[Hotbird]

EA make too many games I enjoy for me to hate them, I do find some of their business practices questionable though (But they are certainly not the only bad guys in the games industry).

[Mr Teacake]

Because their business model was always heavily reliant on securing image rights and not focussing on gameplay thus they produced games that were average yet profitable because of the official rights.

[whedon247]

i dont hate EA,they have some great games and i like that its sport centric

however some reasons they possibly are include

*fifa massivly overated,somehow gets top reviews but is never as good as pes every year
*have exclusive licenses
*make you pay for online pass for pre owned games

[tysonstorm]

Because they're crap.

Crap business models, crap business acumen, crap business practices, crap generic games, zero respect for developers, zero respect for gamers and zero respect for consumers.

EA along with Activision embody everything that is wrong with the gaming industry right now.

In Activisions case the next copy and paste CoD will be out soon and it will be crap BUT it will be profitable as the sheep, and lets be honest there are words far worse to describe them than that, will happily part with their money for a sub-standard game and then complain about it weeks/months later.

EA on the other hand have their fingers in pretty much every licence available, which wouldn't be bad if they delivered a half decent game every now and again instead of the same old generic crap with minor improvements each year. But no it's like a conveyor belt of whale crap that never stops.

I never always hated EA, I hated what they become.

[tysonstorm]

Originally Posted by Ash_735

It's a response to THIS video

That video is awesome.

[Speedloafer]

I hate them for their bug ridden same games and the fact that they try to milk the gamer for every penny they have.

[MojoMaster]

It's just fashionable to hate on games companies at the moment.

If you don't like their products, don't buy them.

Simple.

[Speedloafer]

Originally Posted by MojoMaster

It's just fashionable to hate on games companies at the moment.

If you don't like their products, don't buy them.

Simple.

Silly me, its not hate I have for them, it is just me wanting to be fashionable! Thanks for that, my life is now back on track. Can you tell me anything else about myself if you have a minute?

[Jimmy_McNulty]

Originally Posted by MojoMaster

It's just fashionable to hate on games companies at the moment.

If you don't like their products, don't buy them.

Simple.

Bethesda, take2, Valve, Rockstar and even Ubisoft are in the good books atm.

It's just EA and Activision who are in the bad books, and rightly so.

Disliking a publisher (very much) should not affect whether you buy a game or not, the quality of the game should determine that.

I wait with anticipation to see what EA have done with Generals II.

[MojoMaster]

Originally Posted by Speedloafer

Silly me, its not hate I have for them, it is just me wanting to be fashionable! Thanks for that, my life is now back on track. Can you tell me anything else about myself if you have a minute?

Yeah.

Your sarcasm needs a little work.

[Davonator]

Absoloutely! theres a lot wrong with EA and they have many dubious practices. But they are not the Evil Empire people make out. It's a huge subject, but the often cited 'they only get involved with safe, generic, unoriginal yearly update games for the saps' is an accusation I don't think is justified

* At a time everyone was moaning about how generic FPS games were....EA Made 'Mirrors Edge' and Bulletstorm. Both these games really tried hard to remix and refresh a stagnant style. And despite them being really great games, EA lost money on them.

* Last year EA published Suda 51's 'Shadows of The Damned' a highly bizarre original title which got great reviews....but unjustly sold very poorly.

* A few years ago people were saying Skating games were dead. Tony Hawk titles were now a mess that got poor reviews and sold a fraction of what they had before. Despite many indicators not to touch skating games with a barge pole, they created Skate from the ground up with a really good control mechanic and now it's a successful franchise.

* At a time when many other big developers/publishers had turned their back on the PC, EA still made sure that the PC version of Battlefield 3 was the lead format, even though optimizing it for consoles may have made more commercial sense.

And there are other instances like that. Even though they're far from saintly EA do take risks and try and mix it up (some of their gambles pay off some that don't)....as for FIFA, Need For Speed, Dead Space, The Sims.....people who buy those games aren't saps they're people buying those games because they are good quality titles.

[Shoozle]

-Day 1 DLC
-Turning every game from what it began as to something it is not. See Dead Space 3 not being as much as a horror as the first two.
-Terrible customer service
-Constantly get publicity by talking about gays, bisexuals and transsexuals in their games.
-Terrible servers
-Rehashes
-Battlefield 3 premium
-DLC announced before the game is even out, see the new Sim City.
-A buttload more reasons I can probably not think of.

If Mirrors Edge 2 were to be made, it would probably focus on the shooting rather than the free running, have day 1 DLC, tacked on multiplayer and co-op, Faith would turn out to be a lesbian and EA would make a huge deal about it. Nier had a transsexual but they did not get a large amount of articles and press about it, and it actually related to the character she became.

[thomas2400]

Originally Posted by Shoozle

-Day 1 DLC
-Turning every game from what it began as to something it is not. See Dead Space 3 not being as much as a horror as the first two.
-Terrible customer service
-Constantly get publicity by talking about gays, bisexuals and transsexuals in their games.
-Terrible servers
-Rehashes
-Battlefield 3 premium
-DLC announced before the game is even out, see the new Sim City.
-A buttload more reasons I can probably not think of.

If Mirrors Edge 2 were to be made, it would probably focus on the shooting rather than the free running, have day 1 DLC, tacked on multiplayer and co-op, Faith would turn out to be a lesbian and EA would make a huge deal about it. Nier had a transsexual but they did not get a large amount of articles and press about it, and it actually related to the character she became.

