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Old 31-07-2012, 02:02
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What positive view, Its TUTV there are no positives
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Old 31-07-2012, 02:35
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What positive view, Its TUTV there are no positives
They could be RealDigital .. that's a positive
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Old 31-07-2012, 07:24
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I give up!

It's no surprise the majority of subscribers to TUTV don't use the forum and its full of Comedy Club merchants.
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Old 09-08-2012, 14:32
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Given CAT ruling in favour of Sky looks like time is almost up for TopUp TV.


Although Ofcom is now reportedly looking to address the issues raised by today's ruling, the end of the current arrangement could prove to be disastrous for Top Up TV, who have mostly ditched their previous on-demand "Anytime" service delivered overnight via the digital terrestrial television network in favour of a premium sports channel add-on service for Freeview households. The Sky Sports service constitutes a core element of that service.

http://www.a516digital.com/2012/08/b...wholesale.html
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:18
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That could be very true.

At the moment I think TUTV may see out the year but who knows after that.

The sad thing is that the service went along the sports road as that was the cash cow at the time but this ruling could sink that ship.

And i don't see the company getting back on the TV Fav. bandwagon as there are other suppliers via the internet etc. But equally the via aeriel market is still open if the company could re invent itself and get the confidence of prospective subscribers, unlikey but you never know.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:36
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Hopefully, before TUTV calls it a day with it's On Demand TV Favourites service, that they will provide a firmware update, that will remove the TUTV 'engine' from the machines leaving you with a Freeview box.
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Old 11-08-2012, 21:57
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Another nail just wen't into TUTVs coffin not long now before these cowboys go under
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Old 13-08-2012, 07:21
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Which is all well and good if you don't us the service but abit of a foot in stomach if you do

And of course wasn't this the exact same thing said when Sky lost the football after 2013? And the same when the live service went bye bye and when GOLD was cut due to Channel 5+1 starting?
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Old 13-08-2012, 09:16
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Hopefully, before TUTV calls it a day with it's On Demand TV Favourites service, that they will provide a firmware update, that will remove the TUTV 'engine' from the machines leaving you with a Freeview box.
No need to.

All they'll need to do is send a code, that basically deactivates/activates the internal gubbins. the FV8day is already there.

I agree though, a new FW to strip the logo, remove the channel bar for TV Favs, disable TUTV EPG (keeping the FV8day), I reckon then you could be onto a winner.

Although the Vestel based TUTV boxes could in theory be re-flashed back into a vestel box. isn't there a serial port somewhere?

since the Thomson boxes are bespoke those will have to stay on the TUTV software.
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Old 13-08-2012, 09:29
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Which is all well and good if you don't us the service but abit of a foot in stomach if you do

And of course wasn't this the exact same thing said when Sky lost the football after 2013? And the same when the live service went bye bye and when GOLD was cut due to Channel 5+1 starting?
I agree mate, I have alot of time for TUTV. They saved my bacon when all i could get was freeview.

The linear service was great. We have channel5 to thank for the demise of that. If TUTV had a mux to itself, say mux D then perhaps it would have stuck around. It's strong points allowed for flats, students, and listed buildings access to pay TV.

But even back in those days TUTV was always hated from day one. I could never really understand why.

Alot saw it as stealing free space from freeview, others got annoyed when E4 went free, they all assumed they should get Paramount (like for like), we got eurosport which to me was an ideal add on. made it a neat all rounder for 7 per month. It was very reminiscent of the on digital days.

Anytime was hit with massive issues:

-sky stealing the name for use with it's own anytime system, forcing TUTV to change
-People not being patient causing an early software release then complaining that it didn't work.
-persistent bashing on all fronts from argos, amazon, DS right through to ebay (I do believe and I am cynical enough to think that sky may have done that - if they were capable of hacking on digital to bring it down....)

With the emergence of BT vision, and IPTV. many people now seek to watch TV in a different way. I know a few that literally use the samsung smart TV and nothing else saying that they are happy with lovefilm + iplayer + netplayer, with now TV on the horizon I can see this staying for a while.

sadly, TUTV's days are numbered which is a great shame.

