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are people bored of madonna?
usually every album she's released there has always been a big buzz but with MDNA it's like no-one cares.
I know she hasn't promoted it as much but even so. Also the tour as well hasn't been reviewed as much usually every TV show is talking about it but not this time. |
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usually every album she's released there has always been a big buzz but with MDNA it's like no-one cares.
I know she hasn't promoted it as much but even so. Also the tour as well hasn't been reviewed as much usually every TV show is talking about it but not this time. I'd disagree about the tour though. The EY/BTW mashup hit many headlines, the Marine Le Pen swastika hit some too and the boob flash has been talked about a lot too. |
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I Adore Madonna but MDMA just lacks that 'Feel good Feeling' i really miss tracks like her Confessions era , there on tracks on there i can play endlessly on loop all day without getting tired of it.
I still think Madge has it for Music but she needs to go back to her Disco House style music or another Chilled Out era like Frozen , Power of Goodbye , Ray of Light etc.. Im not into this whole Dubstep trend at the moment which is what she is trying to market her self at , that being the 'The New Generation' with the sound she has on her latest album. |
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A little bit. And I say that as a long time fan. Her current album is just a bit 'seen that, done that' for me. She's just going over old territory. I'd like to see her move away from dance and glitter balls. We've been here since 2005. Move on.
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usually every album she's released there has always been a big buzz but with MDNA it's like no-one cares.
I know she hasn't promoted it as much but even so. Also the tour as well hasn't been reviewed as much usually every TV show is talking about it but not this time. There are ways to age in the industry and maintain your place, look at Bonnie Raitt and Shirley Bassey. Hell, look at Grace Jones at the Jubilee Weekend, she was ostentatious and eccentric but didn't flash anyone or anything because she can sing her ass off and is already theatrical enough. However Madonna is over 50 and trying to "get down with the cool kids" and it's jarring, even moreso than someone like Tim Westwood who is open to parody and doesn't take himself seriously. Madonna flashing her boobs and trying to be controversial worked when she was in her 30s and vital and vibrant. These days she has the musculature of an aging fitness competitor and is like the middle aged woman at a disco trying to dance the night away because "I still feel young!" when the reality is she should be putting her kids to bed, not dancing around in skimpy outfits and thigh high boots like an aging stripper. |
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Mutton dressing as lamb is rarely flattering. Mothers embarrassing their grown kids is not inspiring or cool.
There are ways to age in the industry and maintain your place, look at Bonnie Raitt and Shirley Bassey. Hell, look at Grace Jones at the Jubilee Weekend, she was ostentatious and eccentric but didn't flash anyone or anything because she can sing her ass off and is already theatrical enough. However Madonna is over 50 and trying to "get down with the cool kids" and it's jarring, even moreso than someone like Tim Westwood who is open to parody and doesn't take himself seriously. Madonna flashing her boobs and trying to be controversial worked when she was in her 30s and vital and vibrant. These days she has the musculature of an aging fitness competitor and is like the middle aged woman at a disco trying to dance the night away because "I still feel young!" when the reality is she should be putting her kids to bed, not dancing around in skimpy outfits and thigh high boots like an aging stripper. |
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Mutton dressing as lamb is rarely flattering. Mothers embarrassing their grown kids is not inspiring or cool.
There are ways to age in the industry and maintain your place, look at Bonnie Raitt and Shirley Bassey. Hell, look at Grace Jones at the Jubilee Weekend, she was ostentatious and eccentric but didn't flash anyone or anything because she can sing her ass off and is already theatrical enough. However Madonna is over 50 and trying to "get down with the cool kids" and it's jarring, even moreso than someone like Tim Westwood who is open to parody and doesn't take himself seriously. Madonna flashing her boobs and trying to be controversial worked when she was in her 30s and vital and vibrant. These days she has the musculature of an aging fitness competitor and is like the middle aged woman at a disco trying to dance the night away because "I still feel young!" when the reality is she should be putting her kids to bed, not dancing around in skimpy outfits and thigh high boots like an aging stripper. |
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Mutton dressing as lamb is rarely flattering. Mothers embarrassing their grown kids is not inspiring or cool.
