[Zack06]

Originally Posted by KieranDS

Zack is this you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=MUzYhzr9sDc#!

No. But this girl is dead right.

[rose&ribbon]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

Couldn't we also say the same thing about the Spice Girls? All publicity, no talent (apart from Mel C). I know I use them a lot as a comparison, but would they really have been that massive if they hadn't been marketed to within an inch of their life?

They were all better singers than Biffa.

[AdzPower]

Originally Posted by Unigal07

Do you spend your whole life speaking positively and glowingly about everyone or do you ever discuss people you dislike?

Why would I waste my time on it?

[kutox]

Does it really need to be said yet again? Everyone knows it. I don't know why people still even bother to debate the issue as it's so bloody obvious.

And as for those who try and claim Cheryl is somehow a good singer or talented - I just ignore them. They're deluded. And if anyone gives it the 'music is subjective' rhetoric, I don't care because it really means naff all in this case - Cheryl Cole is a talentless singer with rubbish songs. It's as simple as that, however 'subjective' music may be. But then her team know that, but they also know she will sell because of her celebrity fame. Coincidence?

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by rose&ribbon

They were all better singers than Biffa.

You're joking right? Posh and Geri even sounded awful on CD, I'll never forget Geri's 'voice' on Lift Me Up - embarrassing

[jackbell]

Originally Posted by d56

Hows it jealousy? Its called being FAIR, as i've explained in a previous post.

This a thread about "It's not fair; Alexandra is a better singer, but her career is in the dumper and yet Cheryl's number one, so I'll make a thread about my feelings to make me feel better". Be honest.

That feeling, that's jealousy that is.

[Willard]

I'm not a Cheryl fan but if you want to succeed in life you team up with people.

You don't build your own house, you trust a team of builders and to build it and you get an estate agent to do all the work in getting the house.

If you want to cook a meal you don't go out and kill the animals and grow all the ingredients etc.

So, Cheryl works with other people? So what, nearly all (proper) musicians do...because not everyone, even the most talented people are good at everything, they know they have to hand it to other people at times. It's not her fault others are struggling, she's not going into their lives and sending them death threats if they try and make a success of life.

One time Cheryl was an ordinary girl who went for an audition and she did well, she learned her GA songs, she learned to dance, she became skillful at being an entertainer and had successful relationships dealing with others - whether you (or even I, like it) or not she's got talent to pull that off, even I struggle to do some of the things she can do.

I also don't think it matters, people who enjoy certain music were artists wire their own stuff wont be drawn to Cheryl, her fans are people who like light hearted music.

[my name is joe]

Cheryl annoys the f*** out of the Daily Mail readers. Surely that alone is enough to wish her continued success

[Unigal07]

Originally Posted by AdzPower

Why would I waste my time on it?

So you've never disliked anybody or spoken negatively about anybody or anything? Wow. That's something.

[gemhud]

The simple fact is alexandra burkes fans have abandoned her. Its not cheryls fault people seem to forget cheryl helped alexandra get a record deal in the first place!

[d56]

Originally Posted by jackbell

This a thread about "It's not fair; Alexandra is a better singer, but her career is in the dumper and yet Cheryl's number one, so I'll make a thread about my feelings to make me feel better". Be honest.

That feeling, that's jealousy that is.

Grown up, I used Alexandra as an example.

What about all the talented musicians who actually have talent, who can't get a record deal or can't get anyone to hear them. Why is it fair Cole gets to work with the best in the business. Surely you need talent?

[Zack06]

Originally Posted by gemhud

The simple fact is alexandra burkes fans have abandoned her. Its not cheryls fault people seem to forget cheryl helped alexandra get a record deal in the first place!

Alexandra was going to the lives whether Cheryl was her mentor or not. And Stevie Wonder offered her a record deal when she was 12, so don't act like she's only successful because of Cheryl.

[Tiki - Taka]

Originally Posted by d56

Grown up, I used Alexandra as an example.

What about all the talented musicians who actually have talent, who can't get a record deal or can't get anyone to hear them. Why is it fair Cole gets to work with the best in the business. Surely you need talent?

Life isn't fair...

It's pretty simple... Record labels don't look to sign the most talented - they look to sign the guys who will make them the most money.

[gemhud]

Originally Posted by Zack06

Alexandra was going to the lives whether Cheryl was her mentor or not. And Stevie Wonder offered her a record deal when she was 12, so don't act like she's only successful because of Cheryl.

Didn't say it was all cheryl but alot of her fanbase voted for alexandra to win 2008 and alot probably bought the 1st album

[jackbell]

Originally Posted by d56

Grown up, I used Alexandra as an example.

What about all the talented musicians who actually have talent, who can't get a record deal or can't get anyone to hear them. Why is it fair Cole gets to work with the best in the business. Surely you need talent?

Well, that's showbiz!