Hope you guys come back stronger next time. perhaps do what Real digital failed to do, instead of freeview, go the sat route!
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Old 13-08-2012, 10:43
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Going by your post it's everyone else's fault but TUTV?

I don't recall any bad press or reviews when they had their live TV service, Channel five may have screwed them over forcing them to go down the route they did with their anytime service but it's their (TUTV) fault they got a slating and a bad rep by failing to put right the many many issue's their firmware had!

cheap unreliable boxes, buggy firmware, premium rate phone numbers and never ending price increases while decreasing the service received was just a piss take really.
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Old 13-08-2012, 13:30
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I would love for a return of live pay TV services on freeview! Free TV supported by advertising in the long run is unstustainable causing companies like ITV to diversify revenue streams such as exploiting the internet . Revenue streams such as the HD surcharge some pay TV platforms charge will be lost when an eventual transition from SD/HD to just HD happens.

I would rather have pay TV channels displayed in the EPG rather than shopping/gaming and adult . And thanks to the digital switchover, most DTV's will have a CAM slot, if not a CI+ one! Thanks to the improvements to the signal from DSO and lessons learnt from ITV Digital, a pay TV service that complements freeview could benifit the platform.

Its a shame ITV didn't invest in TUTV, they indicated their intrest in the past and own a mux and a half. Channel 5 wasn't best placed to operate a pay TV service when they are purely a free channel.

TUTV Anytime was a good idea but then the internet/ Virgin Media Cable On Demand came and entire series and catchup could be made availiable instantly. Timesharing ruined the linear TV service, customer confusion being my point and not the lack of capacity (although that had its own implications) but it was superior to TUTVA/TVF.
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Old 14-08-2012, 07:22
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How big a share do Channel 5 have in the service?

I posted awhile ago saying if TUTV was working with ITV, Channel 4 & Channel 5 then it could provide a much better service, well that what I thought at the time.

TUTV came in at a time when short term deals on airtime where fairly good, there was interest in simple month on month plug and play system and people liked it. When Anythime started things where rough from a variety of sources internal and external. And since they have lost airtime and providers, due to cost from thier offical posts on this issue and other outside factors, things have not improved. Sadly if there had been a partnership with one of the big TV companies at the outset then the service might have got a better overall position and be doing better now.

From other Freeview related posts I have seen over the last couple of years the service we got on Freeview was really just stuck together after OnDigital fellover and could have been better with more future proofing and service that factored in a pay tv opition that you could ahve opted in for with a suitable set top box and decoder card etc.

Whether this would have worked in the long run or been smashed by SKY who knows but it makes you think that the road less travelled always seems better with hindsight.

Depending how things turn out in the next six to twelve months TUTV might still surprise us you never know how things will turn out.
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Old 21-08-2012, 11:52
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I will stick around with my CAM showing ESPN whilst it is still on Top Up. The service suits me even if it may not suit others!
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Old 27-08-2012, 23:10
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I give up!

It's no surprise the majority of subscribers to TUTV don't use the forum and its full of Comedy Club merchants.
I agree....tis sad to see the same old names saying the same old things lol...not alot seems to have changed around here over the last couple of years
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Old 27-08-2012, 23:29
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Depending how things turn out in the next six to twelve months TUTV might still surprise us you never know how things will turn out.
Well, TV Time Mike, their executives really ought to get moving and do something before they get left behind. The bad news is that other companies have already taken advantage of the internet connection capability of Freeview HD boxes to offer new IPTV services to viewers on LCNs 110 upwards.

The good news for TUTV is that these other companies are showing mostly tat such as Chinese state news propaganda channels . If TUTV abandoned their expensive linear service, including their one remaining Freeview slot, and concentrated solely on cheaper IPTV delivery of channels such as UKTV GOLD, Watch, Alibi, Universal, Comedy Central, Eurosport, ESPN and possibly the new BT Vision sports channel then they might be on to a winner if the pricing were right since the capacity of linear Freeview is limited when compared with other broadcasting platforms.
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Old 27-08-2012, 23:51
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2 of the worst Freeview boxes we ever had (Thomson), used the tutv software, dreadful pieces of kit, it was a fairly good idea-tutv, but very badly implemented.
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Old 28-08-2012, 12:25
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A lot of Freeview HD boxes cannot receive the IPTV channels..... and guessing many owners of these aren't willing to replace their boxes for a box that can.

