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Old 17-06-2012, 17:28
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That was the case before but I don't think they've bothered for a couple of seasons now, seemingly it's more convenient to do the midweek round later in the season.
Didn't they basically decide that it was a disadvantage for the team who misses a gameweek so early in the season and for that reason they stopped the clash with the CL qualifying round. Of course this season that isn't an issue. We'll see.
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Old 17-06-2012, 17:30
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The midweeks of Tuesday 21st/Wednesday 22nd August and Tuesday 28th/Wednesday 29th August are the playoff round for the champions league, and also the Thursdays of those midweeks (Thursday 23rd August and Thursday 30th August) are the playoff round days for the Europa League. Newcastle and Liverpool if Liverpool qualify will be competing in these matches.

There is at least however no English club in the playoff round of the champions league. As Chelsea won the competition without finishing in the top 4, they automatically got into the group stage, with the playoff place left by Tottenham who go straight into the Europa League group stage, being filled with teams from other countries.

If Chelsea have any team (apart from Newcastle or Liverpool) in week 3, hopefully they can move the fixture to one of them dates to play their game ahead of their UEFA Super Cup match.

In my opinion I see no reason why there shouldn't be a full fixture list (apart from Newcastle and Liverpools games being rearranged.)
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Old 17-06-2012, 20:25
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Is it really necessary for all London clubs to play away during the Paralympics?

It's not as if there will be much trouble at the Paralympics to require a large police presence.
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Old 17-06-2012, 20:38
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point should be made that all London clubs don't play at home on normal weekends, arsenal and spurs, chelsea and fulham for example, they alternate who plays at home.
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Old 17-06-2012, 20:45
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Can't some London clubs play their games on Friday 31st August?
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Old 17-06-2012, 20:55
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Perhaps when they come out BT could tell us which games they'd be showing if their deal started next season!
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Old 17-06-2012, 23:49
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Or maybe they won't.
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Old 17-06-2012, 23:59
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Can't some London clubs play their games on Friday 31st August?
errr Paralympics is a week long event...
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Old 18-06-2012, 00:08
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Will London clubs in League's 1 and 2 playing on September 8th have to move those games too?
Not sure; but there could be an issue with Leyton Orient (see post no.22)

Is it really necessary for all London clubs to play away during the Paralympics?

It's not as if there will be much trouble at the Paralympics to require a large police presence.
It's nothing to do with (potential) trouble; more to do with the size of the event(s) and having adequate police resources.
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Old 18-06-2012, 00:41
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I say that all northern teams will be a home on Sep 1st and Sep 8th then if London clubs can't play at home on this days.
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Old 18-06-2012, 09:11
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Opening day fixtures:

Arsenal v Sunderland
Everton v Manchester United
Fulham v Norwich City
Manchester City v Southampton
Newcastle United v Tottenham Hotspur
Queens Park Rangers v Swansea City
Reading v Stoke City
West Bromwich Albion v Liverpool
West Ham United v Aston Villa
Wigan Athletic v Chelsea

Games for TV in my opinion:

Everton v Manchester United
WBA v Liverpool
Wigan v Chelsea
Newcastle v Tottenham
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Old 18-06-2012, 09:11
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As you're on the subject, according to reports (but I can't find a link), no London club will be allowed to play at home on the weekend of 1st September, due to the Paralympics.
Well. . . Reading have Chelsea at Stamford bridge on the 1st September (provisionally) - so so much for that theory! I wonder if that will be a live game as it is a sort of local derby.

As expected, Reading's first home game is a bit of an anti-climax - Stoke. Though looking at the rest of the fixture list I do wonder if I will get picked given that we've just come up. Man City v Southampton is the shoe in and I expect Everton V Man U and maybe Newcastle v Spurs.
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Old 18-06-2012, 09:16
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Well. . . Reading have Chelsea at Stamford bridge on the 1st September (provisionally) - so so much for that theory! I wonder if that will be a live game as it is a sort of local derby.

