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Why do you think Cheryl's solo career took off & Victoria Beckhams didn't?
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Chip Popple
14-06-2012
Originally Posted by Metal Mickey:
“VB famously turned down "Can't Get You Outta My Head", because "there wasn't a song there" - double ouch!

As for Geri Halliwell, she was the biggest solo Spice Girl, despite having the least talent, because (paraphrasing from memory from John Niven's musicbiz novel "Kill Your Friends") "Geri would swim a mile through shark-infested HIV-positive sperm just to do a 3-minute phone interview with Radio Leeds..."”


I love this comment - particularly the part about Ginger
Chip Popple
14-06-2012
Originally Posted by Rotationbl:
“That's hardly every detail ”


So we should be grateful that she keeps her children out of the limelight? Every good parent would do that, big deal. Mind you, hasn't Harper got a handbag named after her

But the Beckhams are fame whores, and say otherwise is laughable. The Olympics, Pepsi, Posh's clothing range, Adidas, his and her fragrance, many magazine shoots, H&M, having Eva Longoria as Harper's godmother (yes she's friends with Posh but she's also a very famous actress).
plankwalker
14-06-2012
Victoria has clearly different priorities and is highly successful in the various business ventures she has entered. She is not shallow, is loyal, can keep her man and is a good Mum, plus has every right to use the Beckham name.

As to singing, neither have any real vocal talent. Cheryl did a Cheryl and ensured her singing career, by hoping over to Simon when the time was right.
Chip Popple
14-06-2012
Originally Posted by plankwalker:
“Victoria has clearly different priorities and is highly successful in the various business ventures she has entered. She is not shallow, is loyal, can keep her man and is a good Mum, plus has every right to use the Beckham name.

As to singing, neither have any real vocal talent. Cheryl did a Cheryl and ensured her singing career, by hoping over to Simon when the time was right.”



Hasn't stopped her husband shagging around though ALLEGEDLY...............................

I mean, didn't he 'sleep' with the children's nanny?
vkmax
14-06-2012
X Factor didn't exist in 2001 and nobody knew or cared who Simon Cowell was
plankwalker
14-06-2012
Originally Posted by Chip Popple:
“Hasn't stopped her husband shagging around though ALLEGEDLY...............................

I mean, didn't he 'sleep' with the children's nanny?”

He has ben known to kick a ball around too. Victoria is loyal.
Chip Popple
14-06-2012
Originally Posted by vkmax:
“X Factor didn't exist in 2001 and nobody knew or cared who Simon Cowell was”

Victoria was one of the Spice Girls and was married to one of the most famous footballers on the planet though.
plankwalker
14-06-2012
Originally Posted by vkmax:
“X Factor didn't exist in 2001 and nobody knew or cared who Simon Cowell was”

Yes, now he is all powerful and not a bad person to hook in to, sould you,just happen to have aspirations way beyond ability..
Hav_mor91
14-06-2012
Simon Cowell simple he put her on the x factor and promoted her to the max.

Secondly he husband cheating on her did her wonders gave her sympathy vote.

Simon screwing her over on the x factor US again poor Cheryl.

And Will.I.Am doing anything he can to promote her.

Simply put pr, scandal, using the right people, and not much in the way of musical talent
Chip Popple
15-06-2012
Originally Posted by plankwalker:
“He has ben known to kick a ball around too. Victoria is loyal.”

What does his profession have to do with his alleged infidelity?

You call Posh loyal, when it comes to Brand Beckham she'll ignore his affairs.
big dan
15-06-2012
Originally Posted by plankwalker:
“Victoria has clearly different priorities and is highly successful in the various business ventures she has entered. She is not shallow, is loyal, can keep her man and is a good Mum, plus has every right to use the Beckham name.

As to singing, neither have any real vocal talent. Cheryl did a Cheryl and ensured her singing career, by hoping over to Simon when the time was right.”

I hope I'm wrong, but you seem to be implying either that it's Cheryl's fault that her husband strayed, or that she is at fault for not forgiving him and playing the 'dutiful wife'?
Chip Popple
15-06-2012
Originally Posted by big dan:
“I hope I'm wrong, but you seem to be implying either that it's Cheryl's fault that her husband strayed, or that she is at fault for not forgiving him and playing the 'dutiful wife'?”

