity though, after last years' epic-ness!

It is a shame, but that was an exceptional race! Might be very different this year. Maybe Silverstone or Spa will be a massively rain affected epic race. Then there would have been complaints that the BBC hadn't chosen those! They weren't to know when deciding, so they had to go with the three most obvious picks- especially the ones 'ordinary' viewers would expect to see live.

[jeffersbnl]

Originally Posted by mjr

At the point they were choosing the F1 races, they may not even have known the scheduling of the football between them and ITV which further complicates matters.

They wouldn't- that was decided relatively recently. The Olympics might have been an affecting factor. Wimbledon might have been were it not the British GP.

[Guv'nor]

Originally Posted by Aaron-Scotland

Ted thought it was either a 3D or rotating one, He said he thinks it's just a Red Bull one for their benefit however. Shame

Ted later explained it was an Infra red camera pointing at the tyres to measure temperatures.

It was 2010 when FOM trialled 3D cameras at Montreal.

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[Jules 1]

For 2013, do they get to pick the races again, or do they they stick with the current choices, (race changes pending).

[F1Ken]

Originally Posted by Jules 1

For 2013, do they get to pick the races again, or do they they stick with the current choices, (race changes pending).

Good Question which I would also like to know the answer for. I reckon they do.

Ken

[D.M.N.]

Originally Posted by Jules 1

For 2013, do they get to pick the races again, or do they they stick with the current choices, (race changes pending).

I imagine it depends on the calendar, to be honest. It may not be a given that Australia will be the opener and Brazil the closer.

[stevvy1986]

Originally Posted by D.M.N.

I imagine it depends on the calendar, to be honest. It may not be a given that Australia will be the opener and Brazil the closer.

Plus isn't there meant to be a 2nd US race next season as well?

[F1Ken]

Originally Posted by D.M.N.

I imagine it depends on the calendar, to be honest. It may not be a given that Australia will be the opener and Brazil the closer.

I would think that Monaco and the British GP's are set in stone for the BBC. The other races could be very different. If the calender were to be re arranged you could end up with sky having more than 2 in a row exclusive or the BBC could have more than 2 in a row live. Based on this just like the BBC and ITV do with the world cup and the European championship they will chose each season.

I would like them to mix it up next year so I get something different and not just the same GP's every year.

Does the BBC show half the races or just 10. Because it could get to a point when there are 22. Does the BBC still show 10 or does it show 11. we know when there is an odd number the BBC will show 9 so I assume they show half the races not just 10. If you understand my babble.

That is probably a really stupid question.

Ken

[stevvy1986]

Bernie constantly says there won't be more than 20 races. I don't see there being more than 20 if I'm honest, as I expect to see some tracks to drop off the calendar before long (Korea, the 2 Spanish tracks could alternate, France and Belgium could alternate if France gets a GP back, China maybe, Bahrain possibly).

[_SpeedRacer_]

Just seen the F1 show, I though JV was an escaped convict at first glance! Good pundit though.

[Buddy2008]

Erm...can't quote what I'm replying to now, I think, because of the thread change, but the slightly disappointing thing is that I did ask @5LiveF1 the other day whether "online only" sessions would arrive on the iplayer and was told that they would. If the reason it's not there is because there was nothing rebroadcastable then that's fair enough. I'd say on balance this is probably the worst weekend for BBC F1 coverage since the start of 2009 though.

[stefmeister]

I was surprised Ted Didn't know what those InfaRed cameras teams were using were as they have been used by teams for years in various forms.

Been a few teams running those bigger units in practice & testing this year.

[davepusey]

Originally Posted by Guv'nor

It was 2010 when FOM trialled 3D cameras at Montreal.

Onboard

Clearly not 2010, as that first picture is a Brawn from 2009.

[davepusey]

Originally Posted by stevvy1986

the 2 Spanish tracks could alternate

Hasn't that already been confirmed?

[allthingsuk]

There was loads of breakup on the onboard video yesterday in practice. Strange. Not sure why, if anyone could shed light on this.

[davepusey]

Originally Posted by allthingsuk

There was loads of breakup on the onboard video yesterday in practice. Strange. Not sure why, if anyone could shed light on this.

There was a lightning storm nearby. They often corrupt radio transmissions.

[Red Devil]

Originally Posted by Buddy2008

Erm...can't quote what I'm replying to now, I think, because of the thread change, but the slightly disappointing thing is that I did ask @5LiveF1 the other day whether "online only" sessions would arrive on the iplayer and was told that they would. If the reason it's not there is because there was nothing rebroadcastable then that's fair enough. I'd say on balance this is probably the worst weekend for BBC F1 coverage since the start of 2009 though.

I watched a practice review on the red button earlier & they had commentary on Kovalainen's crash from Ben & Jaime, so they do have the commentary available to them.