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Old 13-06-2012, 15:25   #26
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I saw that on twitter, usual practice I would think by all parties. They need to get to the bottom who is leaking this stuff.
Not at all...the more people who know this kind of thing goes on the better..I think the current word for it is "transparency"
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Old 13-06-2012, 15:27   #27
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Not at all...the more people who know this kind of thing goes on the better..I think the current word for it is "transparency"
Or they leave it on the photocopier like Diane Abbott did, allegedly.
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Old 13-06-2012, 15:27   #28
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I think the current word for it is "transparency"
That should be "leaked transparency" which is somewhat different.
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Old 13-06-2012, 15:27   #29
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Under normal circumstances it is not allowed. Certain words are considered unparliamentary and must be withdrawn. Failure to withdraw means getting thrown out, to sit on the naughty step for a while. Truth doesn't enter into it.

I'm assuming you were serious husted?
I'm never completely serious.
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Old 13-06-2012, 15:29   #30
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Or they leave it on the photocopier like Diane Abbott did, allegedly.
Wasn't there something found in the Commons bar as well?
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Old 13-06-2012, 15:30   #31
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Wasn't there something found in the Commons bar as well?
500 MPs perhaps

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...n/16/labour.uk
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Old 13-06-2012, 15:32   #32
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I'm never completely serious.
I had wondered
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Old 13-06-2012, 15:34   #33
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That's it...thanks
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Old 13-06-2012, 15:39   #34
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Or they leave it on the photocopier like Diane Abbott did, allegedly.
Or accidentally point EU briefings at cameras like Caroline Flint did.
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Wasn't there something found in the Commons bar as well?
It was handed in and reclaimed by Mrs. Bercow but was minus the batteries.
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Old 13-06-2012, 15:43   #36
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Or accidentally point EU briefings at cameras like Caroline Flint did.
To be honest I don't look at what CF is carrying in her hands when I see on TV. Totally inappropriate of me I know. But that's life.
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Old 13-06-2012, 15:49   #37
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The chamber is very empty. Would it be unParliamentary to ponder that the other 500 odd MPs are throwing subsidised drink and food down their necks in the various bars and restaurants in the Palace?
Gosh what a cynical comment!
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Old 13-06-2012, 15:58   #38
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Gosh what a cynical comment!
Sorry. Sometimes my cynicism gets the better of me.
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:03   #39
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Sir George Young(Leader of the House) speaking. Singles out Bryant for lowering the tone of the debate and doing nothing for the image of Parliament. Asks Bryant to consider what he said. And maybe he will withdraw the comments sometime soon.
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:07   #40
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Later on Bryant asks to interrupt Young. Permission not given. Bryant persists. Bryant told by the deputy speaker to sit down.
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:09   #41
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I think he is a brilliant speaker. He has transformed the workings of the house.
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:09   #42
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Bryant responds. Refuses to withdraw. Accuses Hunt of deliberately misleading Parliament. Uses the lie word again.
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:13   #43
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DIVISION CLEAR THE LOBBY!!!

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The deputy speaker shouts this. Not me being impolite I would like to stress.
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:13   #44
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Isn't it re-assuring...how MPs from all parties almost trip themselves up in their collective rush to the gutter.
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:15   #45
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Isn't it re-assuring...how MPs from all parties almost trip themselves up in their collective rush to the gutter.
Pretty shabby from the MPs really.

Result expected at 16:27.
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:20   #46
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Pretty shabby from the MPs really.

Result expected at 16:27.
Live coverage of Parliament should be compulsory and fixed on all TV's in public places (no live football etc) and there should be a compulsory one hour of things like PMQ's on every TV channel every day.

They'd have to introduce compulsory voting to get anyone to ever turn out ever again
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:22   #47
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Seems the LibDems are narked because Cameron cleared Hunt without discussing the matter with Clegg and other senior LibDem MPs. As well as thinking the Hunt matter should be referred to the Sir Alex.
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:27   #48
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Live coverage of Parliament should be compulsory and fixed on all TV's in public places (no live football etc) and there should be a compulsory one hour of things like PMQ's on every TV channel every day.

They'd have to introduce compulsory voting to get anyone to ever turn out ever again
I've stopped watching PMQs to be honest. I find the whole lot so maddening.

On the other hand I think Ed Miliband was convincing at Leveson. OK. I don't think he is PM material yet. He needs a few more miles under his belt. But I can see him getting there. Two more years in opposition will do him a world of good IMO. But in the Commons in PMQs I can't stand him. Or any of the others.

Motion defeated.
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:31   #49
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The reaction is incredible. Bercow allowed it as it was permitted under the terms of the debate. Yet still people throw their dummies out.


'To me it didn't seem fair'

With respect HoC procedure isn't dependant on partisan reaction from random members of the public. I think we trust the speaker and the advisors to know Parliamentary procedure better than any of us. Especially more so than those claiming the speaker is biased on the basis that 'they didn't like it'. It really is child-like stuff this.
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Old 13-06-2012, 16:32   #50
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But I can see him getting there.

Motion defeated.
He's Tony Benn mark 2.

Why?? Pathetic!!! Our parliament has no guts.
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