[Reiver97]

Of those listed on the DS piece, I reckon it might be Derek.

Ray doesnt seem the type. A flirt but not a cheat.

Michael, after what he has just done to Jean? Seems unlikely.

Max. I cant see him cheating on Tanya (at the moment) and if he knocked back Roxy (who may be a past it tramp, but still a hundred times better than Kat - Alfie you mug, you listening?)

So that leaves sleazy, toad-like Derek. So why would Kat go for Derek? Well, she hates herself, she cheats as a form of self-abuse, a reflection of her childhood abuse. And who abused her? Some sleazy toad-like creep.

Who, in demeanour and looks bares more than a passing similarity to Derek?
Dirty old Harry Slater.

What better way to degrade and demean herself than cheat on a decent loving loyal man like Alfie with some ugly sleazebag who reminds her of the man who molested her as a kid?

[sw2963]

As some have posted I think its Michael

[VirginiaDem]

Originally Posted by Reiver97

Of those listed on the DS piece, I reckon it might be Derek.

Ray doesnt seem the type. A flirt but not a cheat.

Michael, after what he has just done to Jean? Seems unlikely.

Max. I cant see him cheating on Tanya (at the moment) and if he knocked back Roxy (who may be a past it tramp, but still a hundred times better than Kat - Alfie you mug, you listening?)

So that leaves sleazy, toad-like Derek. So why would Kat go for Derek? Well, she hates herself, she cheats as a form of self-abuse, a reflection of her childhood abuse. And who abused her? Some sleazy toad-like creep.

Who, in demeanour and looks bares more than a passing similarity to Derek?
Dirty old Harry Slater.

What better way to degrade and demean herself than cheat on a decent loving loyal man like Alfie with some ugly sleazebag who reminds her of the man who molested her as a kid?

Don't even go there.

That's precisely what will happen and we'll get weeks of "I'm-a-dirty-girl" garbage thrown at Alfie again while she whines on about that's the way she is, men smell slut on her - well, who wouldn't, when you parade around to a posh wedding with your boobs hanging out the front of your dress? That's the line she'll cry about to make herself out the victim in this again, when she is the villain of the piece.

If she's got a problem, she needs to seek professional help, not beat her husband with a moral stick. Otherwise, she needs to be called out for the slut she is and flung out.

Bigger characters than Kat (Pat Evans) with better morals (Sharon Watts) have been flung to the curb for cheating on their husbands.

Kat needs to step up to the plate and face the music.

[Tal'shiar]

I am pretty sure it will be with Stella. Even though that would break some form of reality...

I think it could be Ray, but that wouldnt be much of an affair as he is a nobody in many ways.

If its Jack because of the baby connection, that will be shit. If its Max it will be even worse. If its Derek I will just have to stop watching the show. Anyone else and it doesnt matter.

Why are they trying to bring about a new and better Kat, when the only plan is to dog up this relationship with yet another affair. I hope its Alfie for a change, just a little ray of hope.

[VirginiaDem]

Originally Posted by Tal'shiar

I am pretty sure it will be with Stella. Even though that would break some form of reality...

I think it could be Ray, but that wouldnt be much of an affair as he is a nobody in many ways.

If its Jack because of the baby connection, that will be shit. If its Max it will be even worse. If its Derek I will just have to stop watching the show. Anyone else and it doesnt matter.

Why are they trying to bring about a new and better Kat, when the only plan is to dog up this relationship with yet another affair. I hope its Alfie for a change, just a little ray of hope.

This lot totally got her character wrong from the getgo. She had been totally redeemed in 2005. They haven't even regressed her, they've mutated her.

Characters are defined by their storylines. Ronnie always met tragedy around the corner. Bianca is always poor. They've made it plain from the onset, when she returned pregnant by another man, that this Kat was a total shagaround slut who wouldn't accept any responsibility for her actions and who abused her husband. If the only storyline they can conceive for her is a guessing game of shag artists, then I think it's time to call time on this character.

[los.kav]

Originally Posted by VirginiaDem

This lot totally got her character wrong from the getgo. She had been totally redeemed in 2005. They haven't even regressed her, they've mutated her.

Characters are defined by their storylines. Ronnie always met tragedy around the corner. Bianca is always poor. They've made it plain from the onset, when she returned pregnant by another man, that this Kat was a total shagaround slut who wouldn't accept any responsibility for her actions and who abused her husband. If the only storyline they can conceive for her is a guessing game of shag artists, then I think it's time to call time on this character.

This.

[kenny7]

The fallout from it being Michael would be epic

[los.kav]

Originally Posted by kenny7

The fallout from it being Michael would be epic

It would: it would also be entertaining to watch Alfie cast them both out of his life. SJS doesn't seem like the type of actor to stick around long, so I could see him leaving if he's revealed to be the one, but if they want to put Kat in the mud (import some from somewhere, please!) homeless and crying (rain too, for the giggles) because she's a slag and a victim or whatever, I'll happily watch that. The only way this story is going to be any good is if she and Alfie are trying to spice up their relationship with an elaborate role-playing game, or if she doesn't sleep with the person and has an emotional affair and keeps her knickers on.

