Full HD or HD Ready Is there any difference?

marieukxx · 16-06-2012, 15:31

I'm looking at tv's as mine is on the blink. My current one is HD ready and I am happy with the picture. I also have sky HD.

I am unsure if I should go for full HD or HD ready or does it not matter? I read conflicting things.

grahamlthompson · 16-06-2012, 15:37

A lot depends on how big your TV is and how far you sit from it.

HD Ready TV's are now quite hard to find except in smaller sizes. Most are now HD-Ready 1080 which have the full 1920 x 1080 pixels anyway.

marieukxx · 16-06-2012, 15:48

Thanks.

David (2) · 16-06-2012, 17:04

Full HD mostly only is offered on larger tv's, maybe say 32in and bigger. While most under this size are HD Ready. FullHD sets have a higher resolution so should provide a sharper picture. On a HD picture, this should improve things, and on examples i have seen it does, but beware that SD pictures could look a bit worse than your current HD Ready tv. The extra sharpness shows up even more imperfections in the SD pictures.

marieukxx · 16-06-2012, 17:13

I don't know what to go for. Mine is a 32 inch at the mo and HD ready. I watch sky HD.

The HD ready are a bit cheaper that full hd from what I've been looking at. But I want the best picture. Am I gonna really notice a difference in my HD channels if I buy full hd?

alan1302 · 16-06-2012, 17:21

Unless you watch a Blu Ray film then anything you watch will be just as good on a HD Ready svcreen so you don't need to pay more for a Full HD unless you are going to get a Full HD source like a Blu Ray player.

marieukxx · 16-06-2012, 17:30

Thanks, I have a bluray player but rarely use it tbh. That's made deciding what to go for a lot easier.

technologist · 16-06-2012, 17:39

All flat panel display display the pictures progressively.

A full HD panel has 1920*1080 pixel which means that in "pixel mode" or some similar terms it odes not interpolate l the picture being supplied either from the broadcast or via the HDMI lead - thus as there is no (little) processing - it is how the broadcasters /producer intended. (more or less) .
But say the panel was 1200 by 768 - some compelx maths are needed - and this affects the quality....
simeple answer go for 1920*1080

marieukxx · 16-06-2012, 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by technologist

All flat panel display display the pictures progressively.

A full HD panel has 1920*1080 pixel which means that in "pixel mode" or some similar terms it odes not interpolate l the picture being supplied either from the broadcast or via the HDMI lead - thus as there is no (little) processing - it is how the broadcasters /producer intended. (more or less) .
But say the panel was 1200 by 768 - some compelx maths are needed - and this affects the quality....
simeple answer go for 1920*1080

Didn't understand a word of that lol

jenzie · 16-06-2012, 19:01

depending on your sources (ie dvd / bluray / sky / VM / freeview / games consoles) AND the MHz the picture is processed at .....

the TOSHIBA fullHD only an at 60MHz and had noticable ghosting, however the SAMSUNG HDready i have now runs at 600MHz, giving a much smoother and better picture even on normal SKY!

grahamlthompson · 16-06-2012, 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by marieukxx

Didn't understand a word of that lol

I did but I don't totally agree with it. Most HD-Ready TV's have 768 lines but the difference is totally masked by the quality of the display. Add to this some HD is 1440 x 1080 anyway.

A good HD-Ready will have a better picture than a poor full HD display.

Take a HD Ready from a quality make like Sony/Panasonic it will knock the spots off a el cheapo TV like a Tecknika.

My son has an older HD-Ready 40" Bravia, I have an newer full-hd well reviewed Bravia. You have to get really close to the screen to see any difference. Much closer that you would ever want to view from.

Resolution isn't the ultimate standard in picture quality.

The original BBC-HD transmissions at 1440 x 1080 and at a high bitrate will blow you away on the best HD-Ready displays (eg the sadly missed Pioneer Kuros).

grahamlthompson · 16-06-2012, 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenzie

depending on your sources (ie dvd / bluray / sky / VM / freeview / games consoles) AND the MHz the picture is processed at .....

the TOSHIBA fullHD only an at 60MHz and had noticable ghosting, however the SAMSUNG HDready i have now runs at 600MHz, giving a much smoother and better picture even on normal SKY!

No it does not

600Hz would indicate a frame rate of 12 x 25fps - it doesn't mean the same thing as a 200Hz display.

marieukxx · 16-06-2012, 19:23

so the higher the Hz the better?

grahamlthompson · 16-06-2012, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by marieukxx

so the higher the Hz the better?

