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madscotsboy
19-06-2012
Originally Posted by hungover:
“Sorry Alan, not sure that i get your point. Surely the problem is that executives think that iPads and iPhones are "cool". Hence the vogue of "bring your own devices" inspite of the increased risks of data security being compromised .

Persoanally I would rather confidental data about me was handled on devices that have a proven track record of allowing IT departments to lock them down and secure them, namely Blackberrys and Windows PCs.

I appreciate that you can apply security policies to iphones but how many owners in a BYOD environment would allow you to remove access to the App Store or browser?

Indeed how many iphone owners are aware that there has already been malware in the App Store, or how many Mac owners believe the BS from Apple that they can't get viruses and they don't need to run AV software?”

Actually I think you'll find that the rumour of Macs not being able to get viruses and how much of a lie that is was started by non Mac Users or ridiculously undereducated Mac users. All Mac users are aware that we can get viruses, and that now Apple are more mainstream the threat level is increasing. I have AV software on my Mac and have done since I bought it. It is naive to think you are immune.

Yes there has indeed been malware on the App Store, as with any online store (Blackberry & Android incl). Apple does vet its apps so it is harder for viruses to get through. Having worked in IT I can say the BYOD concept is highly flawed for anyone using any device as they will inevitably have to lock you out of any online store whether you own Blackberry, Android or Apple. BYOD increases data theft and security breaches what ever way you look at it. Just like PC and Blackberry, there is software options available to restrict how an iPad would interact with the internet and stop access to certain applications. So to say it is less secure is silly. Blackberry, Windows and Apple are all just as secure as each other, there is no contest here. Its about what works best for who.

Why is it always a damn competition and bitch match…
psionic
19-06-2012
Originally Posted by hungover:
“Persoanally I would rather confidental data about me was handled on devices that have a proven track record of allowing IT departments to lock them down and secure them, namely Blackberrys and Windows PCs.

I appreciate that you can apply security policies to iphones but how many owners in a BYOD environment would allow you to remove access to the App Store or browser?”

Virtualisation seems to be the way forward for enterprises. http://arstechnica.com/information-t...n-any-carrier/ and http://www.wireless.att.com/business...ons/toggle.jsp
Bagsbunny
19-06-2012
Originally Posted by digimon900:
“I dont have a mobile... I had a growth removed from my brain last year. Out and about internet is prohibitively expensive and if you are in motion its patchy too so your applications would work only intermittently”

What do you consider expensive? You can get unlimited mobile browsing on an ipad or phone for as little as £20 for 6 months via TMobile-lots of other cheap deals available.
digimon900
19-06-2012
But what is the use of it if it does not work everywhere???
The mountains and areas where there are only few homes get no cell signal at all.
barky99
19-06-2012
I think the big phone idoit thing can be blamed on trigger happy tv/Dom Joly ... ipad is just an enlarged phone after all
digimon900
19-06-2012
Originally Posted by barky99:
“I think the big phone idoit thing can be blamed on trigger happy tv/Dom Joly ... ipad is just an enlarged phone after all”

He admitted on TV that he stole that phone from outside a store in Baker street
Bagsbunny
19-06-2012
Originally Posted by digimon900:
“But what is the use of it if it does not work everywhere???
The mountains and areas where there are only few homes get no cell signal at all.”

No question there are large areas of the uk without signal,but the fact remains that the vast majority of the population spend most of their lives within reach of a data signal. I was merely responding to your assertion that mobile data is prohibitively expensive.
digimon900
19-06-2012
The phone signal in the UK is extremely good all over. Its not good here at all and its expensive like sprint charge $99 a month for very patchy data services
barky99
19-06-2012
Originally Posted by digimon900:
“The phone signal in the UK is extremely good all over. Its not good here at all and its expensive like sprint charge $99 a month for very patchy data services”

not good here either in this corner of UK ... 3g doesn't exist here & take 500m walk to left & gsm disappears
Bagsbunny
19-06-2012
Originally Posted by digimon900:
“The phone signal in the UK is extremely good all over. Its not good here at all and its expensive like sprint charge $99 a month for very patchy data services”

Ah, didn't spot you were in th U.S.A; my bad re.iPad!
Matt D
19-06-2012
Originally Posted by digimon900:
“The phone signal in the UK is extremely good all over. Its not good here at all and its expensive like sprint charge $99 a month for very patchy data services”