There are ways to age in the industry and maintain your place, look at Bonnie Raitt and Shirley Bassey. Hell, look at Grace Jones at the Jubilee Weekend, she was ostentatious and eccentric but didn't flash anyone or anything because she can sing her ass off and is already theatrical enough. However Madonna is over 50 and trying to "get down with the cool kids" and it's jarring, even moreso than someone like Tim Westwood who is open to parody and doesn't take himself seriously. Madonna flashing her boobs and trying to be controversial worked when she was in her 30s and vital and vibrant. These days she has the musculature of an aging fitness competitor and is like the middle aged woman at a disco trying to dance the night away because "I still feel young!" when the reality is she should be putting her kids to bed, not dancing around in skimpy outfits and thigh high boots like an aging stripper. I'll 3rd it ![]() Thing is she ISNT going to get new music buyers (the teens) getting all excited by a 53 yr old, and flashing her tit was to, be honest, embarrassing and shows how desperate she is. Yes, she has her fan base who will lap it up (Josh Pinder will be along shortly I'm sure ), but the rest of us (and I am just behind her in age and grew up loving SOME stuff, like, Like A Prayer) just think meh.
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If Madonna never released another album, her body of work already makes her one of the greatest music acts ever, and she pisses all over wannabes like Lady Gaga.
She should move away from dance/electronic and needs to do something basic and simple. |
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I really struggle with all this age stuff. Madonna has a fantastic body and is in great Body for her age. Understandably Madonna is not going to appeal to a young fan base and you wouldn't expect her to. Part of growing up is connecting with your icon and there music inspiring so you relate to the artist. Young kids are not going to relate to a female in her fifties even I can remember when I was a teen anyone over the age of thirty appeared ancient. So she is not going to have the following of a young pop star. Also when your young you tend to adore pop stars you fancy and it would be creepy 12 /16 year old kids having the hots for Madonna.
But just because she no longer appeals to the kids should that mean she covers up and starts recording love ballads absolutely not. There are a generation of grown ups who grew up with Madonna being sexual and trendy. Just because some of those people are now in there twin set and pearls or have let themselves go and get saggy. Why does that mean Madonna should. Express Yourself! |
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MDNA has some wonderful songs on it, they just fecked up by choosing to release the crap generic singles. Give me all your love was an awful choice for first single and GGW was a generic bore. With the likes of Love spent, I'm addicted, Falling free and even beautiful killer completely ignored IMO, It was a major WTF moment for me, what were they thinking! The non promo was stupid and was another WTF moment. So music wise the music choices were a bore. Madonna has always gone to the beat of her own drum, she has always been provocative, so why was this blink of an eye flashing boob 'desperate', she was doing it in her own show not on network TV. She was showing her boob on her own terms, not flashing it to please a man etc, not conforming to what society thinks a woman her age should be doing or dressing like. Maybe that's were the problem lies, she isn't showing her body in a sexy pleasing man way, she isn't doing this for the male gaze, that's why the likes of Howard Stern and Morgan call her desperate because she scares them. she doesn't weaken herself by being 'girly', she doesn't cry to make herself seem weak and demure as a woman in society should be, she doesn't act the way a woman her age in society should supposedly act. Just my opinon! I think it's sad reading sexist and ageist remarks regarding this issue and other things relating to Madonna in the media. She is a woman over 50 who can do things on stage people half her age couldn't do dancing wise. She doesn't victimise herself, hasn't succumbed to drug abuse and is a strong non apologetic woman that the media can not deal with, so they constantly try to tear her down for the most silly mundane things. The hydrangea incident being one of them. Will Smith slaps the same joke reporter and it hardly makes the headlines, if Madonna had done that they would have wanted her jailed or something. Asking are people bored of Madonna, well after 30 years she ain't done bad, I was bored with the album a little because it offered nothing new, so I was disappointed. I want her to spend more time on her next album, locked in a studio writing and feeling her music again. Am I bored with Madonna has a person, NEVER! she still pisses people of good or bad and has produced IMO a brilliant tour.
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it's not just Madonna. The whole provocative act or the idea that a show must grab attention with a little bit of oooh eer controversy is looking a bit passe right now. I'm not sure if it's just the Adele/Emeli/ etc factor, but stripping it back to just the music feels more forward thinking at present.
