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Old 14-06-2012, 20:30
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I am hoping to get ipad 2 soon and have seen on the pc world that they have 2nd and 3rd Gen ones but what is that difference between the 2?
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Old 14-06-2012, 20:30
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Have a look here:

http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/
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Old 14-06-2012, 20:52
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very little for the average user
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Old 14-06-2012, 20:57
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No! wrong!! definitely definitely if you are going to get one, get the 3. What will happen is very soon, stuff will come out that doesn't run very well on the 2, because it's all designed for/on and tested on the increased power of the iPad 3. And then Apple will release updates with a) stuff that doesn't work on the 2, and b) other stuff that will run on the 2 but because it is running, the rest of the 2 runs like a dog.

I made the same mistake when the iphone 3gs came out, and bought a 3g for a saving of about £100. I was advised the difference to the average user was minimal, but never thought about the lower power CPU causing a problem.

I also immediately bought an iPad 1 when it came out and now it's totally useless because the latest iOS has made it run as slow as a very dead tortoise. (okay it's not totally useless but it's exceptionally annoying to use, which is the opposite of what an iPad is supposed to be about)

By buying the 3 you give yourself the chance of making it last probably a year or two longer than if you buy the 2 now.

In addition, and this IS a personal opinion, the screen on the ipad 3 is LOOOOOVERLLYY!
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Old 14-06-2012, 21:02
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No! wrong!! definitely definitely if you are going to get one, get the 3. What will happen is very soon, stuff will come out that doesn't run very well on the 2, because it's all designed for/on and tested on the increased power of the iPad 3. And then Apple will release updates with a) stuff that doesn't work on the 2, and b) other stuff that will run on the 2 but because it is running, the rest of the 2 runs like a dog.

I made the same mistake when the iphone 3gs came out, and bought a 3g for a saving of about £100. I was advised the difference to the average user was minimal, but never thought about the lower power CPU causing a problem.

I also immediately bought an iPad 1 when it came out and now it's totally useless because the latest iOS has made it run as slow as a very dead tortoise. (okay it's not totally useless but it's exceptionally annoying to use, which is the opposite of what an iPad is supposed to be about)

By buying the 3 you give yourself the chance of making it last probably a year or two longer than if you buy the 2 now.

In addition, and this IS a personal opinion, the screen on the ipad 3 is LOOOOOVERLLYY!
Agreed with this
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Old 14-06-2012, 21:05
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For me, an iPad 2 user there is very little imo worth upgrading - but by god I'd love that new screen.

However, I always say if you're in the market for one always buy the one your budget will allow as it will no doubt last longer.
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Old 14-06-2012, 21:19
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A much nicer screen and an extra year of updates from Apple. Well worth the £70 when you are already spending so much.
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Old 14-06-2012, 21:58
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I was using a PC with windows 98 until 2008. If these Apple products have as much of a shelf life as some of the posters would suggest, I'd steer well clear and choose something with Linux / Windows.

Yes the ipad 1 is slow on a newer operating system, but can't you stick with the operating system it came with? The product is 2 years old for god sake. And its mainly for surfing the net, email, and apps that you hardly use and angry birds. You can't play top of the range games on it.

If you have plenty of money to burn then go ahead with you ipad. If you want a solid investment thats going to last you a few years then go with something else.
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Old 14-06-2012, 22:44
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There are plenty of "top of the range games" for the iPad. It's not all about playing Angry Birds...


As for Linux/Windows - Hardly a viable option when considering tablets.

As for Android (which unlike Linux or Windows is a viable option), the same situation exists there: older devices cannot run newer versions of the OS, etc. Plus of course the high end Android tablets cost around the same as the iPad (apart from the ones that had price cuts due to being failures), so it's not really a case of "money to burn". Unlike other Apple products, the iPad is priced very well.


OP:

Have a read of this recent thread - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1671515

and regarding 2 vs 3, see here onwards in that thread - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...3#post58799023
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Old 14-06-2012, 23:13
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very little for the average user
Unless the average user is blind of course.

In answer to the OP - some people will say the screen on the iPad 3 is incredible. Others (perhaps people who haven't even seen it) will say you can hardly notice the difference.

I would say, if you can, look at them both side by side, and I'd bet my bottom dollar you'll notice a huge difference.

Incidentally, Siri will be available on the iPad 3 when iOS6 comes out in Sep/Oct time.
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Old 15-06-2012, 02:32
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Will all Apps work with the ipad 3?

Think i will pay the extra £70 just to be on the safe side.
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Old 15-06-2012, 07:31
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Will all Apps work with the ipad 3?

Think i will pay the extra £70 just to be on the safe side.
All apps will work on the iPad 3
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Old 15-06-2012, 09:52
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I echo pretty much all the other posters. As an iPad 2 owner, there is little in the iPad 3 that makes it a worthwhile update for me.