Exactly. When she did give Ashley another chance, she was criticised and mocked.
LynxSoldier
15-06-2012
While Cheryl doesn't have the best voice, she is capable of far more technically than Victoria, not mention she is an excellent dancer and extremely likeable. Possibly she has the X Factor...too cheesy?

Cheryl's voice is underrated. With the right song she sounds great. She's not Mariah, or even a Rihanna, but she has enough of a voice, more than the average girl off the street. Good vibrato, melisma. Her weak spot is her range. Her voice on Set Fire to the Third Bar with Snow Patrol was perfect.
Canks
15-06-2012
Cheryl is likeable, talented, sweet natured and beautiful.
XFactorFanatic1
15-06-2012
Becuse where Cheryl was duetting with Will.I.Am, Victoria was duetting with Global Superstar and king of music, Dane Bowers.
XFactorFanatic1
15-06-2012
Cheryl can crack a smile.
Canks
15-06-2012
Victoria should crack a smile and a while. By behaving in this sultry manner, she has isolated potential fans. Say what you want about Cheryl but she has a beautiful smile which is always present even in the difficulties she has gone through.
Carly_Thompson
15-06-2012
Cheryl had stronger material, a massive platform to promote herself on every week, and Cheryl probably appeared more down to earth and genuine. Victoria Beckham had this "posh" image, and image she still has today and people find it hard to relate to that and find her cold and unlikable.
boysforpele
15-06-2012
Interestingly, on the last tour it was Victoria and Geri who stood out as something special. Emma was consistent. Surprisingly, Mel C s vocals were either great or really off key/ annoying and Mel B was just too try hard and vocally weak.
thejoyof_pat
15-06-2012
I always preferred Out of your mind over any Cheryl's singles. Loved that song.
essexpete
15-06-2012
I remember liking Not Such An Innocent Girl when I heard it
BadRomance
15-06-2012
Originally Posted by spm2012:
“Both seem similar to me in alot of ways

Both from girlbands
Both married a footballer
Both have rather weak voices

I just always associate them with each other for some reason, not sure why. Obviously Cheryl had the advantage of being on The X Factor and doesn't appear as moody as Victoria.”

The X Factor - Cheryl would be a nobody without it
Cosya
16-06-2012
VB thought she was all that and took for granted that she would get a number one.

Along came Kylie, no attitude, no expectations, BOOOM blew sour puss right out of the water!!!
gpk
16-06-2012
Originally Posted by Cosya:
“VB thought she was all that and took for granted that she would get a number one.

Along came Kylie, no attitude, no expectations, BOOOM blew sour puss right out of the water!!!”

not quite, she had her steep learning curve a year earlier in the form of groovejet by spiller featuring sophie ellis-bextor. `desperate` screamed the headlines when she went on a promotional spree of record signings with her husband in tow.

i also remember this unfortunate story. `The Sun 2000-08-22: A MYSTERY woman bought THIRTY-FOUR copies of Posh Spice's single at a Woolworth's branch near the star's home. The fan spent £80 on cassettes of Out Of Your Mind. Then she went back to the store in Waltham Cross, Herts, the next day and got ANOTHER batch, sparking suspicions that she was trying to rig the charts. Posh failed to hit No1 on Sunday despite a massive sales drive. Now the hunt is on for the fan who got 34 tapes in her first swoop and a load more the next day. She cleared shelves packed with cassettes of the song last Friday and Saturday`.
plankwalker
16-06-2012
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“Simon Cowell simple he put her on the x factor and promoted her to the max.

Secondly he husband cheating on her did her wonders gave her sympathy vote.

Simon screwing her over on the x factor US again poor Cheryl.

And Will.I.Am doing anything he can to promote her.

Simply put pr, scandal, using the right people, and not much in the way of musical talent”

Correct and to the point. Cheyl is loyal to herself and deliberate, if not cold calculating in her moves. Not many brides move their Mum into the marital home, although those with little money, are sometimes forced by circumstances to live with their parents.
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