[hisdogspot]

Originally Posted by Lou17

Hes open minded I dont see why he needs to be labelled

It's not about being labelled though ... it's about being honest

At his age, and with his experience, he knows whether he's bi or not

Why not just say ? ... because he might alienate a section of the voting public by doing so maybe ?

[wonkeydonkey]

Originally Posted by Janet St Walker

Disingenuous is his middle name.

How cruel of his parents.

Originally Posted by Caz42

Ach, they just need a rabbit

I have a lovely rabbit! He is hopping round the room at this very minute, occasionally stopping to snatch a passing cabbage leaf! Not a very rewarding sexual partner though.

Originally Posted by Romola_Des_Loup

If he just said he wouldn't rule it out, that doesn't make him bisexual. I wouldn't rule it out either, but I'm older than Benedict and I think if it was going to happen, it would have by now.

Oh I don't know. If Mr WD fell under a bus, there seem to be hardly any men available, and those seem to be the kind who file their socks in alphabetical order. Needs must.

Originally Posted by cool fool

I totally agree with you. Waggling his gusset while discussing the social problems of Papua New Guinea

Almost certainly a sentence that has never been written before, ever, in the history of the world.

[SG-1]

Originally Posted by Electra

What about the guys then? I can't stand any of the 'shirt off' crew. Really like Adam & Luke A.

Adam seems pretty good,laid back but not enough to be dull and has promise to let rip if anything riles him.
I liked how he handled Lydias issue in tonights HLs.

Luke A still too early,he is harmless enough but I cant recall much about him seeing as he rarely features cept for a few seconds on the HL show...I would consider him as disposable if he doesnt do something of interest this week.

The guys I already want out are piling up..Conor Arron,and Luke S,not because they are pretty boys but because I find Conors conversations lacking anything at all and I doubt most would miss him if he left.
Luke S ( and Ashleigh ) is Chiggy all over again and I dont want to watch that.

No idea on Scott,I found him a bit like Tom last year obsessing on HMs that are not in his reach.
The bleached wirey hair isint a good look and so far hes not the comic HM I expected him to be.

Who have I left out?
oh yeah we already talked about benadict.

Great series so far though..imagine watching it on the LF now,I think thats 5s only real big mistake of this series.

Oh I forgot Becky...too be fair I thought all 3 wildcards were poor choise but Becky is coming across as too annoying to watch for long..shame chris isint still there to push her buttons.

[Bacon&Eggs]

Originally Posted by hisdogspot

It's not about being labelled though ... it's about being honest

At his age, and with his experience, he knows whether he's bi or not

Why not just say ? ... because he might alienate a section of the voting public by doing so maybe ?

Erm... he did say where he stood else we would not be having this conversation. it's just that you don't believe him. your reliant upon an alteria motive to suggest he is not being honest.

Can you see. there is no issue here except maybe it's been a slow day for News!

[Electra]

Originally Posted by SG-1

Adam seems pretty good,laid back but not enough to be dull and has promise to let rip if anything riles him.
I liked how he handled Lydias issue in tonights HLs.

Luke A still too early,he is harmless enough but I cant recall much about him seeing as he rarely features cept for a few seconds on the HL show...I would consider him as disposable if he doesnt do something of interest this week.

The guys I already want out are piling up..Conor Arron,and Luke S,not because they are pretty boys but because I find Conors conversations lacking anything at all and I doubt most would miss him if he left.
Luke S ( and Ashleigh ) is Chiggy all over again and I dont want to watch that.

No idea on Scott,I found him a bit like Tom last year obsessing on HMs that are not in his reach.
The bleached wirey hair isint a good look and so far hes not the comic HM I expected him to be.

Who have I left out?
oh yeah we already talked about benadict.

Great series so far though..imagine watching it on the LF now,I think thats 5s only real big mistake of this series.

Oh I forgot Becky...too be fair I thought all 3 wildcards were poor choise but Becky is coming across as too annoying to watch for long..shame chris isint still there to push her buttons.

