[Stiggles]

Originally Posted by Mark in Essex

For the features I need the S2 blows the 4S away.

Having had both, the galaxy does blow away the 4S. Its much faster, lighter, thinner, looks nicer and the screen is miles better.

Cant wait till i come back from abroad on the 27th as im then purchasing a nice shiny new S3

Some mug wants to pay me £380 for my iphone 4S

[Zack06]

Galaxy Nexus is better....

[pi r squared]

Originally Posted by linkinpark875

So yes there's some 4, 5" phones, 16, 32GB handsets, great sound quality, more free apps on Android but STILL I don't get it.

This simply says more about you than it does about Android. Aside from a rabid few, most iPhone users will concede that Android is a great OS, a worthwhile competitor, certainly worthy of stealing features from (see below), but simply not for them. Similarly, most Android users will concede that iOS is better in many respects, but those areas where Android is better make it the OS for them.

I really dislike the feel of Android.

Subjective gumph.

The screen depth of text still doesn't match the retina.

What the hell is depth of text? Incidentally I have good eyesight and one feature I love about Android is that I can make the font size smaller to fit more on the already big screen. Is that possible on iOS?

The build quality sucks on Samsungs.

My Galaxy Nexus feels fine, though it is in a silicone case (as all my phones end up in one) so it feels different from if you just pick it up in a shop. That said, most iPhone users I know use a case too. Build quality might be worse, but it doesn't "suck" at all.

The Galaxy had no home button unlike the Ipad and wiglets were annoying.

All tabs have a home button, so I assume you mean a physical one. The beauty of having the Home button in the same place on the tablet (ie. the bottom) regardless of how you're holding it is a great feature, and one you would be lauding over us if Apple had introduced it rather than Google. Ditto widgets, which incidentally are optional so even if they annoy you, it is very simple not to use them. For me, powering up my phone and seeing the calendar agenda and to-do list widgets right on my homescreen, and knowing what I'm up to for the day without delving into this app and that app is much more important than a couple of nice games in the App store.

[iOS6 has] 200 new features

Many of the new features have existed on Android for months or years. Dismiss call with text, turn-by-turn nav, video calling over 3G, custom alarm tones, and so on. If iOS is as better and as far ahead as you claim, why are most of the new features either irrelevant (eg. "new features for China") or simply bringing parity with Android?

Ultimately, neither OS would be as good as it currently is without the competition being as strong as it is. Both teams are working flat-out to one-up the other, and for us users that's great. Would Jobs have threatened to go thermonuclear on Android if it were really as shitty as you make out?

[darkjedimaster]

Originally Posted by linkinpark875

So yes there's some 4, 5" phones, 16, 32GB handsets, great sound quality, more free apps on Android but STILL I don't get it. I really dislike the feel of Android. The App store bores me, the games are less superior especially free ones. The screens are much more unresponsive and the screen depth of text still doesn't match the retina. The build quality sucks on Samsungs. You just have to hold the Iphone vs the Samsung. Yes it's a bad idea to drop the Iphone but if you are careful it's a much smarter well made handset.

Galaxy note was almost as big as the Playbook. I tried most tablets in a store and found the playbook to be faster and more unique in design. The Android tablets were too complicated. The Galaxy had no home button unlike the Ipad and wiglets were annoying.

I go into phone shops all the time and they always dish the Iphone and say it's got crap signal, Android do better with there OS updates and this phone is much newer and better sound. Don't believe it.

The Iphone is much more interesting to use with Ibooks, the better app store, texting, surfing is smoother even was back in the 3GS days. The Iphone camera is better than any 5 or 8MP I've seen, Facetime is better than the dud 3G calls we had years ago.

It reminds me of the Sony Ericsson handsets they always had so much missing that Samsung never had but the K750i, K800i, C905 were all iconic flagship phones. Since Android came in it's been dull production lines of phones. Bigger memory, BIGGER screen, BIGGER camera like 12 mega pixels too much for a camera phone but they seem think it's better.

Give me IOS6 over any of these Android production line clones any day. 200 new features and a decent OS which works. Being honest there's not one handset I like. The odd Windows phone has got my eye but there's few others I'd prefer to own.

