[SULLA]

Originally Posted by DMN1968

Rather than limiting it to goal line technology, I would like to see something that gets rid off all shocking decisions that can ruin a game as a contest.

For example, someone diving in the box to get a penalty, an off the ball incident that the ref does not see, someone getting sent off when they committed a perfectly good tackle, a goal that was yards offside. I can accept that there are a lot of grey areas - eg penalties that may or may not be given - its the clear cut decisions that are clearly wrong that should be eradicated.

I would do something similar to what they do in cricket - allow each team a couple of "reviews" and only get the decision changed if it is clear the ref had made a mistake.

I agree. We need to get the very important decisions correct.

[BomoLad]

Originally Posted by celesti

I remember ISS Pro on PS1, thinking that they'd got Bergkamp's likeness dead-on when it was just a white guy with a yellow block on his head. Now I'm appalled if they don't accurate animate John Terry's 8000 wrinkles. Innocent days.

I remember yonks ago on some old format game there was this football game that was quite good but it had players names slightly off, presumably for copyright reasons.

Paul Skouls and David Beecham etc

[BigBmad]

Originally Posted by BomoLad

I remember yonks ago on some old format game there was this football game that was quite good but it had players names slightly off, presumably for copyright reasons.

Paul Skouls and David Beecham etc

Haha yes I remember that sure it popped up something like P. Skouls.

Mainly remember because laughing at my friend during a match when he said something like 'that was a good shot by Peter Skouls'

[TRIPS]

Originally Posted by Red Okktober

Thats what it seems like, The traditionalists love to tell us how it will slow the game down despite them not actually being presented with a method yet of how the technology will be used

That's exactly what ive argued for years, the few against technology argue that the game will have to stop for a replay so technology doesn't work, when you point out that the game can still continue while it's being reviewed they just have no answer.
eg, Ref not sure the ball crossed the line for a goal,ref holds his arm up to signal play to be reviewed,play continues, a decision would be made in seconds upstairs, no goal play obviously continues, if the ball has crossed the line the ref would whistle for a goal and stop play,
Play would have already stopped if someone had scored but was offside, it would only take seconds to review and rule out.

[celesti]

ISS Pro had that. The likenesses were there, but Rolando up top for Brazil and the like. Man, the hours I'd spend correcting those squads.

[Red Okktober]

Originally Posted by BigBmad

Fair points. But tbh I think too much technology would take the fun out the game, throw in 22 robots whilst your there and we could have Man City signing Robo-Messi VI in the year 2045

But I personally am all for goal line technology as those are massive decisions regarding the games. Other technologies no at least for now

Would you object if some time in the future all the players were chipped, the ball was chipped and some super computer scanned the play. It would also be able to detect foul play and cheating as well as line decisions

A ref would still be required to man manage the players but every decision was made by and relayed to him by the computer. The play would still be free flowing as the computer would give instant decisions

All the reffing decisions would be 100% correct as opposed to what we have now

I've heard some people claim that bad decisons are good 'talking points' and are therefore good for the game, something I disagree with. How about you?

[BigBmad]

Originally Posted by Red Okktober

Would you object if some time in the future all the players were chipped, the ball was chipped and some super computer scanned the play. It would also be able to detect foul play and cheating as well as line decisions

A ref would still be required to man manage the players but every decision was made by and relayed to him by the computer. The play would still be free flowing as the computer would give instant decisions

All the reffing decisions would be 100% correct as opposed to what we have now

I've heard some people claim that bad decisons are good 'talking points' and are therefore good for the game, something I disagree with. How about you?

See all that sounds good in theory but then when you come to foul play or diving some of it can be very subjective (obviously there are some blatant ones ) Even with technology like you mentioned I feel it would still need some human input.

I think if you introduced them all at the same time it would take the talking points away from the game. But as what will happen anyways, overtime people will get used to it. I'm sure the players will provide talking points.

Goal line technology- Needed and will be with us at some point in near future.

Offside technology- On the whole linesmen do a good job and if your offside your offside. So couldn't have too much objection when I really think of it.

I feel these two would actually improve the game. Apart from those I think other sorts of technology would be taking the human side out of the game too much. But players should still be punished with bans or after game yellow cards for diving.

So you've won me over quite a bit

[wolvesdavid]

Some of the computer games I have played football on, have wrong decisions programmed into the game and I have been on the end of some of them!

[Kharhaz]

Originally Posted by axlgod

When Sepp Blatter has seen evidence of a decision that has fallen in favour of the England team, you can put your house on it.

THIS. Now its gone in favour of England, you can all but guarantee goal line technology will take a massive step forward.

[wolvesdavid]

Anyway all the referee has to do is to stop the game and restart it with a competitive drop ball if it isn't a goal, to stop a situation happening like tonight where England nearly went down the other end to score.

I've heard some people claim "well what if the ball doesn't go out of play for another 5 minutes" and silly suggestions like that. You have to have a rule that the ball is out of play if they review an incident using goal line technology and that is what would happen!

