[londonite]

I know its dual v quad but Is there a noticeable difference..ie. lag etc?

[alan1302]

I've not got an S3 but my wife has a Note and there is no lag on there. Most software out there probably won't even know what a quad core is so won't use it either.

[finbaar]

The S3 is virtually lag free in my experience of it. My Note running the stock ICS firmware was pretty nippy but I have just cracked and installed a custom ROM and now I don't think there is much to choose between them.

The fact is I can tweak the software of my Note to compete with the S3 but the S3 can't do anything about the smaller screen. And that is why I wont get a S3.

[MojoMaster]

The Note can't do anything about the processor either

[Step666]

Originally Posted by MojoMaster

The Note can't do anything about the processor either

Or the GPU.
Even though both handsets are Mali400MP4, changes ARM have made to the way the GPU operates means that the one in the GS3 is far more powerful.

[londonite]

Originally Posted by Step666

Or the GPU.
Even though both handsets are Mali400MP4, changes ARM have made to the way the GPU operates means that the one in the GS3 is far more powerful.

whats that in english how is it more powerful

[alan1302]

BUt can anyone actually tell in normal operation between the two...no looking at benchmarks

[londonite]

Originally Posted by alan1302

BUt can anyone actually tell in normal operation between the two...no looking at benchmarks

^ this

[jabbamk1]

i've used both for a very short time and from what i've seen they've both been very fast and nice to use. I think the screen on the Note is really nice. But bear in mind i've only used them for a short time.

If they can get the same software like pop out play/camera on the Note from the S3 then i'd say go for the Note as the bigger screen and spen are great pluses and the phone runs just as fast in real life usage as the S3 from what i've seen.

Besides the Note already has plenty of custom roms for it and is a good £150 cheaper than the S3 when bought outright.

[finbaar]

Originally Posted by MojoMaster

The Note can't do anything about the processor either

And the S3 cant do anything about the small screen either. The S3 would fee like a downgrade to me after the Note. I look forward to the Note 2. But neither phone will have it's potential fully realised by most users.

I am enjoying the TouchWiz UX from the S3launcher on the Note by the way. Very smooth.

[ASIFZED]

Hi. As a fellow Note owner, I agree having seen the S3, that it would be hard to move to this given what the Note offers and screen size. S3 is nice, but my Note (4.0.3) seems just as fast when moving through the home screens and switching applications.

The S Note application on the S3 is pretty lame, without use of a proper S Pen.. the best thing on a phone for ages. The S3 will undoubtedly do massive sales, but like you, only a Note 2 would be of any future interest for me (probably quad core, lighter, thinner but hopefully retaining the same screen size or 0.5" larger).

[finbaar]

Originally Posted by ASIFZED

Hi. As a fellow Note owner, I agree having seen the S3, that it would be hard to move to this given what the Note offers and screen size. S3 is nice, but my Note (4.0.3) seems just as fast when moving through the home screens and switching applications.

The S Note application on the S3 is pretty lame, without use of a proper S Pen.. the best thing on a phone for ages. The S3 will undoubtedly do massive sales, but like you, only a Note 2 would be of any future interest for me (probably quad core, lighter, thinner but hopefully retaining the same screen size or 0.5" larger).

I use Papyrus beta now for note taking, the "peice of paper" can be expanded in all directions - give it a try.

I have heard that the Note 2 is to have 5.5" screen. Now if they keep the same size phone that is OK. However even though I am completely happy carrying such a large device as the Note around there does come a point where you have to say "stop, enough already". I mean we don't want to look those sad schmucks you see taking pictures of there kids in the park with a "tablet" do we.

[darkjedimaster]

It might be worth the wait for the Galaxy Note 2.

http://www.reghardware.com/2012/06/2...vals_iphone_5/

[wavejockglw]

There should be no difference as both have the same data technology.