It depends on the quality of the video processing circuitry. Many don't like the artificial processing of 100Hz and 200Hz TV's.

marieukxx · 16-06-2012, 19:33

These are what I'm trying to pick from:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-UE32.../ref=de_a_smtd

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-KDL32CX...=1SVA75UCM7DNS

http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-32LK450U-...9871942&sr=1-3

I want the one that has the best picture. I can't get a bigger screen because it won't fit where it's gotta go. Which is best. I know the sony has the internet thing but that''s not of importance to me. The main thing is quality picture and sound

marieukxx · 16-06-2012, 19:58

I've decided to go for this one:

Sony KDL32CX523BU

Arkudos · 16-06-2012, 21:05

It has a high power consumption but other than that it seems good especially for £300.

diablo · 17-06-2012, 02:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by marieukxx

I've decided to go for this one:

Sony KDL32CX523BU

Could well be a good choice.

I've got an old 28" JVC widescreen tv and just replacing it now ordered one today.

Been experimenting with my kitchen tv which is a 19" Panasonic Viera with 768 lines (HD ready) and although it does okayish with it's own tuner for SD, the feed from my 1080p boxes when showing SD are poor and blurry.

The same feed via my projector onto a 90" 1080p screen looks much sharper, despite the huge size difference. So I reckon that converting SD to 1080i and then the tv changing it to 768 isn't too good.

Dunno what sources you have but 1080 has to be better.

marieukxx · 17-06-2012, 08:52

Decided not to go for the sony due to really bad reviews on the sound quality. Been reading a lot. Yeah full hd is great for watching blurays but for sky hd there won't be a difference as they don't broadcast in full hd anyway. No broadcaster in the UK does.

I don't even use my bluray player anymore, I'm more into streaming on the net and hooking that to my tv. I'm wondering if at around £70 more than hd ready full hd is worth it. I'm still undecided.

ProDave · 17-06-2012, 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by marieukxx

Decided not to go for the sony due to really bad reviews on the sound quality.

If you can find ANY modern tv with decent sound quality then please do tell us.

Most now have tiny hidden speakers due to the obsession with small and slim tv's.

marieukxx · 17-06-2012, 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProDave

If you can find ANY modern tv with decent sound quality then please do tell us.

Most now have tiny hidden speakers due to the obsession with small and slim tv's.

well on revoo it's got loads of comments saying how bad the sound is, other lcds I've looked at rate as sound ok and no comments on how bad it is. I'm not expecting surround sound quality from a tv but if 50 people comment on how bad the sound is on this model then I listen to that

grahamlthompson · 17-06-2012, 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by marieukxx

Decided not to go for the sony due to really bad reviews on the sound quality. Been reading a lot. Yeah full hd is great for watching blurays but for sky hd there won't be a difference as they don't broadcast in full hd anyway. No broadcaster in the UK does.

.

Why do you say that, most Satellite and now Freeview-HD is 1920 x 1080 (In the case of Freeview it's either 1080i or 1080p25).

The sound is always poor on flat screen TV's as there is no room to fit decent speakers.

fastest finger · 17-06-2012, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by marieukxx

Yeah full hd is great for watching blurays but for sky hd there won't be a difference as they don't broadcast in full hd anyway. No broadcaster in the UK does.
.

Sky HD broadcast in 1080i which IS Full HD resolution.

grahamlthompson · 17-06-2012, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastest finger

Sky HD broadcast in 1080i which IS Full HD resolution.

So does ITV CH4 CH5 NHKWorld TV, BBC-HD also when they are playing with 3D.

marieukxx · 17-06-2012, 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastest finger

Sky HD broadcast in 1080i which IS Full HD resolution.

But isn't an HD ready tv 1080i so would make the best of sky hd anyway. A full hd tv is 1080p which sky don't broadcast in

16-06-2012, 15:31	#1
marieukxx Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,714	Full HD or HD Ready Is there any difference? I'm looking at tv's as mine is on the blink. My current one is HD ready and I am happy with the picture. I also have sky HD. I am unsure if I should go for full HD or HD ready or does it not matter? I read conflicting things.

16-06-2012, 15:37	#2
grahamlthompson Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redditch Worcs Posts: 17,293	A lot depends on how big your TV is and how far you sit from it. HD Ready TV's are now quite hard to find except in smaller sizes. Most are now HD-Ready 1080 which have the full 1920 x 1080 pixels anyway.