However as you this is your first iPad you should get the new iPad if funds allow, otherwise you may find yourself wanting to replace it when the iPad 4 comes out next year. Plus as others have said, you will benefit from more features in iOS6 when it is released (or now if you are a dev or know one) such as Siri
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Old 15-06-2012, 11:00
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That's a fair point about it being your first one. I never understand all the stuff on the net about how its hardly worth upgrading from model x to model x+1. When did it become routine to do so? If I but a bit of kit like a computer or an iPad, I expect it to last for at least 4-5 years!
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Old 17-06-2012, 07:35
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For me, an iPad 2 user there is very little imo worth upgrading - but by god I'd love that new screen.

However, I always say if you're in the market for one always buy the one your budget will allow as it will no doubt last longer.
The iPad 3 also has twice the ram, a better cellular radio, even you are in a country still using 3G and Bluetooth 4, not to mention that awesome screen. And as others have said you are more future proof with the iPad 3.

One final thing, if buying new the iPad 2 is only available as wifi 16gig.
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Old 17-06-2012, 07:44
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That's a fair point about it being your first one. I never understand all the stuff on the net about how its hardly worth upgrading from model x to model x+1. When did it become routine to do so? If I but a bit of kit like a computer or an iPad, I expect it to last for at least 4-5 years!
The pace of advancement of the hardware of tablets far exceeds the pace of computers so, at least for the foreseeable future, the lifespan of use, as it relates to supporting future apps, will not be anywhere near 4-5 yrs. Eventually things may settle down if battery technology can not keep up.

I am still using the iPad 1 and for my uses it still functions just fine but many new apps would struggle to function well on it as they simply would be demanding too much of it.
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Old 18-06-2012, 16:40
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While I like Apple products - their easy of use and build quality, they do drop support for older devices quicker than other manufacturers.

Look at the iPad 1 for instance, iOS 6 won't work on it, yet the iPad 1 is just over two years old! So based on that fact, I personally would always go with the latest Apple release, that way, it'll have the longest lifespan.

I was going to get an iPad 2 before Christmas but remembered about the Apple release schedules for the iPads, so waited and got myself an iPad (3rd Gen) at launch. Its brilliant and the screen is great, much better than the iPad 2's I've seen on display in the shops.
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Old 18-06-2012, 17:08
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While I like Apple products - their easy of use and build quality, they do drop support for older devices quicker than other manufacturers.

Look at the iPad 1 for instance, iOS 6 won't work on it, yet the iPad 1 is just over two years old! So based on that fact, I personally would always go with the latest Apple release, that way, it'll have the longest lifespan.

I was going to get an iPad 2 before Christmas but remembered about the Apple release schedules for the iPads, so waited and got myself an iPad (3rd Gen) at launch. Its brilliant and the screen is great, much better than the iPad 2's I've seen on display in the shops.
Is the Android alternative any better at support for older tablets?
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Old 18-06-2012, 17:56
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Is the Android alternative any better at support for older tablets?
While I've never owned an Android device, I understand its up to the manufacturer of the phone/tablet to release the OS for their device so they might not bother with older products.

For instance, a lot of Android phones and tablets are not yet running Android 4.0 despite it being released late last year
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Old 18-06-2012, 19:23
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While I've never owned an Android device, I understand its up to the manufacturer of the phone/tablet to release the OS for their device so they might not bother with older products.
Yup. With Apple, it controls the hardware and software, so *everyone* gets the latest version directly from Apple at the same time (unless their device is too old, of course).

With Android, you have to rely on the manufacturer, e.g. Samsung has to do its own version with "TouchWiz" on top, or HTC has to do its own version with "HTC Sense" on top. With phones, it may also be the case that you have to wait for the carrier, too, like in the bad old days of Symbian on Nokias [I don't have an Android device myself, so I'm not sure on this]. Of course, you can root your device, and install a stock version of Android, but that's not something that most users would bother doing (or know how to do).

As with iOS, older devices may get left behind. I don't see a problem with this. It happens in other areas. Supporting legacy devices holds things back. It's just that phone & tablet tech moves on faster so older hardware gets dropped quicker than with PCs.

Back in May 2011, Google promised that new devices from certain partners (manufacturers and carriers) would get Android updates for 18 months after launch (subject to hardware support), so that's no better than Apple dropping support for the iPad 1 with iOS6 (worse, even, as the iPad 1 will be 2.5 years old by the time iOS 6 is out).

http://www.theverge.com/2011/05/10/g...tes-18-months/

For instance, a lot of Android phones and tablets are not yet running Android 4.0 despite it being released late last year
Google itself says that only 7.1% of Android devices (phones and tablets) are actually running Android 4 (Ice Cream Sandwich).

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/2/305...oefully-behind
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Old 19-06-2012, 00:14
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I do agree with a lot of the posts on here

1) if you have a 2, the 3 is not much of an upgrade
2) it is not a crime that the ipad 1 has been dropped from support, I was totally completely happy with the (non-multitasking) version it came with. But it is a crime that the latest supported OS runs like a dog. If you update, you're stuck with it. Downgrading again is not an option apple provide (unless you JB).
3) Definitely always get the latest at the time you want to buy. You'll get left behind later.
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