No doubt about it Iphone is the best all round smart phone money can buy. Iphone 3GS to the 4 to the 4S. Might lack some IOS6 features but from budget to high end comparison I'd much rather have the Iphone. Anybody agree?

You may get the odd few people agree with you, but the fact is that there is nearly a million new Android users each day around the world & that the S3 is the most pre-ordered handset in history, something that Apple could only dream of.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-new...hat-means/8127

You say that the build quality of the Samsungs suck, well at least the S2 is drop proof when compared to the 4S & the S3 is scratch proof.

S2 vs 4S Drop Test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC3xRGgSrdQ

S3 Scratch Test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhoF564nJ_Q

I have owned both the Iphone 3GS & Iphone 4, and for me to be able to use applications that wasn't on Itunes, I had to jailbreak it to remove Apples tight restrictions, at least with Android, you can use applications from whatever source you like. Also with the transfer of music & pictures on the iphone you was restricted to Itunes, where as with Android you can drag n drop through windows.

Apple is well known for using dated technology, which is why the bench marks of the S3, not only beat the 4S by a mile but also will no doubt beat the Iphone 5. Apple are well aware of this & so they resort to childish lawsuits to try & stop the likes of Samsung & HTC from selling their handsets.

I appreciate that some people do prefer the iphone, but if you are intent on getting one, then please do the right thing by putting the jailbreak on it, as it will make the phone more enjoyable to use. But if you want a phone that you can do what you pretty much want to on without the need of jailbreak & with faster technology than Apple, then get yourself a HTC or Samsung, you can upgrade the memory with it & you can change the battery. You cannot do any of this with an Iphone.

[CoolboyA]

All the things you mention are purely subjective - what you find you don't like about Android, I find I don't like about iOS.

I have had an iPod Touch since they came out and apart from not being able to make phonecalls, they run the exact same OS as your iPhone does. I find iOS very simple to use, as there is no level of depth to it, and it is very bland. It serves its purpose well, and there are a lot of apps to chose from - some of which I wish were available on Android. That said, it has just as many rubbishy apps going for it as well: X-ray visions anyone? Heat sensory vision goggles?

The one thing I dislike about iOS above all else, is the lack of customisation you are afforded. Want to change a wallpaper, OK. Want to change a ringtone, sort of. Want to change how your icons are displayed, no. Want to see other things on your screen other than square apps, don't be ridiculous!

[-GONZO-]

I can't really say which is better, but the one thing I do like about iPhone is that the market is not saturated with different models with different specs and pretty much 90% of apps work with previous models of iOS, the only ones that dont are ones that use a specific feature of the likes of the 4 and 4S.
With Android it does seem like a total lottery as there are so many models available with different specs so either make sure your get one with the very latest specs or you just have to take a chance whether or not an app(especially games) will work with your particular Android model.

[Pretinama]

I rather like the look of Android, and actually think that the UI is more honest that iOS, especially with all the iOS reflections, 3D and faux textures. But I think that iOS is more polished in terms of its functionality than Android.

I'd like to give Android 4 a go, but cannot justify the cost of buying an Android phone capable of running it, just to see how it goes in real life.

[paulbrock]

Originally Posted by Steve™

It has Satnav detail equivalent to TomTom.

I don't question the content is there (on the whole, at least one roads round the King's Cross screenshot circulating looks suspect)

The criticism is the way Apple is display that info, or not, on the whole. Taking the simple clean interface too far, some think. Thoughts?

[Dykeolicous]

The Galaxy Note leaves the iPhone standing on the starting blocks. It's not just about the screen size. Apps are brill, operating more stable and the s pen cannot be rivalled.

[alan1302]

Originally Posted by Dykeolicous

The Galaxy Note leaves the iPhone standing on the starting blocks. It's not just about the screen size. Apps are brill, operating more stable and the s pen cannot be rivalled.

'operating more stable' - I've never found the iPhone to be unstable...anything but. Always found it very good and the aps on Android/iOS are pretty similar.

