[DS Forum Support]

Originally Posted by SheepdogNo1

Mr Osborne is the very heart of all the torys troubles , he pursuaded Cameron to appoint Coulson instead of Hari, Osbornes charm offensive in getting NI's support & he was the one who suggested Hunt for the job. Mr Osborne is not so much chancellor, but the very guts of the tory engine in Downing Street & so its quite clear that the has the most questions to answer about all manner of items raised as part of Levesons inquiry so far. Osborne detests Gordon Brown & its quite telling that after Osbornes chasing of NI, that the Suns headlines about Brown where quite vicious in destroying Brown. Surely mission accomplished for Osborne?

Wasnt Murdoch senior apprehensive about swicthing support & it took a lot of pursuading from James & Rebekah to get him to make the switch. Why would the two big winners from the BskyB bid deal going through be keen for Murdoch snr to switch his titles support? Skewed by the good old days of Thatcher making things happen & so the thinking of , well they allowed us to game change last time, they'll let us do it this time as well.

As weve learned New Labour new they where playing with a loaded dice & through Blairs desire to avoid Labour getting another mauling he set the arms race in motion & so Osborne knowing what had been done set about getting the tories message accross to NI, so what sweetners where discussed? Hunts support of James Murdoch's McTaggart lecture being no coincidence, Mr Camerons bonfire of the quango's that directly mentioned OFCOM? All adds up to the mess the tories find themselves in over this.

Milliband & Clegg are important witness's given the way the right wing press reports them , reporting the facts of just furthering their owners business interests by making it difficult for differing views to be heard clearly?

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[WindWalker]

Osborne detests Gordon Brown & its quite telling that after Osbornes chasing of NI, that the Suns headlines about Brown where quite vicious in destroying Brown. Surely mission accomplished for Osborne?

I wonder if there had been tip offs, briefings or any other seedy goings on between Conservatives and the media about Brown? There did seem to be a lot of detail that only those inside Westminster were likely to be aware of.

[gummy mummy]

[/QUOTE=Jilly;58727363] and we all believed him

Well of course we do

We have to believe they are ALL telling the truth and that those to come will ALL tell the truth, otherwise it turns the whole inquiry into a bit of a farce.

[Jilly]

Originally Posted by gummy mummy

[/QUOTE=Jilly;58727363] and we all believed him

Well of course we do

We have to believe they are ALL telling the truth and that those to come will ALL tell the truth, otherwise it turns the whole inquiry into a bit of a farce.

Yes I agree although I think Blair got off lightly and no follow up questions to his remarks.

[WindWalker]

Originally Posted by gummy mummy

[/QUOTE=Jilly;58727363] and we all believed him

Well of course we do

We have to believe they are ALL telling the truth and that those to come will ALL tell the truth, otherwise it turns the whole inquiry into a bit of a farce.

In Blair's case, I don't think there was ever anything to lead us to believe his relationship with RB or the inner workings of NI were anything other than professional was there?

He may be a lot of things but daft he isn't, not even a mobile phone. Clever man, got to give him that.

[Jilly]

Originally Posted by WindWalker

In Blair's case, I don't think there was ever anything to lead us to believe his relationship with RB or the inner workings of NI were anything other than professional was there?

He may be a lot of things but daft he isn't, not even a mobile phone. Clever man, got to give him that.

Really.. I think he was very close to Rupert Murdoch and Rebekah Wade, as she was then.

[gummy mummy]

Originally Posted by Jilly

Yes I agree although I think Blair got off lightly and no follow up questions to his remarks.

You may very well be right, I don't know as I didn't watch all of it, so you'll get no argument from me

[WindWalker]

Originally Posted by Jilly

Really.. I think he was very close to Rupert Murdoch and Rebekah Wade, as she was then.

The evidence didn't bear that out though did it?

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by Jilly

Really.. I think he was very close to Rupert Murdoch and Rebekah Wade, as she was then.

I completely agree. Blair was in it up to his neck. Fortunately for Blair, Leveson is more interested in building up a general picture than prosecuting a case against individual politicans. For this reason I expect that this weeks crop, Cameron, Brown, Osbourne, Clegg et al, can thank their lucky stars. I think, if there are to be any moments of drama, they are most likely to arise when Gordon takes the stand.