[Hedra]

Originally Posted by kenny7

The fallout from it being Michael would be epic

It really wouldn't. I'd choose for it to be Ben over Michael.

[s15859]

When doesn't she have an "affair?"

[valtimmy]

Originally Posted by rapunzel4

how about like in corrie 'who killed frank' and it was none of the line-up?

random but - iain? phil? anthony? (cue the exit)

or........

sharon? kim?

if its good enough for sonia....

I was thinking just the same as you. Great minds eh?

[tenchgirl]

I wish they would just split them up and put Alfie & Roxy together one this latest shag reveal is over, Kat should be kicked to the kerb & if she don't leave then the 3 pointless screechers should throw tyler & ant out and take the slater house back while roxy & alfie run the vic for phil.

[Jayma]

Originally Posted by los.kav

It would: it would also be entertaining to watch Alfie cast them both out of his life. SJS doesn't seem like the type of actor to stick around long, so I could see him leaving if he's revealed to be the one, but if they want to put Kat in the mud (import some from somewhere, please!) homeless and crying (rain too, for the giggles) because she's a slag and a victim or whatever, I'll happily watch that. The only way this story is going to be any good is if she and Alfie are trying to spice up their relationship with an elaborate role-playing game, or if she doesn't sleep with the person and has an emotional affair and keeps her knickers on.

I agree with this. Alfie threatened to finish Michael, which may plant a seed in Michael's head. He hates being told what to do by others, so for him, attack may be the best form of defence, in showing Alfie who's boss by sleeping with his wife under his nose this time. Also Kat told Michael she loved him once (really?) which will have massaged his ego.

He should be preoccupied with his sick daughter and new bride, but he may see another dalliance with Kat as being a welcome distraction from the harsh reality of the situtation with his wife and daughter that he's largely responsible for. Also, the reveal would give a valid reason for Janine to leave later in the year.

I really hope it isn't Michael. If they take him down this route, I see it as being the end of the character unless SJS reappears in a couple of years' time.

I think this pairing would be the one with the most fallout, so therefore is the most likely. If it is, I think the reveal will be Michael's exit storyline.

I'd like to think it was Ray, but my money's now on Michael.

[MarcoRossi]

whoever it is I'm not looking forward to endless duff duff moments the whole plot will be getting such as Kat emerging out of someone's bed or flat, the mystery bloke's body parts being shown vaguely to keep us guessing, Alfie half sussing out the situation etc etc we've seen it all before and it's just boring stuff now.

[VirginiaDem]

Originally Posted by Jayma

I agree with this. Alfie threatened to finish Michael, which may plant a seed in Michael's head. He hates being told what to do by others, so for him, attack may be the best form of defence, in showing Alfie who's boss by sleeping with his wife under his nose this time. Also Kat told Michael she loved him once (really?) which will have massaged his ego.

He should be preoccupied with his sick daughter and new bride, but he may see another dalliance with Kat as being a welcome distraction from the harsh reality of the situtation with his wife and daughter that he's largely responsible for. Also, the reveal would give a valid reason for Janine to leave later in the year.

I really hope it isn't Michael. If they take him down this route, I see it as being the end of the character unless SJS reappears in a couple of years' time.

I think this pairing would be the one with the most fallout, so therefore is the most likely. If it is, I think the reveal will be Michael's exit storyline.

I'd like to think it was Ray, but my money's now on Michael.

Someone's got to leave at the end of this storyline. Time was, when there was an infidelity and/or a marriage broke up, one of the two people left the Square. That's still true - Jane Beale left and so did Ricky. Honey left Billy when they split.

But for real hardcore infidelities involving whoever fronts the Vic, the reveal has to be public, it has to be humiliating for the guilty party and the guilty party has to leave Walford.

Better characters than Kat have been made to suffer, and suffer publically, for what she's about to do.

Sharon, for one. Who can forget Sharongate? And - apart from Michelle and Pat - Sharon was shunned. She eventually left Walford and Grant. Then there was Patgate, when Peggy learned that Frank and Pat had been having an affair under her nose. Bonfire night, and Peggy smacking Frank, then Pat so hard she knocked an earring off. Frank was made to leave Walford, and Pat was left homeless in the rain when Roy kicked her out. Even though they eventually reconciled, they quarrelled when it was discovered that Pat knew that Natalie, Barry's wife was being unfaithful with Ricky, and Roy had a heart attack and died in the middle of their quarrel. Then Barry threw Pat out.

For this storyline to work, whoever it is, Kat has got to leave Walford at its end, because she's the offending, guilty party.