16-06-2012, 15:48	#3
marieukxx Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,714	Thanks.

16-06-2012, 17:04	#4
David (2) Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: S.West England. Posts: 18,037	Full HD mostly only is offered on larger tv's, maybe say 32in and bigger. While most under this size are HD Ready. FullHD sets have a higher resolution so should provide a sharper picture. On a HD picture, this should improve things, and on examples i have seen it does, but beware that SD pictures could look a bit worse than your current HD Ready tv. The extra sharpness shows up even more imperfections in the SD pictures.

16-06-2012, 17:13	#5
marieukxx Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,714	I don't know what to go for. Mine is a 32 inch at the mo and HD ready. I watch sky HD. The HD ready are a bit cheaper that full hd from what I've been looking at. But I want the best picture. Am I gonna really notice a difference in my HD channels if I buy full hd?

16-06-2012, 17:21	#6
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	Unless you watch a Blu Ray film then anything you watch will be just as good on a HD Ready svcreen so you don't need to pay more for a Full HD unless you are going to get a Full HD source like a Blu Ray player.

16-06-2012, 17:30	#7
marieukxx Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,714	Thanks, I have a bluray player but rarely use it tbh. That's made deciding what to go for a lot easier.

16-06-2012, 17:39	#8
technologist Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London Posts: 7,519	All flat panel display display the pictures progressively. A full HD panel has 19201080 pixel which means that in "pixel mode" or some similar terms it odes not interpolate l the picture being supplied either from the broadcast or via the HDMI lead - thus as there is no (little) processing - it is how the broadcasters /producer intended. (more or less) . But say the panel was 1200 by 768 - some compelx maths are needed - and this affects the quality.... simeple answer go for 19201080

16-06-2012, 18:39	#9
marieukxx Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,714	Quote: Originally Posted by technologist All flat panel display display the pictures progressively. A full HD panel has 19201080 pixel which means that in "pixel mode" or some similar terms it odes not interpolate l the picture being supplied either from the broadcast or via the HDMI lead - thus as there is no (little) processing - it is how the broadcasters /producer intended. (more or less) . But say the panel was 1200 by 768 - some compelx maths are needed - and this affects the quality.... simeple answer go for 19201080 Didn't understand a word of that lol

16-06-2012, 19:01	#10
jenzie Inactive Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: BUDDIETOWN Posts: 20,385	depending on your sources (ie dvd / bluray / sky / VM / freeview / games consoles) AND the MHz the picture is processed at ..... the TOSHIBA fullHD only an at 60MHz and had noticable ghosting, however the SAMSUNG HDready i have now runs at 600MHz, giving a much smoother and better picture even on normal SKY!

16-06-2012, 19:05	#11
grahamlthompson Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redditch Worcs Posts: 17,293	Quote: Originally Posted by marieukxx Didn't understand a word of that lol I did but I don't totally agree with it. Most HD-Ready TV's have 768 lines but the difference is totally masked by the quality of the display. Add to this some HD is 1440 x 1080 anyway. A good HD-Ready will have a better picture than a poor full HD display. Take a HD Ready from a quality make like Sony/Panasonic it will knock the spots off a el cheapo TV like a Tecknika. My son has an older HD-Ready 40" Bravia, I have an newer full-hd well reviewed Bravia. You have to get really close to the screen to see any difference. Much closer that you would ever want to view from. Resolution isn't the ultimate standard in picture quality. The original BBC-HD transmissions at 1440 x 1080 and at a high bitrate will blow you away on the best HD-Ready displays (eg the sadly missed Pioneer Kuros).

16-06-2012, 19:07	#12
grahamlthompson Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redditch Worcs Posts: 17,293	Quote: Originally Posted by jenzie depending on your sources (ie dvd / bluray / sky / VM / freeview / games consoles) AND the MHz the picture is processed at ..... the TOSHIBA fullHD only an at 60MHz and had noticable ghosting, however the SAMSUNG HDready i have now runs at 600MHz, giving a much smoother and better picture even on normal SKY! No it does not 600Hz would indicate a frame rate of 12 x 25fps - it doesn't mean the same thing as a 200Hz display.

16-06-2012, 19:23	#13
marieukxx Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,714	so the higher the Hz the better?