Situations like tonight would not be allowed to happen.

[TRIPS]

Originally Posted by BigBmad

See all that sounds good in theory but then when you come to foul play or diving some of it can be very subjective (obviously there are some blatant ones ) Even with technology like you mentioned I feel it would still need some human input.

I think if you introduced them all at the same time it would take the talking points away from the game. But as what will happen anyways, overtime people will get used to it. I'm sure the players will provide talking points.

Goal line technology- Needed and will be with us at some point in near future.

Offside technology- On the whole linesmen do a good job and if your offside your offside. So couldn't have too much objection when I really think of it.

I feel these two would actually improve the game. Apart from those I think other sorts of technology would be taking the human side out of the game too much. But players should still be punished with bans or after game yellow cards for diving.

So you've won me over quite a bit

Yes i agree, most pens are a matter of opinion, we can watch replay after replay and still disagree,
no technology would change this,

[grimtales1]

Originally Posted by Astra 1A

Once TV replays are fully implemented for all decisions (and one day it will), will they rewind to the point were Ukraine were offside...

The ball did cross the line though and it wasnt like they consulted and decided it wasnt a goal - play was just waved on. It wasnt quite as blatant as Bloufontein (sp?) but it was over. The 5th official's view looked blocked to me.

[grimtales1]

Originally Posted by BomoLad

I remember yonks ago on some old format game there was this football game that was quite good but it had players names slightly off, presumably for copyright reasons.

Paul Skouls and David Beecham etc

Sounds like ISS on N64 to me, the commentary on that game was hilarious

[SSReporters]

Here's another one from MLS this last Sunday that's actually more obvious because it was on the ground. Again, no goal given but Chicago scored not even 2 minutes later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...ALoM6E8#t=259s

Most goal/no-goal situations are pretty clear-cut. I don't think a technology advancement would delay the game that much. Whoever created the tennis instant replay should try and develop one for football.

[bobcar]

Originally Posted by BomoLad

It shows how video replays can't really be used for anything in football, even goal-line decisions. As you say, where would you have stopped the game tonight. If you stopped it just after the goal-line clearance, if it's not a goal do we restart it with a dropball inches away from the goal line?

Hawk-eye or other similar technology is workable. Video isn't and won't ever be.

All you need is officials watching the game on video, as soon as they see the player was offside they tell the ref and the game is stopped, very easy and no need for any delay. Let the linesman keep his flag down for difficult decisions, within a few seconds the ref can know the real case.

[Chelseafan101]

Originally Posted by ScottHarris

Oh here we go , let's turn another thread into Terry bashing thread . Suarez admitted to what he said , get the hell over it. Terry said he didn't say it and i believe him, he deserves to be there as much as anyone else . In my opinion i think it's BS that he had the captaincy taken from him.

Well, you know how it is with Chelsea: Guilty until proven innocent, then guilty anyway.

[gomezz]

Originally Posted by wolvesdavid

You have to have a rule that the ball is out of play if they review an incident using goal line technology and that is what would happen!

Absolutely not! That would totally eliminate exciting counter attacks.

[gomezz]

Originally Posted by grimtales1

The 5th official's view looked blocked to me.

Pratini will probably push for goalposts made of glass.

[roddydogs]

Didnt make any difference 1-1 gives Eng the group, and Ukr out.

[Cissy Fairfax]

From the replays I saw I was not convinced every mm of the ball was.over every mm of the line. But it was offside anyway.

[Deep Purple]

Of course we need goal line technology, but in this case, it was not as clear cut in real time as some previous incidents have been.

At the speed play was going, the official would have been guessing, because he couldn't have been certain that the whole of the ball had crossed the line. We are always saying that they should not guess.

Justice was done anyway, because of the offside.

[grimtales1]

He was offside but wasnt flagged as such
I guess it wasnt certain all the ball crossed the line though it did look as if it was so (zoomed in and slowed down). I couldnt tell in real time. In South Africa, it blatantly did (in real time it was easy to see).

[fab cesc]

Obviously Im all for goal line technology but its not perfect.

Take yesterday for example, the guys using the technology would have seen the replays and known the guy was offside. Im assuming though that because they are only there to look at whether the ball has crossed the line or not they would have to had still given it despite knowing that actually it wasn't a goal.

Hopefully some sort of system for offsides will come along soon after.

[KookyKatie]

Why don't they have a limited number of challenges which can be reviewed by a TV referee/umpire, the way they do in tennis and cricket?

As long as the number is sensible (say 3), I don't see how it would slow things down any more than incensed players chasing referees for poor decisions that never get overturned. At most, we're talking about a couple of extra minutes for all the challenges.

[The Turk]

Originally Posted by axlgod

When Sepp Blatter has seen evidence of a decision that has fallen in favour of the England team, you can put your house on it.

Sure enough, today I listened to the radio and heard Sepp Blatter say Ukraine's dissalowed goal against England has made goal-line technology "essential rather than an alternative".