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Old 16-11-2004, 13:49
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Since Saturday a lot of people on this forum have gone over the top on Tabby, slamming his performance and slagging him off personally. You are all missing the point, he does not have to be the greatest singer. He is not aspireing to be the next Will Young or Mariah Carey. This show is not about being the best singer, it is funnily enough, about having the X-factor.

Tabby is a rock vocalist, all the other artists on this show are vocally stronger than Bono, Mick Jagger, Anthony Kiedis ,Liam Gallagher etc. The point is they all sound good and have got great stage presence. Though lacking vocally to the other contestants, Tabby is far superior when it comes down to the stage presence ranks.

Other people slated Tabby for the whole seeing his son scenario, saying it reminded you of a politician looking for votes. What else was tabby going to do, tell his son to go away? Sharon arranged it. And also, Tabby does not edit the show.

wake up people! tabby has got the X- factor, just face it.
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Old 16-11-2004, 13:52
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Originally Posted by SRFC
This show is not about being the best singer, it is funnily enough, about having the X-factor.
tabby has got the X- factor, just face it.
But everyone has a different idea of what the 'X Factor' is! It is totally subjective, and not definable. Probably the reason for all the arguments on this board
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Old 16-11-2004, 13:56
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Originally Posted by SRFC
Since Saturday a lot of people on this forum have gone over the top on Tabby, slamming his performance and slagging him off personally. You are all missing the point, he does not have to be the greatest singer. He is not aspireing to be the next Will Young or Mariah Carey. This show is not about being the best singer, it is funnily enough, about having the X-factor.

Tabby is a rock vocalist, all the other artists on this show are vocally stronger than Bono, Mick Jagger, Anthony Kiedis ,Liam Gallagher etc. The point is they all sound good and have got great stage presence. Though lacking vocally to the other contestants, Tabby is far superior when it comes down to the stage presence ranks.

Other people slated Tabby for the whole seeing his son scenario, saying it reminded you of a politician looking for votes. What else was tabby going to do, tell his son to go away? Sharon arranged it. And also, Tabby does not edit the show.

wake up people! tabby has got the X- factor, just face it.
all the above artists can at least sing in tune, to compare what tabby did on saturday is crackers. imo he needs to sing a track on saturday that hasn't been "dumbed down" to cater for his lack of vocal talent, just to prove he can provide the whole package.
p.s. i agree with you about the sympathy stuff though i'm certain sharon orchestrated the whole stunt, convincing him it will be great tv. imo she has let him down....tabby is more than a sympathy vote.
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Old 16-11-2004, 14:01
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I don't think Tabby has any stage presence at all and he is completely incapable of holding a tune. I would rather Simon Cowell bring back Michelle Mcmanus to do a strip tease then have to endure another one of Tabby's "performances" on Saturday.
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Old 16-11-2004, 14:06
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I don't think Tabby has any stage presence at all and he is completely incapable of holding a tune. I would rather Simon Cowell bring back Michelle Mcmanus to do a strip tease then have to endure another one of Tabby's "performances" on Saturday.
Do you mind, I am eating my lunch!!!
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Old 16-11-2004, 14:06
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Tabby is weak vocally.
Why then did Sharon pick a song that required a great vocal performance ?

That was a love song not a dance track, energy and stage presence should play not part in that tune.

It was poor, but not as poor as all 3 judges saying it was great.
He is like that Peter guy off Lame Academy, no vocal skills just bounce around the stage.
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Old 16-11-2004, 14:18
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Originally Posted by SRFC
Since Saturday a lot of people on this forum have gone over the top on Tabby, slamming his performance and slagging him off personally. You are all missing the point, he does not have to be the greatest singer. He is not aspireing to be the next Will Young or Mariah Carey. This show is not about being the best singer, it is funnily enough, about having the X-factor.