For TUTV to survive - they need to 'control' what is being offered via their encryption CAM, and put in place 'Live' channels that all TUTV boxes can receive (many new boxes don't have storage cabailities, and oly receive the sports channels from TUTV).

These 'Live' channels need to contain good content, and to be repeated less frequently.

Who want's to see Ghost Whisperer for n'th time ?

The 'downloaded' content never was sucessful for my box, with TUTV blaming everything, but themselves.
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Old 29-08-2012, 09:38
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It would appear unless I hear anything different before Friday that US Drama is coming to an end after Brothers & Sisters Ep24 series 3 ends on 30/08/2012.

Oddly enough the website states that Ghost Whisperer series 2 will run until 29/09/2012 but there is nothing for the US Drama provider after tomorrow on the what's on guide on the website inspite of this entry on the front page of the what's on section.

Asked my friend to email TUTV to see if there is a response forth coming on this.

After all if you advertise a service then do not provide that is false advertising and there is in basic terms an agreement between TUTV and us the users that they will provide a service upto at least the date they state.

The 14 day guide on the DTR also shows nothing new after tomorrow. I had hoped for Alias or Lost being repeated after Brother's and Sisters finished looks like not going to happen now.

If anything else comes up will let you know.

This is just a bummer, not all that happy at repeats but something is still better than nothing.
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Old 30-08-2012, 07:30
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Well according to Customer Service who got back to my friend, who he has alway found to be very helpful (asked to have this included), US Drama is to keep going at the moment even with there being no new shows listed on the tv guide.

Just have to wait and see.
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Old 31-08-2012, 22:23
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I agree....tis sad to see the same old names saying the same old things lol...not alot seems to have changed around here over the last couple of years
Your right but persistence is a virtue, just because you and the rest of the usual suspect don't agree doesn't mean anything, what does mean something is that the public at large know tutv is a load of rubbish, that's why tutv have hardly any customers and that's why tutv will fail and there's nothing you can do about it
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Old 31-08-2012, 22:57
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Your right but persistence is a virtue, just because you and the rest of the usual suspect don't agree doesn't mean anything, what does mean something is that the public at large know tutv is a load of rubbish, that's why tutv have hardly any customers and that's why tutv will fail and there's nothing you can do about it
I used to have TUTV and moved to BT Vision because it suited me better, but I wouldn't come on here gloating about TUTVs possible demise. The people who have and use TUTV must still be happy with the service so why not leave them alone? In fact I find your smiley faces quite offensive....
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Old 01-09-2012, 23:55
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Your right but persistence is a virtue,
Yes....3 years later after this lol

the weakest link in the chain is my G2.
YOU are the weakest link......goodbye
just because you and the rest of the usual suspect don't agree doesn't mean anything,
Awww am touched that you remember me...it's been so long

what does mean something is that the public at large know tutv is a load of rubbish, that's why tutv have hardly any customers
Am still enjoying watching TUTV progs....and don't care what the public at large think

and that's why tutv will fail and there's nothing you can do about it
I always support the underdog....that's why I drive a Rover, and was very sad when they went down that pan some 7 years ago.

Must be nearly 6 years now since TUTV Anytime first launched....not bad going for such a small company when you think of the size of the likes of the other TV providers
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Old 02-09-2012, 00:09
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They could be RealDigital .. that's a positive
Hmm, that company's website's routine maintenance is now complete and the website is live again http://realdigitaltv.com
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:13
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Hmm, that company's website's routine maintenance is now complete and the website is live again http://realdigitaltv.com
Nope, the website is still the same no changes and it still says that it is still Undergoing Maintenance
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