- not just EA does day one dlc
- capcom did it first do you hate them?
- can't comment on that
- they are making leaps and bonds by including gay characters, i genuinly can't think of a game before mass effect where it was upto the player if they were straight or gay or bi
- every company has a few games with bad servers
- rehashes, such as...
- Not heard of Cod elite, or the rockstars passes
- lost of copies announce dlc before for the game is out
- i think you need that bucket, most of your reasons apply to more than one company yet you only hate EA for them

[Jimmy_McNulty]

Originally Posted by thomas2400

- they are making leaps and bonds by including gay characters, i genuinly can't think of a game before mass effect where it was upto the player if they were straight or gay or bi

The Sims.

[Speedloafer]

You could be gay in the first Fable couldn't you?

Nobody mentioned the fact you can spend real world money improving your online character/team. Making an uneven playing field favouring the rich.

[The_Shuffle]

Originally Posted by tysonstorm

Because they're crap.

Crap business models, crap business acumen, crap business practices, crap generic games, zero respect for developers, zero respect for gamers and zero respect for consumers.

EA along with Activision embody everything that is wrong with the gaming industry right now.

In Activisions case the next copy and paste CoD will be out soon and it will be crap BUT it will be profitable as the sheep, and lets be honest there are words far worse to describe them than that, will happily part with their money for a sub-standard game and then complain about it weeks/months later.

EA on the other hand have their fingers in pretty much every licence available, which wouldn't be bad if they delivered a half decent game every now and again instead of the same old generic crap with minor improvements each year. But no it's like a conveyor belt of whale crap that never stops.

I never always hated EA, I hated what they become.

I completely agree. It's risky using the 'sheep' word around here though. I've had this debate before but as soon as you use the 'sheep' term, people start to assume you're a bald, paranoid lunatic in a tin foil hat.

If people realised how atrocious EA and Activision are things would be different. If people refused to pay silly money for pathetic dlc (some that's already on the disc, some that includes maps from previous games and is just a copy and paste) and stupid prices for the actual game in the first place, these companies would be forced to reduce prices. Unfortunately people instead pay whatever the cost and it ends up setting precedents that push prices on other games up.

EA make some fantastic games but they've been allowed to get sloppy. These days they tend to just be like the christmas songs that come out year after year and are exactly the same each time. Online gaming and DLC is outstanding when done properly and the worst thing that happened to console gaming when abused.

[Shoozle]

Originally Posted by thomas2400

- not just EA does day one dlc
- capcom did it first do you hate them?

Yes, I also hate Capcom. Along with Activision. Just those 3.

[thomas2400]

Originally Posted by Shoozle

Yes, I also hate Capcom. Along with Activision. Just those 3.

Not rockstar or square enix?

[Shoozle]

Originally Posted by thomas2400

Not rockstar or square enix?

Don't play their games. Last SE title I played was The World Ends With You on the DS.

[tysonstorm]

Originally Posted by The_Shuffle

I completely agree. It's risky using the 'sheep' word around here though. I've had this debate before but as soon as you use the 'sheep' term, people start to assume you're a bald, paranoid lunatic in a tin foil hat.

If people realised how atrocious EA and Activision are things would be different. If people refused to pay silly money for pathetic dlc (some that's already on the disc, some that includes maps from previous games and is just a copy and paste) and stupid prices for the actual game in the first place, these companies would be forced to reduce prices. Unfortunately people instead pay whatever the cost and it ends up setting precedents that push prices on other games up.

EA make some fantastic games but they've been allowed to get sloppy. These days they tend to just be like the christmas songs that come out year after year and are exactly the same each time. Online gaming and DLC is outstanding when done properly and the worst thing that happened to console gaming when abused.

I am bald as it happens.

[Jimmy_McNulty]

Originally Posted by thomas2400

Not rockstar or square enix?

Wait. wut. What is wrong with Rockstar and SE? Oh wait, scrub SE

But Rockstar you will have to explain.

It's not like they tried to create an all conquering program that steals information, takes off all their games off another client and holds it's own players to ransom, while having the audacity to ruin franchises.

[LION8TIGER]

I'm a bit old to be playing some of these games but the fair few EA games the kids have, well I don't hear them complaining.
EA runs pogo which I go on for more sedentary games like chess and backgammon and a few more.
On the whole I don't have problems, I find backgammon slow to load but that is about it apart from when you download the latest Java and EA hasn't, that can also cause problems.
On the whole from my point of view they are good.

[0lly]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vide...People-Hate-EA

[tysonstorm]

Originally Posted by 0lly

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vide...People-Hate-EA

Haha classic.

Touches on all the reasons why people hate EA and refutes the arguments of the pro-EA excuses that are churned out in desperation.

Love it when they say EA is worse than Activision and Activision is virtually satanic.

[Davonator]

I think my favourite 'Bad EA moment' was 'Goldeneye: Rogue Agent' in 2004.

It was a poor FPS that had nothing to do with the N64 classic, and nothing to do with any Bond film/novel, but it was an original but rubbish story made up by EA using the Bond license.

Everyone knows that they called it Goldeneye to try and trick people into thinking it was the sequel to (or associated with) the famous N64 game.....but when the allegation was put to them they were cynically doing this they denied it (thus treating everyone like an idiot) and said 'no we called it that because your character in the games is wearing a special artificial eye made of gold that gives him unique abilities'.....so they claimed they called it Goldeneye because your character literally has a golden eye.....