Tabby is a rock vocalist, all the other artists on this show are vocally stronger than Bono, Mick Jagger, Anthony Kiedis ,Liam Gallagher etc. The point is they all sound good and have got great stage presence. Though lacking vocally to the other contestants, Tabby is far superior when it comes down to the stage presence ranks.
My sentiments exactly SRFC - the show was designed to find someone with that elusive X-Factor. Right on the first audition show, the judges were asked to mention people who have the X-Factor and Madonna, Mick Jagger, Robbie Williams and Elton John were all named - none of whom are the most wonderful singers (IMHO) in the world - but they have the charisma/stage presence/air about them that makes them unforgettable and leaves the audience wanting more.

However, I will admit that like beauty - the X-Factor is in the eye of the beholder - so it can be very much down to personal taste. For instance I can accept that Will Young can hold a tune, but I really don't get that he's that interesting to watch perform (in fact I find him really boring) - but he's obviously got something that I'm not in tune with.

What I would like to say about Tabby is that all three judges seem to be spellbound by him - he hasn't received a negative comment (apart from too much eyeliner
:yawn: ) as yet, and also the other contestants seem to be impressed with him too.

As for the daft comments about the fact that him seeing his baby over the weekend was a publicity stunt - no doubt those same posters would be accusing him of neglecting the child if the reunion had not been televised. Think some people are just scared of Tabby's popularity that they are clutching at very tenuous straws to try and discredit him.
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Old 16-11-2004, 14:39
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Originally Posted by SRFC
Since Saturday a lot of people on this forum have gone over the top on Tabby, slamming his performance and slagging him off personally. You are all missing the point, he does not have to be the greatest singer. He is not aspireing to be the next Will Young or Mariah Carey. This show is not about being the best singer, it is funnily enough, about having the X-factor.

Tabby is a rock vocalist, all the other artists on this show are vocally stronger than Bono, Mick Jagger, Anthony Kiedis ,Liam Gallagher etc. The point is they all sound good and have got great stage presence. Though lacking vocally to the other contestants, Tabby is far superior when it comes down to the stage presence ranks.

Other people slated Tabby for the whole seeing his son scenario, saying it reminded you of a politician looking for votes. What else was tabby going to do, tell his son to go away? Sharon arranged it. And also, Tabby does not edit the show.

wake up people! tabby has got the X- factor, just face it.
You've hit the nail right on the head SRFC. A lot of posters seem to think this competition is solely about singing and I've tried to point out a couple of times that it's also about presence, charisma and the ability to interact with the audience and at least produce some sort of reaction. Some of the vocalists on this show may be technically superior but their ability to entertain is zilch. I might listen to one track but the idea of a whole album of some of this pap would bore me beyond belief. I've downloaded Tabby's music files to listen more closely and I can't find anything wrong with his voice - exactly suited to the rock genre - so I can't quite get where people think he can't sing. At the end of the day it's all subjective so if your not rock orientated you won't get it.

The consensus is that Tabby has the young vote. Not totally true as I'm certainly not in that category and a lot of friends, who are still interested in music (despite our advanced age!) are all Tabby fans.
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Old 16-11-2004, 15:04
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Its true, people like different things. the truth is that Tabby can only be judged as a performer on this show, he cannot be judged as an artist. Tabby is also a musician and songwriter so we will have to wait and see what his stuff is like before deciding if he can cut cut it as a creditable performer.

As far as I am aware, the other contestants are all just singers, t.here songs are being written for them right now probably.

Tabby has more than one string to his bow.

IMO he has got stage presence, i have seen him perform live and it was rockin.
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Old 16-11-2004, 15:43
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IMO, Tabby can't sing, his visual performances are quite often cheesy and so OTT that they make him look like a real wannabe. He looks as though he fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. He's going for sympathy vote* (being away from his baby, if he was that bothered he would have stayed, i know if it was a choice between stardom and seeing my kid, the kid would win hands down). He is extremely over-hyped and over-publicised.

You can say he has the X Factor but I can't see it, he does nothing for me except make me reach for the remote. Watching Julian Clary poncing about on the dance floor is more entertainment than Tabby.