Oh I dunno, there's a certain UK network also known for patchy data & 3G
digimon900
19-06-2012
BUt does it make you sign a two year data contact at $99 a month?
Matt D
19-06-2012
Agh, no, so there is that!
far2cool
19-06-2012
Or, as they're otherwise known - people with iPads...
whoever,hey
19-06-2012
Originally Posted by madscotsboy:
“Actually I think you'll find that the rumour of Macs not being able to get viruses and how much of a lie that is was started by non Mac Users or ridiculously undereducated Mac users. All Mac users are aware that we can get viruses, and that now Apple are more mainstream the threat level is increasing. I have AV software on my Mac and have done since I bought it. It is naive to think you are immune.”

Just because you believe that doesn't make it the mainstream. Many posts are still made on DS about macs being invulnerable to viri. Its the vocal majority that has caused the problem i guess whether that is a userbase majority or not, nobody will ever know.

Blaming non mac users for spreading it is also the most bizarre thing i have ever heard. Thats an original one on me.
digimon900
19-06-2012
Macs can pass viruses on between windows computers with ease and do all the time.
There are Mac viruses around - known as System vulnerabilities - they get stamped out pretty quickly by software updates rather than anti virus software. That is Apple find out about them and every single device gets a software update, whether the vulnerability was detected or not. Sure with the proliferation of apps now being written for iPad and iPhone and their now interchangeable with mac computers under the latest release (Snow Leopard I think) its only a matter of time before someone creates wanton destruction amongst devices via the black hole of the back door or trojan...
Matt D
20-06-2012
Lion is the latest version of OS X, soon to be replaced with Mountain Lion.

iOS apps are not compatible with Macs.

There was actually a Mac trojan in the news recently... Flashback.
darkknight77
20-06-2012
Originally Posted by digimon900:
“No you cant! you have to be connected to internet, and there is no microsoft word for i-pad, anything else is a waste of time as you would have to cut and paste between devices for it to be effective”

Utter nonsense

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/pages/id361309726?mt=8
digimon900
20-06-2012
too hard to keep up with all these animals! Lion has app capability and you can launch an app screen by clicking on the rocket icon, not all apps are compatible but those that are will work the same way as if on a phone or tablet. Interestingly you have to log in to iTunes to get any of the apps so there is a record of exactly who has them
darkknight77
20-06-2012
Originally Posted by barky99:
“ ipad is just an enlarged phone after all”


It's not a phone, you cannot make calls on it.
digimon900
20-06-2012
Originally Posted by darkknight77:
“It's not a phone, you cannot make calls on it.”

YES YOU CAN! If you are a Comcast telephone or internet customer, or you have skype
Akane Tendo
20-06-2012
Originally Posted by digimon900:
“Macs can pass viruses on between windows computers with ease and do all the time.
There are Mac viruses around - known as System vulnerabilities - they get stamped out pretty quickly by software updates rather than anti virus software. That is Apple find out about them and every single device gets a software update, whether the vulnerability was detected or not. Sure with the proliferation of apps now being written for iPad and iPhone and their now interchangeable with mac computers under the latest release (Snow Leopard I think) its only a matter of time before someone creates wanton destruction amongst devices via the black hole of the back door or trojan...”

A system vulnerability isn't a virus.

And as for them passing on viruses to Windows systems, yes that could happen, but that's not unique to Macs. You could pass on a virus via a computer running Linux.
Akane Tendo
20-06-2012
Originally Posted by digimon900:
“YES YOU CAN! If you are a Comcast telephone or internet customer, or you have skype”

You'd look pretty stupid holding an iphone up to your ear and talking on it.
digimon900
20-06-2012
Originally Posted by Akane Tendo:
“You'd look pretty stupid holding an iphone up to your ear and talking on it. ”

Why? people buy them for that
sensoria
20-06-2012
The photo of the guy at the sports reminds me of me.

The best use I have for my ipad is when coaching rugby. I can arrange a drill and video it on the ipad and then get the guys around in an instant and show them the errors or the good things straight off. I don't have to explain it the errors I can point them out directly on the screen as they happen. Also there is a good app that has a pitch and players so you can show moves.

Great bit of kit for teaching.
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