As expected, Reading's first home game is a bit of an anti-climax - Stoke. Though looking at the rest of the fixture list I do wonder if I will get picked given that we've just come up. Man City v Southampton is the shoe in and I expect Everton V Man U and maybe Newcastle v Spurs.
I predict Chelsea v Reading will get postponed as Chelsea are playing in the Super Cup Final in Monaco!
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Old 18-06-2012, 09:28
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I predict Chelsea v Reading will get postponed as Chelsea are playing in the Super Cup Final in Monaco!
Ah, good point.
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Old 18-06-2012, 10:06
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Does anybody know how the TV games might be affected by the August bank holiday?

Also, does ESPN have 23 3rd pick matches next season, or is it a combination or different order picks?
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Old 18-06-2012, 10:12
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Does anybody know how the TV games might be affected by the August bank holiday?

Also, does ESPN have 23 3rd pick matches next season, or is it a combination or different order picks?
I assume that there won't be a game on that Monday night due to policing issues?
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Old 18-06-2012, 10:15
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There'll not be a game that Monday night unless it's between 2 teams in Europe who don't have a European game that midweek, as the 2nd round of the Capital One Cup is that week.
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Old 18-06-2012, 11:10
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From memory ESPN have 8 2nd picks, and 15 4th picks next year. Have to show every team, but can show a team up to 5 times.
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Old 18-06-2012, 11:13
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For your information, approximate commencement dates for broadcast selections are as follows:
From my local club

Changes to to finalising fixtures must be notified to the League no later than Monday 25th June 2012. The League plan to circulate changes to draft fixtures including TV picks (matches Aug-Nov) by July 5th

''For your information approximate commencement dates for broadcast selections are as follows


August 30 November: 20 June

December: 17 Sept

January: 17 Oct

February: 19 Nov

March: 3 Jan

April: 30 Jan

May: 25 Mar (Round 38 excluded)
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Old 18-06-2012, 11:43
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Quick glance at the fixtures. Sky have dodged a bullet with 22/09 fixtures- Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Man U playing each other, but no CL midweek.

For ESPN, key weeks are before CL matchdays 1-6. Before each matchday, I think the following is likely (Sky can use a pick at 12.45):

Key is that ESPN can show a top four team, sky on these weekends can only show a CL team at Sat 12.45, although there is the chance of swaps as what happened last year.

There is a lot of big matches before a CL week.

ESPN will probably get:

1- Stoke V Man City or QPR V Chelsea
2- Man Utd V Spurs (Sky will go Arsenal V Chelsea)
3- Complicated, may go Tyne and Wear Derby over other games in Sun slot
4- West Ham V Man City
5- Man City V Villa or Norwich V Man Utd
6- Man City V Everton, West Ham V Chelsea, Reading V Man Utd (at least 2 of these are options)
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Old 18-06-2012, 12:00
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Everton v Manchester United was PremPlus' opening game in 2005/06, wasn't it?

I think Sky will pick that and City, ESPN will choose Newcastle and Spurs.
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Old 18-06-2012, 12:05
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Sorry for asking this 2 years into the current deal, but how does ESPN's 2nd pick quota work. Can they opt to have it any week they want or do Sky 'give them' the weeks when they don't wish to use it for whatever reason. Just wondering as last season Sky had 'Big 6' double headers some weekends (City-Spurs, Arsenal-United for example) yet on other big double header weekends ESPN got one of the games (Spurs v City early last season for example).
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Old 18-06-2012, 12:09
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I love how Chelsea play Wigan on the opening day yet again.
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Old 18-06-2012, 12:33
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The Games finish on the 12th

The Community Shield is on the 12th so I assume the PL will start on the 18th.

Remember also that there is no summer tournament so the PL can end a week or two later than it did this season so they might not feel the need to squeeze in an early midweek fixture.


Sky Sports do not have the rights to show the charity shield from this year (2012) onwards

ITV now have exclusive rights as per this new deal

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/en...up-2014-12908/
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Old 18-06-2012, 13:06
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For your information, approximate commencement dates for broadcast selections are as follows:
From my local club

Changes to to finalising fixtures must be notified to the League no later than Monday 25th June 2012. The League plan to circulate changes to draft fixtures including TV picks (matches Aug-Nov) by July 5th

''For your information approximate commencement dates for broadcast selections are as follows


August 30 November: 20 June

December: 17 Sept

January: 17 Oct

February: 19 Nov

March: 3 Jan

April: 30 Jan

May: 25 Mar (Round 38 excluded)
Please could you provide me with a link to this info?
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