[Teddybleads]

Moaners.

[goonst]

Originally Posted by Pumping Iron

You never see a slim and beautiful feminist do you.

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Slim, beautiful feminists. Of course, I hate all of them. Don't you know that's what feminism is all about?

[lottielaneuve]

People who can't see past their own experience, and therefore try to apply it to everyone else. That's quite annoying.

And, coincidentally, now that it's been mentioned, Shakesville seems to get my back up quite a bit. As much as I might consider myself a feminist, the condescending writing style on there (from most of the contributors) just has me saying "oh, shut up, for goodness' sake!" a lot of the time. Case in point:

All In—Being "All In" is an acknowledgement that not speaking up, that not using one's teaspoon, that turning a blind eye toward or meeting with apathy the injustices wrought against other people tacitly condones them. To be "All In" is to recognize: I make a difference in this world, for good or ill. There is no neutral. There is no Switzerland. There is only saying no to the indignities one human visits upon another—prejudice, hatred, humiliation and pain—or saying yes. And silence, the craven averting of one's gaze so the offense may take place out of view, is not a no. It is not ambiguous. It is a yes. Yes, go ahead, just don't do it to me. It is a permission, and a plea. I'll sacrifice her if you'll let me on my merry way. We routinely cede our expectations of goodness for guarantees of safety, but only our own, and we can no longer fool ourselves that people who hurt others while we cast down our eyes are aberrations; they are, in the void of unyielding solidarity our self-interest has left, inevitabilities. There is no neutral. You're in or you're ****ing out.

(from http://www.shakesville.com/2010/01/shaxicon.html)

[stupidwheelie]

Blogs! http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1672055

[goonst]

Originally Posted by lottielaneuve

Now that it's been mentioned, Shakesville seems to get my back up quite a bit. As much as I might consider myself a feminist, the condescending writing style on there (from most of the contributors) just has me saying "oh, shut up, for goodness' sake!" a lot of the time. Case in point:


(from http://www.shakesville.com/2010/01/shaxicon.html)

Yeah, I do know what you mean and wouldn't necessarily disagree. I tend to cite the Rape Culture 101 post because it is my favourite of all the attempts to define rape culture, and because most of the things linked to are actual real world bits of awful and not just rants or opinion pieces, and mostly because the sheer volume of links to articles and incidents and controversies and solid examples of sexism and rape culture does, IMO, help illustrate how overwhelming it can feel.

[lottielaneuve]

Originally Posted by goonst

Yeah, I do know what you mean and wouldn't necessarily disagree. I tend to cite the Rape Culture 101 post because it is my favourite of all the attempts to define rape culture, and because most of the things linked to are actual real world bits of awful and not just rants or opinion pieces, and mostly because the sheer volume of links to articles and incidents and controversies and solid examples of sexism and rape culture does, IMO, help illustrate how overwhelming it can feel.

I'm glad you at least partly agree - I thought I was pretty much alone in thinking what I do! There's another blog out there somewhere (whose name I can't remember) that uses phrases like "that's not okay", and generally talks to the reader as if they're about 5, and it annoys me more, but thankfully I can't remember the name of it.

[Duncan_Styles]

Most things annoy me in one way or another as I have very little patience when it comes to idiots who sadly seem to be everywhere.

[rumpleteazer]

People who use the phrase "my brain says"

People who go to a show and hum along to the music

People who go to a show and rustle food wrappers, if you can't get up to an hour without food public events probably aren't for you.

People on a busy bus who sit in the aisle seat meaning the window seat can't be used.

People who sit in the window seat of a busy bus and put their bag on the aisle seat meaning it can't be used.

People who don't move in the supermarket after you've said excuse me in a clear polite manner 3 times (I think you're legally allowed to run them over at that point )

[stupidwheelie]

Originally Posted by rumpleteazer

People who use the phrase "my brain says"

People who go to a show and hum along to the music

People who go to a show and rustle food wrappers, if you can't get up to an hour without food public events probably aren't for you.

People on a busy bus who sit in the aisle seat meaning the window seat can't be used.

People who sit in the window seat of a busy bus and put their bag on the aisle seat meaning it can't be used.

People who don't move in the supermarket after you've said excuse me in a clear polite manner 3 times (I think you're legally allowed to run them over at that point )

Tell them to move.