Look, I'm not being purposely unkind but that's the way the chips fall sometimes. I just think that if Alex's record had done what her fans hoped it would - and even a couple of weeks ago I was reading how posters were suggesting the album could get to number one - you wouldn't have been remotely interested in Cheryl Cole's chart success.

You should put your energies into the acts you like, rather than waste them on negative threads about an artist you don't like.

I don't care for the Beiber kid and I loathe that Gaga woman but I wouldn't dream of making up a thread about them.

[Chip Popple]

Originally Posted by gemhud

Didn't say it was all cheryl but alot of her fanbase voted for alexandra to win 2008 and alot probably bought the 1st album

I agree with you there, same as a lot of Dannii's fans voted for Matt Cardle.

[LunarLegend]

Originally Posted by

Has anyone heard Cheryl live? (WARNING - earplugs may be needed) [url

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcgK2fIHf9E[/url]

This was another one you will need earplugs for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koUaS1mplYs

[jediknight2k1]

Originally Posted by LunarLegend

This was another one you will need earplugs for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koUaS1mplYs

I've heard from more established artists such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_esOVRCDpM

I mean people will bash Cherl when it's obvious there is far worse out there

[MrMeatAndPotato]

Paul McCartney is 69 years old... so that's a pretty poor example, but you're right in a sense that there are worse out there.

[CocaCLaus]

Why are people like you obsessed with her then? If you dont like her dont talk about her..the fact her career makes so many of yous angry is proof that yous have bought into her as well.

If you dont like her fine, but there is no need to begrudge her success.

[I IZ Ghetto]

Originally Posted by Chip Popple

I agree with you there, same as a lot of Dannii's fans voted for Matt Cardle.

You're funny

[SCDchick]

Originally Posted by d56

Some people have been quick to say that the success of Cheryl Cole's new song proves she "doesn't need the X Factor" for promotion.

I feel this is a ridiculous point. Ms Cole is in every single newspaper, every single day. On twitter, I don't even follow her fans, just general news sites and for the past week it has been Cheryl story after Cheryl story. First she agrees with gay marriage, then she says she would of gone hungry as a teenager if it had of been the pasty tax then. WHO CARES?

I feel sorry for someone like Alexandra Burke for example. Whatever you think of her, she can SING. She works hard, puts the hours in and is talented. She gets completley snubbed by radio and people are quick to call her a flop. Her new album sounds better than Cheryl's, but because of Cheryl's publicity team, her music is selling.

Has anyone heard Cheryl live? (WARNING - earplugs may be needed) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcgK2fIHf9E

If you heard THAT is a bar on a night out, you'd walk straight out or ask for a double. She wouldn't make it through one round on X Factor, yet in the papers she is treated like gods gift.

I think Its a joke that someone who doesn't write there own music, doesn't play instruments and can't sing, gets success, just because of their PR team/press obsession.

So whatever you say, please don't make out like Cheryl has had success on her own musical talent, she's nothing but a walking attention seeker. If she wasn't, she wouldn't need all the insane press, her talent would do the talking.

A very valid point you make. I really dont know how she was able to get in a recording studio in the first place. That video makes me cringe, it just sums up exactly what it is all about. She is a media tart masquerading as a singer, see the bit where she looks to the sound guy at the back twice during the performance. And all the bull about that she is hottest woman in the world, i have seen better looking people in `real life`

A bit tiresome to see the `youre just jealous of her `comments. Just ignore them. What is she, a princess or something? She is just a girl who got lucky for having no talent, and is extremely over hyped

[CocaCLaus]

A bit tiresome to see the `youre just jealous of her `comments. Just ignore them. What is she, a princess or something? She is just a girl who got lucky for having no talent, and is extremely over hyped[/quote]



in fairness its a bit tiresome to see the constant hate threads from people who claim 'not to care' about her.

[SCDchick]

Originally Posted by habanala

She won a TALENT contest, she spent years doing arena tours SINGING LIVE, She is a great dancer and people like her personality. She also makes songs that people like! Listen to her performance of Set the fire to the third bar with snow patrol then say she has no talent whatsoever. Yes the jubilee performance was awful but so was everyone else.
You alex burke fans really need to get a life! Her new music is shite that is why she isnt being played! I cant believe the UK is being accused of racism despite the fact alex's last album sold over 800,000 copies and she was the most played artist on radio. Accept she has flopped and get over it!

OK.COM thank you.

Oh give over, typical cheryl fan

We are not all Alex fans, i am not an Alex fan but i know she has a brilliant voice

[SCDchick]

Gosh i cannot watch anymore of those clips of her singing, it is cringey beyond belief. Don`t get me wrong, i thought she was good in girls aloud and that is where she belongs, as part of that girl group. I think she got too big for her boots. She comes across as arrogant and big headed and that is mostly why i dont like her. She needs to get back to girls aloud