I'm sorry to people who don't agree with me but that is honestly what I think about young Trev.

*he isn't the only act to go for the sympathy vote, each judge did it. Simon with Verity (my husband crushed my dreams for stardom) and Louis with 2 To Go (This guy is blind..... Yeah Louis so are loadsa other people, whats your point?).
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Old 16-11-2004, 16:13
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I think that 'Tabby'/Trevor is one of the strongest singers in the competition - and it's Cassie who has the weakest voice. But, as this thread says - he is just 'one of those performers' that has that 'X-Factor'. Like him or not, he somehow keeps you watching!
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Old 16-11-2004, 16:14
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Originally Posted by dudeuk87
IMO, Tabby can't sing, his visual performances are quite often cheesy and so OTT that they make him look like a real wannabe. He looks as though he fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. He's going for sympathy vote* (being away from his baby, if he was that bothered he would have stayed, i know if it was a choice between stardom and seeing my kid, the kid would win hands down). He is extremely over-hyped and over-publicised.

You can say he has the X Factor but I can't see it, he does nothing for me except make me reach for the remote. Watching Julian Clary poncing about on the dance floor is more entertainment than Tabby.

I'm sorry to people who don't agree with me but that is honestly what I think about young Trev.

*he isn't the only act to go for the sympathy vote, each judge did it. Simon with Verity (my husband crushed my dreams for stardom) and Louis with 2 To Go (This guy is blind..... Yeah Louis so are loadsa other people, whats your point?).
The only bit I agree with there is 'IMO'. To which you are entitled, you don't like him, fine, you don't have to.

Calling him ugly, and accusing him of not being that bothered about being away from his baby, is just petty. Nothing to do with whether he's your cuppa or not.

I'm with stillrockin, I'm way past being a teenager and Tabby for me is watchable and well worth listening to.
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Old 16-11-2004, 16:18
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him of not being that bothered about being away from his baby, is just petty.
I never said he wasnt bothered, it would be impossible not to. But he makes out as if he can't cope with it, and he clearly is coping. And about him being ugly. In my opinion he really is, I just don't see the appeal at all.
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Old 16-11-2004, 16:22
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tabby is a pale imitation of a 70s throwback, he looks like a cobination of avril and shaz, all he needs now are some lepord skin tight pants and the picture will be complete
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Old 16-11-2004, 16:24
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Originally Posted by baileybots
tabby is a pale imitation of a 70s throwback, he looks like a cobination of avril and shaz, all he needs now are some lepord skin tight pants and the picture will be complete

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww thats put me off my tea!!
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Old 16-11-2004, 16:30
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Originally Posted by baileybots
tabby is a pale imitation of a 70s throwback, he looks like a cobination of avril and shaz, all he needs now are some lepord skin tight pants and the picture will be complete
totally agree bots...
i have a feeling he is the missing member of Mud, he even has the flicking of the head perfected. has he been frozen since the '70s in a lab somewhere ? imo he would be better suited to the miming that the glam rock groups did on tv, than his dreadful attempts at singing in tune.
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Old 16-11-2004, 16:35
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Originally Posted by nelly-j
totally agree bots...
i have a feeling he is the missing member of Mud, he even has the flicking of the head perfected. has he been frozen since the '70s in a lab somewhere ? imo he would be better suited to the miming that the glam rock groups did on tv, than his dreadful attempts at singing in tune.
the lead singer from Sweet, only with black hair, we have to feel sympathy for Sharon, is she trying to get her youth back?
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Old 16-11-2004, 16:36
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Originally Posted by dudeuk87
I never said he wasnt bothered, it would be impossible not to. But he makes out as if he can't cope with it, and he clearly is coping. And about him being ugly. In my opinion he really is, I just don't see the appeal at all.
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'being away from his baby, if he was that bothered he would have stayed'
Sounded like you were saying that to me.

I haven't seen him making out he can't cope. He's said he missed his son, he's reportedly been wandering around London alone because he's restless and can't stop thinking about his family, that hardly constitutes him not coping.

