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New HD red button channel 304 - "301 HD" |
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New HD red button channel 304 - "301 HD"
LCN 304 has just appeared from Winter Hill on the BBC HD mux - named "301 HD". It is showing the same static video frame that was reported previously when the stream was hidden.
This is a temporary HD channel for the duration of the Olympics. |
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It's a pity that 304 is going to be a duplicate of what is on 301 in SD instead of giving us a real extra stream of Sport.
Might have been better to use the Mux space to give 'Freesat HD' two or three extra SD channels instead. |
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Afraid if you want more streams, you'll have to get Freesat or a good internet connection.
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It's a pity that 304 is going to be a duplicate of what is on 301 in SD instead of giving us a real extra stream of Sport..
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Hmm why 304, what is 303 being used for? I've had "301 HD" on my EPG for a while now, glad I got the name right.
![]() Would be nice for them to use this channel pre-Olympics too for things that are often relegated to the red button (e.g. Moto GP) but maybe they haven't got the playout facilities ready yet. |
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303 is used pre-DSO for the Mux B interactive stream. It used to carry BBC News Multiscreen, but now doesn't, and is just the LCN attached to BBC Red Button on Mux B.
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303 is used pre-DSO for the Mux B interactive stream. It used to carry BBC News Multiscreen, but now doesn't, and is just the LCN attached to BBC Red Button on Mux B.
No one has ever explained why but I think that certain early STBs could not display hidden channels without LCNs. |
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I'd always understood Cbeebies' Red Button Digital Text 5900 utilised 303. Resetting my PVR and STB next Wednesday here for the Dover transmitter so will take a look at how 5900 works then ...
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Nearly right! 305 carried the news multiscreen. 303 is used only in pre DSO areas for legacy compatibility with BBC teletext.
No one has ever explained why but I think that certain early STBs could not display hidden channels without LCNs. |
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I'd always understood Cbeebies' Red Button Text 5900 utilised 303. Resetting my PVR and STB next Wednesday here for the Dover transmitter so will figure out what's happened then
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Has it always been 305? At one point, I'm sure, 303 was used for split-screen BBC Parliament and two News Multiscreen screens.
Before 305 BBC Parliament only existed in quarter screen on LCN81 (with two other mini screens) previously LCN85 previously LCN45 (with 703 for data). Before Freeview LCN45 was audio only. 303 would have been removed years ago if it had no current function. |
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Before 305 BBC Parliament only existed in quarter screen on LCN81 (with two other mini screens) previously LCN85 previously LCN45 (with 703 for data).
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According to DMOL, the new LCN304 is not present on the temporary HD mux being radiated from Pontop Pyke. They could be wrong of course. Anyone know what's really going on in Tyneside?
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Anyone know what's really going on in Tyneside?
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According to DMOL, the new LCN304 is not present on the temporary HD mux being radiated from Pontop Pyke. They could be wrong of course. Anyone know what's really going on in Tyneside?
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Does the 'pre DSO' HD mux have a more robust set of parameters I wonder, if so the 5th slot simply won't fit!
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Nah it's identical and probably the same feed as an existing distribution either London or Granada. It almost certainly contains LCN117 The Space as well as LCN304. That would make two versions of the Space available from Pontop Pyke (one going into the 800s) but without confirmation we can't be sure.
I'd be surprised if 304 wasn't on there though. |
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If Pontop Pike is anything like here in Dover at the moment, you will be seeing two CBBCs, one at 70 -with the programmes -and another at 73 with an onscreen message.
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304 is being carried by the HD multiplex on Pontop Pike. I think it came on last night as I had to re-tune one of my sets. Ignore my stated location as I've just moved back 'up north'
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304 is being carried by the HD multiplex on Pontop Pike. I think it came on last night as I had to re-tune one of my sets. Ignore my stated location as I've just moved back 'up north'
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Thank you very much for that. Could you also confirm whether the HD mux is carrying LCN117 The Space as well as it being on Mux B? If so there should be a version in the 800s on Pontop Pyke only.
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301HD has appeared on LCN 304 via Wenvoe, just retuned my Bush DVB 680 to get it
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Ray. It is Pike not Pyke.
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Ray ( or Rai?) yes Pontop Pike is broadcasting 117; I tried yesterday and couldn't make the Internet connection but it is working fine today via Sony set WiFi and Virgin Hub.
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Ray ( or Rai?) yes Pontop Pike is broadcasting 117; I tried yesterday and couldn't make the Internet connection but it is working fine today via Sony set WiFi and Virgin Hub.
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