Madonna has never really left the 80's except for the 'Ray of Light' period where she briefly threatened to grow up and Gaga has retrospectively joined her there.
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it's not just Madonna. The whole provocative act or the idea that a show must grab attention with a little bit of oooh eer controversy is looking a bit passe right now. I'm not sure if it's just the Adele/Emeli/ etc factor, but stripping it back to just the music feels more forward thinking at present.
Madonna has never really left the 80's except for the 'Ray of Light' period where she briefly threatened to grow up and Gaga has retrospectively joined her there.I agree with you that the 'provocative act' is a little passe now because it was done by her when it actually provoked and hadn't really been done before. Gaga is doing it now and she is being equally passe because of it. That's the thing with Madonna, she does things when she is ready to do them, she will not be dictated to by media or society. Saying she should slow down , strip down her show (which I would love by the way) or be 'mature for her age' is like waving a red flag at her. I think her tour is amazing, she knows she will not be able to do another one on this scale again because sadly age isn't on her side. So maybe a wonderful stripped back show will be on the horizon because lets face it she has done some incredible pop songs. *fingers crossed* |
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I don't see what age has got to do with anything, and this is coming from someone who isn't the biggest fan of Madonna (although she has obviously done some amazing songs in the past). The problem I have with the nipple thing and others is that after 30 years, I would have expected her to have developed artistically and not feel the need to do things like that. I suppose she feels that when she's gone, she wants people to think of her being "controversial" until the last moment. It's strange how she labelled Gaga as being reductive when everything she's doing, especially Hard Candy and MDNA, is nothing but that. Love Spent is brillant pop song though
![]() I think she has reached her saturation point now. With the internet and everything, it's too difficult to be original now. Everything's been done before. I think she just do one last farewell album, coming from a more reflective place (and I mean a bit deeper than wanting to shoot your ex-husband in the head), and just end it before she starts wrecking her career even further. To be honest, when you strip away her legacy and things she's done in the past, I don't think she can compete with Gaga. |
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I don't see what age has got to do with anything, and this is coming from someone who isn't the biggest fan of Madonna (although she has obviously done some amazing songs in the past). The problem I have with the nipple thing and others is that after 30 years, I would have expected her to have developed artistically and not feel the need to do things like that. I suppose she feels that when she's gone, she wants people to think of her being "controversial" until the last moment. It's strange how she labelled Gaga as being reductive when everything she's doing, especially Hard Candy and MDNA, is nothing but that. Love Spent is brillant pop song though
![]() I think she has reached her saturation point now. With the internet and everything, it's too difficult to be original now. Everything's been done before. I think she just do one last farewell album, coming from a more reflective place (and I mean a bit deeper than wanting to shoot your ex-husband in the head), and just end it before she starts wrecking her career even further. To be honest, when you strip away her legacy and things she's done in the past, I don't think she can compete with Gaga. Madonna will out last everyone. I am really worried about her though. I can't help but feel she is having a very public and very sad breakdown. Which wouldn't surprise me the life she has had. Many popstars can't cope with even half the pressure Madonna has. If that is how it plays out I suspect she will have a huge comeback in a few years and once again be the icon she should be remembered as. Infact maybe thats the idea
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Weren't people saying the same thing about Madonna ten years ago when Britney appeared?
Madonna will out last everyone. I am really worried about her though. I can't help but feel she is having a very public and very sad breakdown. Which wouldn't surprise me the life she has had. Many popstars can't cope with even half the pressure Madonna has. If that is how it plays out I suspect she will have a huge comeback in a few years and once again be the icon she should be remembered as. If Britney had been a little bit smarter (not calling her stupid, but.. well...) she would've exlipsed Madonna's career. Madonna would have kept on going, sure, nothing's going to stop that, but in terms of any rivalry or whatever, Britney would've been doing alot better. She's still crazy popular and doesn't even do anything. Ever. She's America's sweetheart, Madonna never has been, she's always been that kind of edgy one that the kids parents didn't want the kids knowing about. I haven't seen a video clip of it or anything, but if it's simply just getting her boob out without any context, then it's a pretty sad publicity stunt. I doubt she's having a breakdown, she's a very intelligent woman, I just think she may be running out of ideas in terms of how to get people talking about her. It wouldn't have been this way if the album had been any good and not a phoned in mess. |
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Madonna got lucky with Britney when Britney severely misplaced each and every marble in her posession.