He's just being honest about his feeling whilst away from his family IMO. If he didn't mention them at all he would be being slated for being heartless and selfish.
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Old 16-11-2004, 16:38
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Originally Posted by baileybots
the lead singer from Sweet, only with black hair, we have to feel sympathy for Sharon, is she trying to get her youth back?
forgot about brian from the sweet. he had a great voice though, and boy , did i fancy him.
i think you may have the group right , but i would have said the one who wore the women's make-up and screeched "we just haven't got a clue what to do " is who tabby based himself on...even down to being the guitarist.
damn, now i've got the song stuck in my head
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Old 16-11-2004, 16:40
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He's just being honest about his feeling whilst away from his family IMO. If he didn't mention them at all he would be being slated for being heartless and selfish.
And being honest is parading the poor child in front of the cameras trying to gain votes for it?

"Ooh look at me I've had a hard life, I don't have work, I live with my mummy and now to gain even more of your sympathy votes I'm goin to walk around infront of cameras and show you all my 6month old baby"

Somebody pass me the shotgun....
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Old 16-11-2004, 16:49
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And being honest is parading the poor child in front of the cameras trying to gain votes for it?

"Ooh look at me I've had a hard life, I don't have work, I live with my mummy and now to gain even more of your sympathy votes I'm goin to walk around infront of cameras and show you all my 6month old baby"

Somebody pass me the shotgun....
IMO that was staged by Sharon, the judges are all guilty of using the sympathy angle for their acts.

I'm usually a very cynical soul, but when it comes to reality tv I've learned that the actual people participating have little or nothing to do with what we actually see, therefore I try not to judge them too harshly and keep my cynicism for those that are cashing in big time.
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Old 16-11-2004, 16:50
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Originally Posted by Kewpee
IMO that was staged by Sharon, the judges are all guilty of using the sympathy angle for their acts.

I'm usually a very cynical soul, but when it comes to reality tv I've learned that the actual people participating have little or nothing to do with what we actually see, therefore I try not to judge them too harshly and keep my cynicism for those that are cashing in big time.
lol, fair point. Still don't like the guy though
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Old 16-11-2004, 17:02
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Originally Posted by dudeuk87
And being honest is parading the poor child in front of the cameras trying to gain votes for it?

"Ooh look at me I've had a hard life, I don't have work, I live with my mummy and now to gain even more of your sympathy votes I'm goin to walk around infront of cameras and show you all my 6month old baby"

Somebody pass me the shotgun....
Ah now stop it!

You really think Tabby has enough clout to demand to the show producers/directors that they film him with his baby? Has it not occurred to you that the makers of the show have decided it's a good angle? Just as G4 could be accused of showing off their mortar boards, or VWS accused of strutting their stuff at GAY - none of this is engineered by the artists themselves - it's all the show producers trying to find a particular angle to show them off that particular week. It really means very little in terms of performance or votes.

I've watched most of the X factor, including the X tra factor stuff and I've never heard Tabby complain once about having a hard life - I've only ever heard Simon Cowell go on about it. It seems you're just basing your jaundiced view of Tabby on what's been suggested on here, or some tabloid trashy gossip which may have no basis in fact.

Which all takes us away from the real issue. Who has the X-Factor? Answers on a postcard please. Clue - it's spelt Tabby.
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Old 16-11-2004, 17:04
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X Factor ? Trevor ? hahaha
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Old 16-11-2004, 17:06
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IMO that was staged by Sharon, the judges are all guilty of using the sympathy angle for their acts.

I'm usually a very cynical soul, but when it comes to reality tv I've learned that the actual people participating have little or nothing to do with what we actually see, therefore I try not to judge them too harshly and keep my cynicism for those that are cashing in big time.
Luv ya Kewpee!


While I was ranting, you said what I was trying to say - except you did it in a much more succinct, easier to read and pleasant way. You get a virtual Kit-Kat for being so lovely.
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