What you said about Michael all makes sense, and it would certainly aid in Charlie Brooks leaving - however, Janine isn't the type to run from a marital break-up. She would stay and fight. There's got to be something else that makes her leave.

I've no doubt SJS isn't for the long-term and that he will leave the Square in shame as well, but that will be of Janine's doing, and I think it will have something to do Janine's money.

I actually think the sugar-shagger might be Derek. He has a motive also - Alfie scammed him big time, and what better way to humiliate Alfie than to get a leg-over with the slut he married, then step on her in the gutter after her old man's thrown her out. Because Derek wouldn't give a monkey's.

I'm not looking forward to this storyline because TPTB have presented is as some sort of good-time adventure guessing game, when it's a sordid tale of a slag sleeping around on her husband who's got nothing wrong. It means Jessie Wallace will be getting all kinds of airtime, and quite honestly, she makes me sick to look at her as Kat right now.

One thing I don't want to see is Kat being made a victim again, shifting the blame on Alfie, them reconciling or Alfie leaving the Vic. Alfie should stay put. He has the moral high ground.

[priscilla]

Originally Posted by Jayma

I agree with this. Alfie threatened to finish Michael, which may plant a seed in Michael's head. He hates being told what to do by others, so for him, attack may be the best form of defence, in showing Alfie who's boss by sleeping with his wife under his nose this time. Also Kat told Michael she loved him once (really?) which will have massaged his ego.

He should be preoccupied with his sick daughter and new bride, but he may see another dalliance with Kat as being a welcome distraction from the harsh reality of the situtation with his wife and daughter that he's largely responsible for. Also, the reveal would give a valid reason for Janine to leave later in the year.

I really hope it isn't Michael. If they take him down this route, I see it as being the end of the character unless SJS reappears in a couple of years' time.

I think this pairing would be the one with the most fallout, so therefore is the most likely. If it is, I think the reveal will be Michael's exit storyline.

I'd like to think it was Ray, but my money's now on Michael.

i also hope its not him, and as you said he should be preoccupied with his family not shagging kat
but the fallout would have the greatest impact, and i have seen rumours that SJS could be leaving after his contract ends, so maybe it is
if it is i would cry, it would ruin one of my favourite couple jamichael relationship

[lovelife7292]

Joey??????? She would make a hot suga mama/ cougar whatever the term is

[bass55]

Originally Posted by VirginiaDem

I'm not looking forward to this storyline because TPTB have presented is as some sort of good-time adventure guessing game, when it's a sordid tale of a slag sleeping around on her husband who's got nothing wrong. It means Jessie Wallace will be getting all kinds of airtime, and quite honestly, she makes me sick to look at her as Kat right now.

One thing I don't want to see is Kat being made a victim again, shifting the blame on Alfie, them reconciling or Alfie leaving the Vic. Alfie should stay put. He has the moral high ground.

Completely agree, especially with BIB. The 'mystery man' element is nothing but a cheap gimmick, designed simply to add excitement to what sounds like another tedious, sleazy affair storyline. When this affair comes out, Kat should be thrown out of the Vic and into the gutter where she belongs. They cannot make Kat the victim this time. We have seen Alfie regaining his backbone recently (standing up to Derek, threatening Michael), so hopefully he will do the right thing when it comes to his wife.

[Ryan_Abbott1]

I really hope it's not Max. I think it could be either Jack or Derek. I would have liked it to have been Anthony or Joey however x

[VirginiaDem]

Originally Posted by bass55

Completely agree, especially with BIB. The 'mystery man' element is nothing but a cheap gimmick, designed simply to add excitement to what sounds like another tedious, sleazy affair storyline. When this affair comes out, Kat should be thrown out of the Vic and into the gutter where she belongs. They cannot make Kat the victim this time. We have seen Alfie regaining his backbone recently (standing up to Derek, threatening Michael), so hopefully he will do the right thing when it comes to his wife.

Also, I cannot see the time they invested in his burgeoning friendship with Roxy only to have it used as a plot device either to reunite Alfie and Kat or simply to show him holding the moral high ground.

That was genuinely an affair of the heart. They were two lonely people who found each other. Roxy confessed her true feelings for him, and he reminded her he was a married man. I think Roxy's confession has caused Alfie to think about his marriage and about the way he's been treated. The way Kat treated him Friday was absolutely appalling - and completely in character with this entitled bitch they have now strutting about Walford showing everyone her tits and exhibiting how capable she is.

I really hope this reveal shows him shoving her out of the pub, along with the old lag and the screeching banshie who live there as well. But, since this is Eastenders, and a male character cannot be shown as competent in anyway.

[Jayma]

Originally Posted by VirginiaDem

Someone's got to leave at the end of this storyline. Time was, when there was an infidelity and/or a marriage broke up, one of the two people left the Square. That's still true - Jane Beale left and so did Ricky. Honey left Billy when they split.