If Britney had been a little bit smarter (not calling her stupid, but.. well...) she would've exlipsed Madonna's career. Madonna would have kept on going, sure, nothing's going to stop that, but in terms of any rivalry or whatever, Britney would've been doing alot better. She's still crazy popular and doesn't even do anything. Ever. She's America's sweetheart, Madonna never has been, she's always been that kind of edgy one that the kids parents didn't want the kids knowing about. I haven't seen a video clip of it or anything, but if it's simply just getting her boob out without any context, then it's a pretty sad publicity stunt. I doubt she's having a breakdown, she's a very intelligent woman, I just think she may be running out of ideas in terms of how to get people talking about her. It wouldn't have been this way if the album had been any good and not a phoned in mess. MDNA is a good album it just isn't a Madonna album. Hasn't one of the producers actually come out and said he wasn't given enough time to finish the tracks? that suggests the whole thing was rushed out and that is how it comes across when you listen to it. Madonna might be clever but her behaviour is coming more and more erratic. Clever people can crack too you know and the pressures Madonna has on her anyway makes her anything but normal. Along with Queen Liz she is the most famous woman in the world. The fact she made it this far without ever going nuts is a credit to her strong will. |
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No, because I live in a time warp, I listen to every album up to Music. Nothing after that.
Still a Goddess in my eyes.
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MDNA has some great songs.
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The fact that she's just had a number one album, embarked on what looks like a fantastic tour to packed stadiums and is still getting headlines suggests that people aren't bored of her yet. The fact that Gaga stans have to deface every video on YouTube still suggests she is a force to be reckoned with
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MDNA has some great songs.
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The fact that she's just had a number one album, embarked on what looks like a fantastic tour to packed stadiums and is still getting headlines suggests that people aren't bored of her yet. The fact that Gaga stans have to deface every video on YouTube still suggests she is a force to be reckoned with
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Is that why they get called Little Monsters? Its not just Madonna videos they go crazy on. They have ruined so many of Adele's and Kylie's.
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I don't understand the need to get the album out so fast at all.
As for defacing youtube vid comments, madge fans do it to gaga videos, Bieber fans do it to Gaga videos, Britney/rihanna etc etc. It's nothing to do with one person or fanbase, but all of them. |
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Madonna got lucky with Britney when Britney severely misplaced each and every marble in her posession.
If Britney had been a little bit smarter (not calling her stupid, but.. well...) she would've exlipsed Madonna's career. Madonna would have kept on going, sure, nothing's going to stop that, but in terms of any rivalry or whatever, Britney would've been doing alot better. She's still crazy popular and doesn't even do anything. Ever. She's America's sweetheart, Madonna never has been, she's always been that kind of edgy one that the kids parents didn't want the kids knowing about. I haven't seen a video clip of it or anything, but if it's simply just getting her boob out without any context, then it's a pretty sad publicity stunt. I doubt she's having a breakdown, she's a very intelligent woman, I just think she may be running out of ideas in terms of how to get people talking about her. It wouldn't have been this way if the album had been any good and not a phoned in mess. The thing is, this happened in a Muslim country that is dealing with a prime minister that put in danger women's rights in the country. He is trying to pass a law that will forbid abortions, to pass the infamous "Veil law" that will make every Turk woman wear black from head to tow and prevent them from working and from studying at the university and so forth. It was also reported that the majority of the Istanbul concert goers were women. All of this makes me think that the nipple flashing + "no fear" tattoo was intended to empower Turk women. I Think Madonna is way too smart and way too experienced dealing with the media to do this for attention. Surly she knew this was not going to go down well with international media and i believe she must have done it for a good reason, not a narcissistic one. As for Britney eclipsing Madonna's legacy if she hadn't gone off the rails, I don't think she would have by any means, but hey it's just my opinion. |
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