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Hit Em Up Style
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by toanythingtaboo:
“The point isn't in the actuality/outcomes of the lawsuits, it's in the accusations themselves. It's ironic that people give Gaga such a hard time for ripping things off, when Madonna herself faced more or less the same.

So, because you consider there to be an MJ reference there, she must be throwing shade at Madonna?”

When someone is as famous as Madonna this is what happens. Are you aware she was threatend with being sued for calling one of her tracks Girl Gone Wild?

Its tragic that people would try to use that against Madonna in defence of Gaga! the Gaga things are completely different too as you have icons like Grace Jones and Bette Midler also accusing her of copying from them..
Hit Em Up Style
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by TH14:
“They did.They both went to each others shows and spoke of each other in glowing terms. From what I recall, it went a bit sour when BTW was released and there was a bit of a backlash when the media compared it to EY and I know this upset Gaga. White Shadow then came out and launched a scathing insulting attack on Madonna. I know Starlight called her 'a dried up old c*nt'. Then came the reductive comment and Gaga's fanbase seemed to go into meltdown and then Terry R has defaced Madonna's tour poster. I don't think Gaga is naive and I bet she knows what her closest friends have said about Madonna, I sometimes think she lies back and lets others fire the bullets on her behalf while she preserves her 'anti bullying' reputation. It's all tit for tat anyway and has been blown out of all proportion”

Again another great example of the goings on within Gaga's team.
TH14
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“Again another great example of the goings on within Gaga's team.”

I think the media have shit stirred it a lot though and I think Madonna got fed up of being asked about Gaga all the time when she was trying to promote the film and she probably just snapped with the 'reductive' comment. Madonna is bitchy though and that's well known and I always remember an up and coming singer in the 90's (can't remember the name exactly) saying they approached Madonna and started going on about how wonderful she was and Madonna looked at her as if she was something she had trood on. I think you get Madonna's respect by being a pioneer and standing on your own two feet in your own right hence her gushing praise of Adele.

It makes me laugh though how many Gaga fans say how irrelevant Madonna is nowadays but yet seem so caught up and occupied with her and have to deface every YouTube video..strange
Hit Em Up Style
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by TH14:
“I think the media have shit stirred it a lot though and I think Madonna got fed up of being asked about Gaga all the time when she was trying to promote the film and she probably just snapped with the 'reductive' comment. Madonna is bitchy though and that's well known and I always remember an up and coming singer in the 90's (can't remember the name exactly) saying they approached Madonna and started going on about how wonderful she was and Madonna looked at her as if she was something she had trood on. I think you get Madonna's respect by being a pioneer and standing on your own two feet in your own right hence her gushing praise of Adele.

It makes me laugh though how many Gaga fans say how irrelevant Madonna is nowadays but yet seem so caught up and occupied with her and have to deface every YouTube video..strange”

So true. If Madonna is such a has been they wouldn't waste all their days talking about her! tis funny. M is very much relevant to them because of the attention they keep giving her.

And the thing about Madonna is that she is real. She doesn't pretend to be this angel of love, who loves everyone and everything. Like everyone Madonna has her off days and has a bitch. That is what makes her human and not some lovie dovie faker hiding behind a made up name and OTT image.
TH14
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“So true. If Madonna is such a has been they wouldn't waste all their days talking about her! tis funny.

And the thing about Madonna is that she is real. She doesn't pretend to be this angel of love, who loves everyone and everything. Like everyone Madonna has her off days and has a bitch. That is what makes her human and not some lovie dovie faker.”

She's a bitch and she knows it what you see is what you get and if there's a comment she wants the world to hear she won't get her best friends to deliver it, she'll say it herself. For someone who's over and past it she's doing well to have had a recent number one album and is embarking on a fantastic tour that's going to out gross others this year
Hit Em Up Style
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by TH14:
“She's a bitch and she knows it what you see is what you get and if there's a comment she wants the world to hear she won't get her best friends to deliver it, she'll say it herself. For someone who's over and past it she's doing well to have had a recent number one album and is embarking on a fantastic tour that's going to out gross others this year”

Exactly. She managed to have a number 1 album in countless countries without a lead single in the charts. She has matched the Elvis record and is now in pole position to break it with her next album. Not a sign of someone who is over and if its true that her American Tour dates have grossed 250k alone then that is really something for a 53 year old who is passed it!!

Watch her do a second leg in 2013 and break her Sticky & Sweet record with ease.

I think the fact Madonna can still do this at her age is killing people!
jackbell
10-06-2012
Nothing about Gaga is original. Even her name's a copy.

She should have called herself Lady Scrapbook or Lady Tracing Paper?
jadebutterfly96
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by toanythingtaboo:
“The point isn't in the actuality/outcomes of the lawsuits, it's in the accusations themselves. It's ironic that people give Gaga such a hard time for ripping things off, when Madonna herself faced more or less the same.

So, because you consider there to be an MJ reference there, she must be throwing shade at Madonna?”

I've just opened the LAP album and checked the song credits for Express Yourself, which clearly states "it contains a sample of Respect Yourself". How's that a rip off?
Hit Em Up Style
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by jadebutterfly96:
“I've just opened the LAP album and checked the song credits for Express Yourself, which clearly states "it contains a sample of Respect Yourself". How's that a rip off?”

Thats interesting.

I searched high and low to see if I could find anything about this lawsuit against Express Yourself and didn't manage to find a thing. I might be wrong but I can't ever recall Madonna being in trouble over Express Yourself and other Madonna fans I have asked can't either but I am happy to be proven wrong if anyone has proof it really did happen.. its not even listed on Wiki.
jadebutterfly96
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by Hit Em Up Style:
“Thats interesting.

I searched high and low to see if I could find anything about this lawsuit against Express Yourself and didn't manage to find a thing. I might be wrong but I can't ever recall Madonna being in trouble over Express Yourself and other Madonna fans I have asked can't either but I am happy to be proven wrong if anyone has proof it really did happen.. its not even listed on Wiki.”

There wasn't a lawsuit because Staple Sisters earned sh**loads of royalties for granting permission. Some desperate little monsters were telling lies to make their MM look better. That is all.
jadebutterfly96
10-06-2012
Next you'll hear Madonna got sued by Abba for using the sample of Gimme Gimme Gimme in Hung Up. You hear it first from desperate little monsters in a DS forum.
Hit Em Up Style
10-06-2012
Originally Posted by jadebutterfly96:
“Next you'll hear Madonna got sued by Abba for using the sample of Gimme Gimme Gimme in Hung Up. You hear it first from desperate little monsters in a DS forum.”

The funniest thing I have seen was someone on a blog site claiming Madonna had ripped off Monroe's Diamonds Are A Girls Best Friend for the Material Girl video without actually realising the video was a homage. I mean how can you not get that? its scary how far this is now being taken!
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