16-06-2012, 19:31	#14
grahamlthompson Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redditch Worcs Posts: 17,293	Quote: Originally Posted by marieukxx so the higher the Hz the better? It depends on the quality of the video processing circuitry. Many don't like the artificial processing of 100Hz and 200Hz TV's.

16-06-2012, 19:33	#15
marieukxx Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,714	These are what I'm trying to pick from: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-UE32.../ref=de_a_smtd http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-KDL32CX...=1SVA75UCM7DNS http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-32LK450U-...9871942&sr=1-3 I want the one that has the best picture. I can't get a bigger screen because it won't fit where it's gotta go. Which is best. I know the sony has the internet thing but that''s not of importance to me. The main thing is quality picture and sound

16-06-2012, 19:58	#16
marieukxx Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,714	I've decided to go for this one: Sony KDL32CX523BU

16-06-2012, 21:05	#17
Arkudos Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 473	It has a high power consumption but other than that it seems good especially for £300.

17-06-2012, 02:27	#18
diablo Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 8,103	Quote: Originally Posted by marieukxx I've decided to go for this one: Sony KDL32CX523BU Could well be a good choice. I've got an old 28" JVC widescreen tv and just replacing it now ordered one today. Been experimenting with my kitchen tv which is a 19" Panasonic Viera with 768 lines (HD ready) and although it does okayish with it's own tuner for SD, the feed from my 1080p boxes when showing SD are poor and blurry. The same feed via my projector onto a 90" 1080p screen looks much sharper, despite the huge size difference. So I reckon that converting SD to 1080i and then the tv changing it to 768 isn't too good. Dunno what sources you have but 1080 has to be better.

17-06-2012, 08:52	#19
marieukxx Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,714	Decided not to go for the sony due to really bad reviews on the sound quality. Been reading a lot. Yeah full hd is great for watching blurays but for sky hd there won't be a difference as they don't broadcast in full hd anyway. No broadcaster in the UK does. I don't even use my bluray player anymore, I'm more into streaming on the net and hooking that to my tv. I'm wondering if at around £70 more than hd ready full hd is worth it. I'm still undecided.

17-06-2012, 09:13	#20
ProDave Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Northern Scottish Highlands Posts: 11,307	Quote: Originally Posted by marieukxx Decided not to go for the sony due to really bad reviews on the sound quality. If you can find ANY modern tv with decent sound quality then please do tell us. Most now have tiny hidden speakers due to the obsession with small and slim tv's.

17-06-2012, 09:24	#21
marieukxx Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,714	Quote: Originally Posted by ProDave If you can find ANY modern tv with decent sound quality then please do tell us. Most now have tiny hidden speakers due to the obsession with small and slim tv's. well on revoo it's got loads of comments saying how bad the sound is, other lcds I've looked at rate as sound ok and no comments on how bad it is. I'm not expecting surround sound quality from a tv but if 50 people comment on how bad the sound is on this model then I listen to that

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17-06-2012, 10:48	#22
grahamlthompson Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redditch Worcs Posts: 17,293	Quote: Originally Posted by marieukxx Decided not to go for the sony due to really bad reviews on the sound quality. Been reading a lot. Yeah full hd is great for watching blurays but for sky hd there won't be a difference as they don't broadcast in full hd anyway. No broadcaster in the UK does. . Why do you say that, most Satellite and now Freeview-HD is 1920 x 1080 (In the case of Freeview it's either 1080i or 1080p25). The sound is always poor on flat screen TV's as there is no room to fit decent speakers.

17-06-2012, 11:22	#23
fastest finger Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Heart of England. Posts: 8,633	Quote: Originally Posted by marieukxx Yeah full hd is great for watching blurays but for sky hd there won't be a difference as they don't broadcast in full hd anyway. No broadcaster in the UK does. . Sky HD broadcast in 1080i which IS Full HD resolution.

17-06-2012, 12:20	#24
grahamlthompson Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Redditch Worcs Posts: 17,293	Quote: Originally Posted by fastest finger Sky HD broadcast in 1080i which IS Full HD resolution. So does ITV CH4 CH5 NHKWorld TV, BBC-HD also when they are playing with 3D.

17-06-2012, 12:42	#25
marieukxx Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2,714	Quote: Originally Posted by fastest finger Sky HD broadcast in 1080i which IS Full HD resolution. But isn't an HD ready tv 1080i so would make the best of sky hd anyway. A full hd tv is 1080p which sky don't broadcast in