[finbaar]

I really do not like the design of the iPhone 4/4S. It is ugly, chunky, has a dull screen and is just way to heavy. And browsing the web on a 3.5 inch screen is a horrible experience. I can do everything easily on my Android devices but when I try and use iOS I struggle to anything. But so what. You don't care what I think if you are an Apple fan and I don't care what you think either.

Why are the Apple vs Android threads always started by Apple fans? They must feel they have something to prove.

[alan1302]

Originally Posted by finbaar

I really do not like the design of the iPhone 4/4S. It is ugly, chunky, has a dull screen and is just way to heavy. And browsing the web on a 3.5 inch screen is a horrible experience. I can do everything easily on my Android devices but when I try and use iOS I struggle to anything. But so what. You don't care what I think if you are an Apple fan and I don't care what you think either.

Why are the Apple vs Android threads always started by Apple fans? They must feel they have something to prove.

Why must Android fans always post to say how rubbish iOS when obviosly it isn't just different and some people like it and others don't.

[swordman]

Originally Posted by alan1302

Why must Android fans always post to say how rubbish iOS when obviosly it isn't just different and some people like it and others don't.

Actually ios is a bit poor and limited in comparison to android. The fact it runs your phone is all well and good but it should do that. You need to consider that phones are now for all practical purposes computers and I would never accept an OS with such limitations on my pc nor will I on a phone.

I like many others find it a little puzzling that users of IOS readily accept these limitations and often claim such limitations as a benefit.

[finbaar]

Originally Posted by alan1302

Why must Android fans always post to say how rubbish iOS when obviosly it isn't just different and some people like it and others don't.

Well derrr. Look at the title of the thread we are posting in. Who started this particular round?

And yet another case of selective quoting. I already said we have our own views on this.

[alan1302]

Originally Posted by swordman

Actually ios is a bit poor and limited in comparison to android. The fact it runs your phone is all well and good but it should do that. You need to consider that phones are now for all practical purposes computers and I would never accept an OS with such limitations on my pc nor will I on a phone.

I like many others find it a little puzzling that users of IOS readily accept these limitations and often claim such limitations as a benefit.

It’s because a lot of people find the simplicity and lack of options to actually be a refreshing change from a complicated OS with loads of options and changes and is what allows Apple to ensure there is a similar experience using iOS for every user.

Obviously not everyone wants that but not everyone wants to customise everything

[alan1302]

Originally Posted by finbaar

Well derrr. Look at the title of the thread we are posting in. Who started this particular round?

And yet another case of selective quoting. I already said we have our own views on this.

Who started it? What are you five? Just because someone comes on the forum with a post that is obviously designed to rile people up doesn't mean you have to as well!

[finbaar]

Originally Posted by alan1302

Who started it? What are you five? Just because someone comes on the forum with a post that is obviously designed to rile people up doesn't mean you have to as well!

Only being reactive and putting my view to the OPs premise. And lets face it that is what this forum is for after all.

[finbaar]

Originally Posted by alan1302

It’s because a lot of people find the simplicity and lack of options to actually be a refreshing change from a complicated OS with loads of options and changes and is what allows Apple to ensure there is a similar experience using iOS for every user.

Obviously not everyone wants that but not everyone wants to customise everything

But you can't customise iOS and you don't have to customise Android. I agree with you though that if you need a very simple OS, for what ever reason that may be and personally I can't think of a non offensive one so I wont post any of them, then iOS is ideal.

I do have a iOS device as well you know, an ATV2. And what a piece of work it is, came in a nice box though. However, jailbroken and running XBMC it has a use. But when RaspberryPi devices become widely available the ATV2 is going

[swordman]

Originally Posted by alan1302

It’s because a lot of people find the simplicity and lack of options to actually be a refreshing change from a complicated OS with loads of options and changes and is what allows Apple to ensure there is a similar experience using iOS for every user.

Obviously not everyone wants that but not everyone wants to customise everything

But because something has the options you don't have to use them do you, anyone can pick up and use android without making any changes if they so wish in the same way as ios. Android is no different to windows for a PC works to whatever depth you choose to use it, I don't hear people making the argument that I need a really simple OS for my PC.

What I would find frustrating is you buy an apple phone and apple still consider it their property and you will use it how they deem fit. With android it is your phone to do with as you please.