[Hieronymous]

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[goonst]

Originally Posted by lottielaneuve

I'm glad you at least partly agree - I thought I was pretty much alone in thinking what I do! There's another blog out there somewhere (whose name I can't remember) that uses phrases like "that's not okay", and generally talks to the reader as if they're about 5, and it annoys me more, but thankfully I can't remember the name of it.

Nah I know what you mean. I have to admit I do sometimes get the urge to be that condescending feminist, because my personal experience and interest means that sexism and rape culture are lit up in screaming neon lights to me and I need to force myself not to treat people who don't have that experience as though they're mentally disadvantaged. It's like my higher maths teacher - she found it hard to see things from the perspective of people who didn't already know a teacher-training's worth of maths, which didn't make her particularly good at explaining concepts and such. In this case it's not the same as knowledge vs lack of knowledge, more like hyper-awareness vs lack of such.

[AnnaliseZ]

Originally Posted by goonst

Nah I know what you mean. I have to admit I do sometimes get the urge to be that condescending feminist, because my personal experience and interest means that sexism and rape culture are lit up in screaming neon lights to me and I need to force myself not to treat people who don't have that experience as though they're mentally disadvantaged. It's like my higher maths teacher - she found it hard to see things from the perspective of people who didn't already know a teacher-training's worth of maths, which didn't make her particularly good at explaining concepts and such. In this case it's not the same as knowledge vs lack of knowledge, more like hyper-awareness vs lack of such.

Oh sorry but what..?? You would struggle not to treat me as if I'm mentally disadvatanged because I don't have experience in the sexism / rape area? The only screaming neon lights here are big bright patronising ones.

[goonst]

Originally Posted by AnnaliseZ

Oh sorry but what..?? You would struggle not to treat me as if I'm mentally disadvatanged because I don't have experience in the sexism / rape area? The only screaming neon lights here are big bright patronising ones.

No, not mentally disadvantaged. I was exaggerating. I just meant that sometimes I do have to step back and stop using unhelpfully condescending or angry language just because someone doesn't have the same perspective* (better word than experience I think, sorry) as I do. I was recognising it as a flaw, and a problem with how I can look at situations, and something I try to change.

*Not saying my perspective is a better one either.

[jra]

Originally Posted by Pet1986

Yes the blender is ready, the smoothie maker is out and some ben&gerrys will be removed from the freezer to go in both soon. Im going to start with an Innocent Passion

Innocent? Convince me.

[jra]

Originally Posted by goonst

No, not mentally disadvantaged. I was exaggerating. I just meant that sometimes I do have to step back and stop using unhelpfully condescending or angry language just because someone doesn't have the same perspective* (better word than experience I think, sorry) as I do. I was recognising it as a flaw, and a problem with how I can look at situations, and something I try to change.

*Not saying my perspective is a better one either.

Originally Posted by AnnaliseZ

Oh sorry but what..?? You would struggle not to treat me as if I'm mentally disadvatanged because I don't have experience in the sexism / rape area? The only screaming neon lights here are big bright patronising ones.

Time for you two to make up. Life's too short.

[Orangemaid]

When you get on a hot warm bus in this weather with no windows open..Its stinks and stuffy..First thing i do before i sit down is open a window....Its not that hard

[primer]

Originally Posted by stupidwheelie

Tell them to move.

you can't 'tell them to move'.

you can tell them you want to get to/ use the other seat.

[Jason100]

Having to climb over someone to get a seat on the bus

[primer]

people who can't muster the term 'excuse me'

[stupidwheelie]

Originally Posted by primer

you can't 'tell them to move'.

you can tell them you want to get to/ use the other seat.

You can tell them what you like, I'll tell them to move thanks

[Gravitas]

Originally Posted by Caldari

People who think the internet is serious business.

Somebody already mentioned threads being locked.

[primer]

Originally Posted by stupidwheelie

You can tell them what you like, I'll tell them to move thanks

you think you have a preferential right to a seat someone else sitting in?

my, narcissism really is on the increase these days

[stupidwheelie]

Originally Posted by primer

you think you have a preferential right to a seat someone else sitting in?

my, narcissism really is on the increase these days

So is picking at other people's posts.

[galaxy99]

When someone you are trying to avoid calls at the house and you are pretending not to be in and the dog starts barking so they know you are in.
People who grope everything in the supermarket (fruit) and smell things and do not care who has to buy it after you.
when you lose something and the minute you buy a replacement you find the original.
my husband poking his belly buttion makes me sick

/ l \

[primer]

Originally Posted by stupidwheelie

So is picking at other people's posts.

oh i'm sorry you didn't mention that you were fragile too.