But for real hardcore infidelities involving whoever fronts the Vic, the reveal has to be public, it has to be humiliating for the guilty party and the guilty party has to leave Walford.

Better characters than Kat have been made to suffer, and suffer publically, for what she's about to do.

Sharon, for one. Who can forget Sharongate? And - apart from Michelle and Pat - Sharon was shunned. She eventually left Walford and Grant. Then there was Patgate, when Peggy learned that Frank and Pat had been having an affair under her nose. Bonfire night, and Peggy smacking Frank, then Pat so hard she knocked an earring off. Frank was made to leave Walford, and Pat was left homeless in the rain when Roy kicked her out. Even though they eventually reconciled, they quarrelled when it was discovered that Pat knew that Natalie, Barry's wife was being unfaithful with Ricky, and Roy had a heart attack and died in the middle of their quarrel. Then Barry threw Pat out.

For this storyline to work, whoever it is, Kat has got to leave Walford at its end, because she's the offending, guilty party.

What you said about Michael all makes sense, and it would certainly aid in Charlie Brooks leaving - however, Janine isn't the type to run from a marital break-up. She would stay and fight. There's got to be something else that makes her leave.

I've no doubt SJS isn't for the long-term and that he will leave the Square in shame as well, but that will be of Janine's doing, and I think it will have something to do Janine's money.

I actually think the sugar-shagger might be Derek. He has a motive also - Alfie scammed him big time, and what better way to humiliate Alfie than to get a leg-over with the slut he married, then step on her in the gutter after her old man's thrown her out. Because Derek wouldn't give a monkey's.

I'm not looking forward to this storyline because TPTB have presented is as some sort of good-time adventure guessing game, when it's a sordid tale of a slag sleeping around on her husband who's got nothing wrong. It means Jessie Wallace will be getting all kinds of airtime, and quite honestly, she makes me sick to look at her as Kat right now.

One thing I don't want to see is Kat being made a victim again, shifting the blame on Alfie, them reconciling or Alfie leaving the Vic. Alfie should stay put. He has the moral high ground.

Agree with what you're saying here. I certainly accept that the Janine/Michael split is likely to involve her money. As you've said, someone has to leave, and it's possible that someone is Janine in this storyline. But it would make sense for her to leave on this occasion, as she can afford to go and live somewhere more upmarket, and the difference in this situtation is that she will (hopefully) have her daughter to take with her. She may decide Michael isn't fit to lace the baby's booties and take her away from him. Who could blame her? And that's me speaking as a Michael fan! Unless the reason she leaves is that the baby has complications and dies within the next few weeks, having the effect of emotionally crippling them and she feels she has to get away. Otherwise, with the timing of it all, with a potential reveal I fear it's Michael.

Your take on Derek being the potential bloke is interesting and one I'd not thought of.

Like you, I am not looking forward to the storyline. The only interesting slant on it is that Kat actually isn't in it for the sex, but comes to depend on the person in question emotionally, and that's pushing it, as she has someone who has worshipped her in Alfie. That would be a huge slap in the face for him.

I'm sure if TBTB did a survey of least liked storylines amongst their viewers, having an affair would probably be top. And in EE, a large proportion of viewers, from what I've seen on many mediums, want Kat and Alfie to have some happiness to remind us why they became an iconic couple. So they decide their blockbuster summer storyline is going to be Kat having an affair.

Originally Posted by priscilla

i also hope its not him, and as you said he should be preoccupied with his family not shagging kat
but the fallout would have the greatest impact, and i have seen rumours that SJS could be leaving after his contract ends, so maybe it is
if it is i would cry, it would ruin one of my favourite couple jamichael relationship

Yes, it's a shame Charlie Brooks' departure has redirectioned their relationship, which I think could have become iconic over time if nurtured properly.

Still Charlie Brooks seems hopeful her break isn't the end for them and sees them having a future, so maybe she knows something about SJS's contract that we don't!

[madetomeasure]

It's Winston. He decides he wants to have a speaking part and his line will be Kat you slag I want you. he'll then go back to his market stall and that will be it, except for when Tracey overhears him and mutters winston you are awful but i like you. She then gets back behind the bar of the vic and everyone pretends things are normal.

[troy4783]

ok I now decided I think its going to be Jack

[madetomeasure]

Originally Posted by troy4783

ok I now decided I think its going to be Jack

by what now after all this time would he decide he wanted the dirt bag? I think it will be Ray purely for the implications it will have on Kat/Kim's friendship

[troy4783]

Originally Posted by madetomeasure

by what now after all this time would he decide he wanted the dirt bag? I think it will be Ray purely for the implications it will have on Kat/Kim's friendship

Thats true i think it will be either Jack or Ray but I'm leaning towards Jack as Ray is not really a big Character atm