[Stuart_h]

Originally Posted by finbaar

But you can't customise iOS and you don't have to customise Android. I agree with you though that if you need a very simple OS, for what ever reason that may be and personally I can't think of a non offensive one so I wont post any of them, then iOS is ideal.

I do have a iOS device as well you know, an ATV2. And what a piece of work it is, came in a nice box though. However, jailbroken and running XBMC it has a use. But when RaspberryPi devices become widely available the ATV2 is going

on this slightly off-topic note why wait for the Pi ? have you seen the (excitingly named) MK802 ?

quite tempted ..... i have a windows Atom PC connected to my TV at the mo but the MK802 looks like a neater solution ....

[MGS4SnakeRulez]

Keep telling yourself that OP. I'll take the freedom for customisation, free apps and not limited to a specific over priced phone OS of Android any day.

[classixuk]

I compared both the iphone 4S and Galaxy S2 in the shop before I made my purchase.

There was a clear winner.

I rang my mum on the Galaxy S2 using Android. She seemed surprised that I was calling her from a number that wasn't my own and I obviously had to explain that I was in the shop deciding which phone to buy etc. After that she was fine. She remarked that the audio quality was superb and there was no echo on the line or anything like that, which is obviously important when making calls. I thanked her for her time and explained I would call her back from the iPhone.

When I did so I asked if the quality was any better or worse and she replied "exactly the same". So I thanked her for the feedback and had to make a difficult decision.

Obviously, as the sound quality on both phones was the same I had to make my decision based on which phone was faster.

Seeing as my call using Android lasted 3 mins 42 seconds compared to 34 seconds with the iPhone it was clear that the iPhone helps you have faster conversations.

So I bought that one.

[Zack06]

Originally Posted by classixuk

I compared both the iphone 4S and Galaxy S2 in the shop before I made my purchase.

There was a clear winner.

I rang my mum on the Galaxy S2 using Android. She seemed surprised that I was calling her from a number that wasn't my own and I obviously had to explain that I was in the shop deciding which phone to buy etc. After that she was fine. She remarked that the audio quality was superb and there was no echo on the line or anything like that, which is obviously important when making calls. I thanked her for her time and explained I would call her back from the iPhone.

When I did so I asked if the quality was any better or worse and she replied "exactly the same". So I thanked her for the feedback and had to make a difficult decision.

Obviously, as the sound quality on both phones was the same I had to make my decision based on which phone was faster.

Seeing as my call using Android lasted 3 mins 42 seconds compared to 34 seconds with the iPhone it was clear that the iPhone helps you have faster conversations.

So I bought that one.

The reasoning for this is very bizarre......Especially the bold....surely an iPhone cannot dictate how long you spend on the phone, so I don't know how 'it helps you have faster conversations'.....what an odd statement...

[classixuk]

Originally Posted by Zack06

The reasoning for this is very bizarre......Especially the bold....surely an iPhone cannot dictate how long you spend on the phone, so I don't know how 'it helps you have faster conversations'.....what an odd statement...

It certainly isn't odd. The iPhone surely is faster, as can be proved by the difference in how long it took me to have a conversation using Android vs. Apple.

Totally blew me away when I realised how much faster all my conversations would be from then on in my life simply by choosing to use a certain phone over another.

With the time it has saved me since purchasing I have more time for my hobby which is comparing Sky remotes to Virgin ones to discover which one is better for watching the Discovery channel with.

[Dai13371]

Originally Posted by pi r squared

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Many of the new features have existed on Android for months or years. Dismiss call with text, turn-by-turn nav, video calling over 3G, custom alarm tones, and so on. If iOS is as better and as far ahead as you claim, why are most of the new features either irrelevant (eg. "new features for China") or simply bringing parity with Android?

Ultimately, neither OS would be as good as it currently is without the competition being as strong as it is. Both teams are working flat-out to one-up the other, and for us users that's great. Would Jobs have threatened to go thermonuclear on Android if it were really as shitty as you make out?

On the CNET website, this very thing is addressed and the authors opinion was that apples users dont care. You see, according to iphone fans, Apple may be late to the party, but they do it with a style and quality that Google can never match. What a load of delusional bollocks.