I forgot about Scott He seems ok, even if he does come over like a young Larry Grayson

And yes, oh for Live Feed *sigh*

[SG-1]

Originally Posted by Electra

I forgot about Scott He seems ok, even if he does come over like a young Larry Grayson

And yes, oh for Live Feed *sigh*

hahaha that really made me laugh because ive been trying to work out since day 1 who he looked like..great observation

[Paace]

Benedict is floating an idea that a lot of people find very uncomfortable to deal with.

Sexual identity is not fixed. I'm sure many of us are bewildered to read that a seemingly happy married woman for many years, can leave her partner and go and live intimately with another woman.
Same can occur for a man.

[JayDee279]

Originally Posted by Romola_Des_Loup

Yours is the most ridiculous argument I ever heard.

I can't be held responsible for what you have, or have not heard.

Here is the argument, as I understand it.
Benedict might find certain men sexually attractive.
Benedict refuses to be categorised as 'bisexual' simply because he might, at some point, be attracted to certain men.
Benedict refuses to be' put in a box' on the basis of his sexual preferences.
Benedict confuses description with discrimination (in the modern sense).

So, Benedict, applying pure, cold logic, we're not allowed to put ANYONE in a box on the basis of their sexual preferences.
What, Benedict, would you have to say about people who are sexually attracted to children, or to adults with 'special needs' or to goats? Is it REALLY no-one who should be put in a box, or just you?
- - -
Yes, I know .... Benedict can't possibly answer my questions, because he's not in a position to read this, but HIS logic still applies.

[Lou17]

Originally Posted by hisdogspot

It's not about being labelled though ... it's about being honest

At his age, and with his experience, he knows whether he's bi or not

Why not just say ? ... because he might alienate a section of the voting public by doing so maybe ?

Because he doesn't have to?

[hisdogspot]

Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs

Erm... he did say where he stood else we would not be having this conversation. it's just that you don't believe him. your reliant upon an alteria motive to suggest he is not being honest.

Can you see. there is no issue here except maybe it's been a slow day for News!

Did he ?


Where does he stand then ?

Is he straight, gay, or bi ?

[Lou17]

Originally Posted by Paace

Benedict is floating an idea that a lot of people find very uncomfortable to deal with.

Sexual identity is not fixed. I'm sure many of us are bewildered to read that a seemingly happy married woman for many years, can leave her partner and go and live intimately with another woman.
Same can occur for a man.

I agree, I know of many people this has happened to.

[MickeyBrownEyes]

Originally Posted by NaughtyNan

He acts very camp though so I think(only my opinion of course)he is more on the homosexuality side even if he tries hard not to. I am a straight female but there has been instances where I have had thoughts for other women. Am I a lesbian? I don't think I am, am I? I am human though, I got two legs which I stand on.

Would it help to describe these experiences Nan? I'm sure we'd like to help you talk them through.......

[achro]

Originally Posted by Paace

Benedict is floating an idea that a lot of people find very uncomfortable to deal with.

Sexual identity is not fixed. I'm sure many of us are bewildered to read that a seemingly happy married woman for many years, can leave her partner and go and live intimately with another woman.
Same can occur for a man.

Wait...is it really "not fixed"?

Since science shows homosexuality / bisexuality / straightness is already decided before you are born - how is it possible to suddenly change it?

In the example of a "straight" married person suddenly going for the same sex - I would assume they were never straight, and were bisexual all along.

[James Frederick]

We all have labels when it comes to sexuality some are straight some are gay some are bi I myself am Asexual.

[Nanna Betty]

Originally Posted by James Frederick

We all have labels when it comes to sexuality some are straight some are gay some are bi I myself am Asexual.

This

[Bacon&Eggs]

Originally Posted by JayDee279

I can't be held responsible for what you have, or have not heard.

