[Orangemaid]

http://www.beddgelerttourism.com/gelert/

I remember going to see the grave when i was small.. I was nearly crying reading the grave..I got a Beddgelert badge, with the picture of the ''faithful hound'' with a sword through his side..I still have it in good nick ( it must be 30 odd years old now ) ..Has anyone else been ?

[The Mc]

Seveal times over the years. The village is one of my favourite places in the world, and me and the wife are having a holiday there end of October!

[Kapellmeister]

I've been there but I must've missed the grave

[Aly1]

I went there when I was about 10 and also cried when I went to the dogs grave and heard his story.
I also fell into the river and got covered in algae.

[Zero gravitas]

Proof that a knee-jerk reaction is never a good one.

Pedant mode
It's Gelert's grave.
/Pedant.

[Welsh-lad]

.... it's also a fake story.
There is a similar myth in Germany... from which the Welsh story originated.

[Pumping Iron]

Yes been there many times. As a kid and more recently stated in a cottage there for a week when l was doing part of my dissertation.

[stud u like]

These type stories are all over the place. "The Odyssey" and "Tristran and Isolde" spring to mind.

[alsmama]

Originally Posted by Welsh-lad

.... it's also a fake story.
There is a similar myth in Germany... from which the Welsh story originated.

I think the term legend is more appropriate than a fake story. The latter almost implies someone created a hoax whereas I think it is more likely that the story just grew in the telling to being a legend.

[stud u like]

Originally Posted by alsmama

I think the term legend is more appropriate than a fake story. The latter almost implies someone created a hoax whereas I think it is more likely that the story just grew in the telling to being a legend.

It also shows how fast oral tradition developed and travelled.

[alsmama]

Originally Posted by stud u like

It also shows how fast oral tradition developed and travelled.

Absolutely. Although I guess it isn't impossible that similar stories actually started in different parts of the world, or that something similar even actually happened in different parts of the world

[stud u like]

Originally Posted by alsmama

Absolutely. Although I guess it isn't impossible that similar stories actually started in different parts of the world, or that something similar even actually happened in different parts of the world

The Phoenicians spread a lot of these stories about.

It is interesting how bits of "The Odyssey" and "Theseus" gets into "Tristan and Isolde".

[Welsh-lad]

Originally Posted by alsmama

I think the term legend is more appropriate than a fake story. The latter almost implies someone created a hoax whereas I think it is more likely that the story just grew in the telling to being a legend.

In this case it is a fake story. It was contrived by a local hotelier David Prichard in the 1790s in order to boost tourism.

[TerraCanis]

Originally Posted by Welsh-lad

In this case it is a fake story. It was contrived by a local hotelier David Prichard in the 1790s in order to boost tourism.

But was it entirely his own original idea?

[~Twinkle~]

Originally Posted by Welsh-lad

In this case it is a fake story. It was contrived by a local hotelier David Prichard in the 1790s in order to boost tourism.

This is the truth.

[exlordlucan]

Originally Posted by Orangemaid

http://www.beddgelerttourism.com/gelert/

I remember going to see the grave when i was small.. I was nearly crying reading the grave..I got a Beddgelert badge, with the picture of the ''faithful hound'' with a sword through his side..I still have it in good nick ( it must be 30 odd years old now ) ..Has anyone else been ?

I've been and probably have the same badge as you.

[spiney2]

there's also that stuffed dog in a glass case at slough railway station .......

[Welsh-lad]

Originally Posted by TerraCanis

But was it entirely his own original idea?

well he built the grave mound, and there was nothing there before.
Gelert is probably a saint's name (cf Llangeler in Carmarthenshire). 'Bedd' means grave or tomb. The saint was probably buried in the village and his grave became the site of a shrine or small church.