[chopoff]

Originally Posted by Premium-Onion

See it has been confirmed now, the leak was real.


http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1441597..._are_real.html

That is far from a confirmation, but some sites hosting the document have shown the takedown requests from the lawyers representing MS and they are requesting it on the grounds of copyright.

I doubt someone would go to the lengths of making a 50+ page document, including sketches of new products, so it is no doubt real.

I guess by not saying it isn't real, you can say it is as good as saying it is real.

[tysonstorm]

IF this is indeed true then excuse me while I go to the bank and give M$ all of my money.

[CSI-uk]

So this might actually be happening then!

[2Dshmuplover]

Forza 5 on Xbox 720, I shudder to think how good that will be.

[smcbeath]

Originally Posted by 2Dshmuplover

Forza 5 on Xbox 720, I shudder to think how good that will be.

For me all really i want is for all the games to be played in full 1080p hd, and 3d in 720p, at 60fps. Imagine forza 5, le mans, 50 players in multi class racing

[2Dshmuplover]

Now you're talking! I don't own a 3D TV though

[bob2005]

All games in HD is the way forward.

[Andy2]

Originally Posted by bob2005

I hope they release 2 versions of the console I only want a games console. I don't want a multi media system.

Same here. All this web-surfing, multimedia, photo-storing, music playing stuff annoys the sh!t out of me. I want it to play/install games from DVD/Blu Ray, that's all.
But I don't want the 'cut down' non-media version to be in any way inferior on the games front.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by Andy2

Same here. All this web-surfing, multimedia, photo-storing, music playing stuff annoys the sh!t out of me. I want it to play/install games from DVD/Blu Ray, that's all.
But I don't want the 'cut down' non-media version to be in any way inferior on the games front.

The thing is all the features you mention are software so why bring out a version of the console without it, it doesn't add to the cost of producing the unit.

[chopoff]

Originally Posted by Gormond

The thing is all the features you mention are software so why bring out a version of the console without it, it doesn't add to the cost of producing the unit.

And why moan about additional features? Just don't use them...

[AyeJay]

I bet they'll just call it the new Xbox as neither Xbox 3, Xbox 720 or Xbox 8 sound right.

[gavo360]

Originally Posted by chopoff

And why moan about additional features? Just don't use them...

Exactly. It's upto the developers to make the games. I'm happy for Microsoft and Sony to add extra software features that probably don't take huge resources from them. The less boxes I have attached to my tv the better and as long as the next Xbox has enough horsepower and 3rd party devs support it as well as the 360 then Microsoft will be happy.

[bob2005]

How much would this super machine cost with BC and Blu Ray it won't be cheap.

[Jay-Cee]

Originally Posted by AyeJay

I bet they'll just call it the new Xbox as neither Xbox 3, Xbox 720 or Xbox 8 sound right.

People believe the 8 is not really eight but infinity as it was the code name for the new xbox

[Andy2]

Originally Posted by chopoff

And why moan about additional features? Just don't use them...

Because the multimedia whizzy version will cost more. Why would anyone pay extra for features they won't use?

[jjesso123]

Originally Posted by Andy2

Because the multimedia whizzy version will cost more. Why would anyone pay extra for features they won't use?

As already pointed out it would not be as all features you've suggested, wouldn't need additional hardware.

The rumoured inclusion of cable TV playback would be only feature that would add extra cost, however that is unlikely to even make it out of the US.

Originally Posted by Jay-Cee

People believe the 8 is not really eight but infinity as it was the code name for the new xbox

I think it was simply down to the fact 8 turn sideways is the symbol for infinity, and MS are pushing windows 8, Win mobile 8 at the moment. there has been no rumour of it being the code name. I think it's bit far fetched really, I don't know Xbox Infinity sounds weird to me.

[frost]

Originally Posted by jjesso123

As already pointed out it would not be as all features you've suggested, wouldn't need additional hardware.

You really think they wouldnt increase the price due to the extras? Of course they would.

[CSI-uk]

Originally Posted by jjesso123

As already pointed out it would not be as all features you've suggested, wouldn't need additional hardware.

The rumoured inclusion of cable TV playback would be only feature that would add extra cost, however that is unlikely to even make it out of the US.





I think it was simply down to the fact 8 turn sideways is the symbol for infinity, and MS are pushing windows 8, Win mobile 8 at the moment. there has been no rumour of it being the code name. I think it's bit far fetched really, I don't know Xbox Infinity sounds weird to me.

That's not rumour, its Michael Pachter talking out of his arse.

[jjesso123]

Originally Posted by CSI-uk

That's not rumour, its Michael Pachter talking out of his arse.

Are you sure ? I'm sure it was hinted in interview during E3 time. Even if it was just patcher who don't normally like to listen to is not exactly unlikely considering how MS want to dominate the living room.

[Andy2]

Originally Posted by jjesso123

As already pointed out it would not be as all features you've suggested, wouldn't need additional hardware.

.

Are you trying to say that the two versions, one with just basic gaming capabilities, the other with all the whizzy multimedia stuff would be priced identically? No way.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by Andy2

Are you trying to say that the two versions, one with just basic gaming capabilities, the other with all the whizzy multimedia stuff would be priced identically? No way.

No he isn't saying that...

The point is that MS wouldn't sell a version that is limited as it wouldn't save them any money to do so as it would cost the exact same to make as the other version.

Also MS want to push the Xbox as home entertainment, releasing a version with limited software would be madness.

[chopoff]

Originally Posted by Andy2

Are you trying to say that the two versions, one with just basic gaming capabilities, the other with all the whizzy multimedia stuff would be priced identically? No way.

There won't be two versions.

The 'multimedia whizzyness' is software, it isn't hardware.

This is a one-off upfront cost to Microsoft, foregoing updates.

It doesn't require any additional hardware which impacts the unit cost.

It is like Windows coming with Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer. There isn't a cheaper version without them.

As for cable - for once I agree with Pachter. Given the leaked doc mentions DVR capabilities, and to be the only box in the living room it needs to replace your TV delivery box.

That is obviously a US thing, and anywhere else that cable has a much better coverage.

If they did it in the UK I'd expect it to be with BT Vision.

[jjesso123]

Originally Posted by Andy2

Are you trying to say that the two versions, one with just basic gaming capabilities, the other with all the whizzy multimedia stuff would be priced identically? No way.

No of cause not, the things you've suggested here

. All this web-surfing, multimedia, photo-storing, music playing stuff annoys the sh!t out of me. I want it to play/install games from DVD/Blu Ray, that's all.

do not add to the cost the console. All the R&D that could potentially cost, has all be done as those features already available on on the 360. meaning if MS only want those features it would not cost extra, or at most the cost would be minimal and would not be viable to have a console without those features. So it's irrelevant the very minimal cost that could occur.

However if say MS want Cable playback, that requires more hardware meaning that could mean another SKU that obviously be priced higher.

I expect A few SKU's with few different HDD's sizes, and and maybe a all in one box released in america with cable playback and massive HDD.

Originally Posted by frost

You really think they wouldnt increase the price due to the extras? Of course they would.

The things that he stated would add at most very minimal cost due the factors stated above.

[Richard_Wright]

if it is 299$ and 360 is around 250$ then 360's price will decrease significantly. should i buy 720?

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by Richard_Wright

if it is 299$ and 360 is around 250$ then 360's price will decrease significantly. should i buy 720?

The 360 came out in the US at $300 and is not $200. My guess is that it will drop to $150 RRP (£100 here) when the next Xbox is released.

Without having anything confirmed about the next Xbox no one can say if it's worth buying at launch.