Here is the argument, as I understand it.
Benedict might find certain men sexually attractive.
Benedict refuses to be categorised as 'bisexual' simply because he might, at some point, be attracted to certain men.
Benedict refuses to be' put in a box' on the basis of his sexual preferences.
Benedict confuses description with discrimination (in the modern sense).

So, Benedict, applying pure, cold logic, we're not allowed to put ANYONE in a box on the basis of their sexual preferences.
What, Benedict, would you have to say about people who are sexually attracted to children, or to adults with 'special needs' or to goats? Is it REALLY no-one who should be put in a box, or just you?
- - -
Yes, I know .... Benedict can't possibly answer my questions, because he's not in a position to read this, but HIS logic still applies.

The problem with labels & boxes and id guess why Benedict is reluctant to say which one he fits into is because he, like many others realize that those labels don't apply to them, and one that does, has not yet been invented. Solution don't label me.

Is he straight or Bi ?

He says he loves Women! then he's straight, BUT

He can imagine a relationship with a Man, so he's Bi,BUT

He's only ever had feelings and relationships with Women. so he's neither is he!

Oh and can't we find a better analogy than the pedo one, even if your not suggesting he's one. you wouldn't use that analogy on a friend would you!

[NaughtyNan]

Originally Posted by MickeyBrownEyes

Would it help to describe these experiences Nan? I'm sure we'd like to help you talk them through.......

I shall write them down and post them on here...I will be a while.

[Reality Sucks]

Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs

The problem with labels & boxes and id guess why Benedict is reluctant to say which one he fits into is because he, like many others realize that those labels don't apply to them, and one that does, has not yet been invented. Solution don't label me.

Is he straight or Bi ?

He says he loves Women! then he's straight, BUT

He can imagine a relationship with a Man, so he's Bi,BUT

He's only ever had feelings and relationships with Women. so he's neither is he!

Oh and can't we find a better analogy than the pedo one, even if your not suggesting he's one. you wouldn't use that analogy on a friend would you!

I think he's a Vulcan...........

[AA2009]

Conor nearly jumping out of the hot tub when he heard Benedict might be bi was the most interesting thing he's done in the house.

[hisdogspot]

Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs

The problem with labels & boxes and id guess why Benedict is reluctant to say which one he fits into is because he, like many others realize that those labels don't apply to them, and one that does, has not yet been invented. Solution don't label me.

Is he straight or Bi ?

He says he loves Women! then he's straight, BUT

He can imagine a relationship with a Man, so he's Bi,BUT

He's only ever had feelings and relationships with Women. so he's neither is he

Just as well we're not all as reluctant to commit one way or the other though eh ?

What a shambles we'd be in if everyone wanted to keep their options endlessly open

[JayDee279]

Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs

Oh and can't we find a better analogy than the pedo one, even if your not suggesting he's one. you wouldn't use that analogy on a friend would you!

It's not an analogy, it's an extension of what he said.
- - -
Anyway, under Jim's Rule Of Three, whereby if I find myself saying exactly the same thing three times I shut up ... I'll shut up.

[Bacon&Eggs]

Originally Posted by hisdogspot

Just as well we're not all as reluctant to commit one way or the other though eh ?

What a shambles we'd be in if everyone wanted to keep their options endlessly open

I don't know, do you? i mean why should he need to commit!

[BeethovensPiano]

Originally Posted by Paace

Benedict is floating an idea that a lot of people find very uncomfortable to deal with.

Sexual identity is not fixed. I'm sure many of us are bewildered to read that a seemingly happy married woman for many years, can leave her partner and go and live intimately with another woman.
Same can occur for a man.

The word there is "seemingly" It's not hard to imagine a gay man for instance liviing what he thinks is a straight lifestyle in order to fit into some kind of social norm

[Aneechik]

It's really just another one of his somewhat pompous opinions that sounds a lot more intellectual than it really is, and it's unfortunate (though not surprising) that there's no-one else in the house intelligent enough to point out its obvious flaws.

[*Liya*]

He does porn...he'd do it for the right price