Neither have HSPA+ 42 nor LTE so they both have at best HSPA+ 21 which according to 3 UK delivers on average 3-4 Mbs on a mobile network... more than enough to view streaming video (even HD on BBC iPlayer) on either of the handsets.

[ASIFZED]

Argh! Well, if those specs are correct and providing a larger screen can be accommodated within the same bezel, then looks like my Note will have to find a new owner.

Will have to wait and see but for now, the Note is still the best phone on the market.

[Step666]

Originally Posted by londonite

whats that in english how is it more powerful

I'll try but I'm a little hazy on it myself - it was explained to me by a friend who's a network engineer and generally much more knowledgeable about phones than most.


The original Mali400MP4 in the likes of the Galaxy S2 and the Note had (amongst a lot of other things) 4 pixels shaders and 1 vertex shader per core.
The changes ARM and Samsung have made mean that the updated Mali400MP4 in the Galaxy S3 uses a unified architecture, whereby the shaders can be used flexibly depending on what's required at the time.

Also, the older design had limited bus bandwidth, which Samsung have now increased as well as upping the clock speed.

It's also linked to this in some way, though don't ask me how.


Anyway, all that combined is why the handsets with the older design of GPU have poorer benchmark scores than the iPhone 4S/iPad 2 whereas the Galaxy S3 has superior benchmark scores (though still behind the latest iPad in some areas, as it has a ridiculously powerful GPU because of the screen resolution).

[alan1302]

Originally Posted by Step666

Anyway, all that combined is why the handsets with the older design of GPU have poorer benchmark scores than the iPhone 4S/iPad 2 whereas the Galaxy S3 has superior benchmark scores (though still behind the latest iPad in some areas, as it has a ridiculously powerful GPU because of the screen resolution).

But can you actually tell in day to day use?

[Step666]

Originally Posted by alan1302

But can you actually tell in day to day use?

I don't own either handset, so I don't know.

But I would suspect that, over time at least, yes there will be a difference.
More apps (especially games) will make use of the additional power of both the CPU and the GPU. Also, because the new chip is 32nm as opposed to 45nm, it should also be more power efficient.

[finbaar]

Originally Posted by Step666

I don't own either handset, so I don't know.

But I would suspect that, over time at least, yes there will be a difference.
More apps (especially games) will make use of the additional power of both the CPU and the GPU. Also, because the new chip is 32nm as opposed to 45nm, it should also be more power efficient.

Whilst I agree with all the comments about how the hardware of the S3 is better than the Note - the S3 is the king of phones at the moment - I do not see the vast majority of users noticing any difference. The Note is fast. The S3 is fast. Spot the difference.

[MojoMaster]

Originally Posted by ASIFZED

Argh! Well, if those specs are correct and providing a larger screen can be accommodated within the same bezel, then looks like my Note will have to find a new owner.

Will have to wait and see but for now, the Note is still the best phone on the market.

If by best, you mean biggest, then yes.

[ASIFZED]

Ok, best for ME.

[Anika Hanson]

Originally Posted by ASIFZED

Ok, best for ME.

And the best for me too

[spaceman05]

whilst searching ebay for a case for my new galaxy note, i noticed there are 2 dfifferent product numbers for the galaxy note, one being N7000, and the other being i9920, is there any difference between the phones, or is it just different operators giving them different numbers?

[spaceman05]

and whilst I am at it, can anybody reccommend a decent case for the galaxy note, not looking for anything to expensive, i would like 1 that i have on my iphone 4 at the moment, which is a hard case in 2 bits, which covers the whole phone, but more importantly, it creates a lip around the front of the phone, not too big, but big enough that if i dropped the iphone 4 face down it prevents the screen hitting the floor and smashing, so was looking for something similar for the galaxy note but cant seem to find one like that

[finbaar]

Spaceman - they i9220 and N7000 are basically the same' I think the i9220 is for the Chinese market. Cases would be interchangeable. I use a case are barely there but that does not have a lip. There is a thread in XDA about cases, check that out.