[occy]

A PM, Chancellor and former PM at Leveson this coming week. Should be interesting. I wonder who will be the knight in shining armor riding off on the horse.

[Jilly]

Originally Posted by WindWalker

The evidence didn't bear that out though did it?

Well there is Blair's tales and what we know and what is being investigated.

He admitted he was close friends of Rebekah Brooks and he had toknow him pretty well to be a Godfather to one of his children.

[Jilly]

Originally Posted by Zeus

I completely agree. Blair was in it up to his neck. Fortunately for Blair, Leveson is more interested in building up a general picture than prosecuting a case against individual politicans. For this reason I expect that this weeks crop, Cameron, Brown, Osbourne, Clegg et al, can thank their lucky stars. I think, if there are to be any moments of drama, they are most likely to arise when Gordon takes the stand.

I think you may be right

[Annsyre]

Originally Posted by Zeus

I completely agree. Blair was in it up to his neck. Fortunately for Blair, Leveson is more interested in building up a general picture than prosecuting a case against individual politicans. For this reason I expect that this weeks crop, Cameron, Brown, Osbourne, Clegg et al, can thank their lucky stars. I think, if there are to be any moments of drama, they are most likely to arise when Gordon takes the stand.

Murdoch chose Blair as a godfather to his child - that is not a professional relationship.

[Sallysally]

Originally Posted by Annsyre

Murdoch chose Blair as a godfather to his child - that is not a professional relationship.

No, but he did say he became friends with the Murdochs after his term in office. It is not inconceivable that Murdoch admired Blair for the canny politician he is and Blair was in no position to be picky about his friends after he left office. God knows he had few enough in this country.

[WindWalker]

Originally Posted by Jilly

Well there is Blair's tales and what we know and what is being investigated.

He admitted he was close friends of Rebekah Brooks and he had toknow him pretty well to be a Godfather to one of his children.

From the other thread:

Originally Posted by gummy mummy

Didn't Blair say at the Leveson inquiry that he only became 'friends' with Murdoch after leaving number 10 ?

Originally Posted by Annsyre

He did indeed. He said that they had a professional relationship before and became close friends afterwards. Blair said that he clearly knew the difference between a working relationship and a personal one.

I thought it had been established already but have quoted it here for clarity.

[Sad_BB_Addict]

Oooo, we got to part 2.
What a load of chatterboxes.

[Sad_BB_Addict]

IoS exclusive: Revealed - Cameron's secret summit with News Corp
Murdoch lobbyist dismissed as a 'fantasist' set up talks between the PM and the News Corp board
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...p-7717644.html

[Jilly]

Originally Posted by Sad_BB_Addict

IoS exclusive: Revealed - Cameron's secret summit with News Corp
Murdoch lobbyist dismissed as a 'fantasist' set up talks between the PM and the News Corp board
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...p-7717644.html

Cameron was not PM at the time it was 2009. I guess he was trying to build up a professional relationship like Blair

[Mr.Humphries]

Originally Posted by Sad_BB_Addict

IoS exclusive: Revealed - Cameron's secret summit with News Corp
Murdoch lobbyist dismissed as a 'fantasist' set up talks between the PM and the News Corp board
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...p-7717644.html

The days when you could take The Independent newspaper seriously have long gone. It now reads like a David Icke tract.

[SideshowStu]

Originally Posted by Mr.Humphries

The days when you could take The Independent newspaper seriously have long gone. It now reads like a David Icke tract.

I'll take your word for that as I've never read David Icke

The style of prose aside, what do you make of the substance of the article?

[Blamhappy2]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...interview.html

This article discusses whether the real reason why Osborne wanted Coulson was that Coulson had played down Osborne's debauched behaviour.

I wonder if Robert Jay will be allowed to ask about this specifically.

[Sad_BB_Addict]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-Inquiry.html#

Interesting piece on Cameron by Peter Oborne.

[Sad_BB_Addict]

Monday 8pm on C4:
"Murdoch, Cameron & the £8 billion deal"

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/d.../articles/home
There's even time to get something to eat after the footie!

[Sad_BB_Addict]

Leveson matters, and not just to the elite it shames
Leveson, a blockbuster of an inquiry, reveals a political class cut off from the public. In its wake must come a new politics

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...s-new-politics

[Sad_BB_Addict]

Beeb preview of today
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18386968#