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How does M.I.A have a record deal?! She is completely tone deaf!
It even happened during the set when Kanye appeared with Jay-Z. Kanye's stopped working, he swapped with Jay-Z then Jay-Z went to the side of the stage and got a new mic from the roadie/stage-hand. As for the actual Jay-Z set, i'm well proud of the BBC! They showed the WHOLE of the entire Jay-Z set tonight at Hackney which included Rihanna, M.I.A and Kanye West. The WHOLE entire set and it was f*cking fantastic! It was absolutely amazing! This IS how you do it! This is a big American US artist and he allowed BBC to show the entire gig without interruption! Amazing! Great songs, great tunes and Paris! Nuff said! |
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She's not even average! She's AWFUL!
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Guys quick question.. They shown all of Jay Z's set last night which was great but I checked for tonight (24th) and they're not showing all of Rihanna on BBC3! Anywhere where I can watch it all live? I really want to see all of Rihannas set!
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Just checked out Jay-Z on wikipedia surprised by his lack of sales in the UK as well, considering the amount of exposure he get's with the press / media.Definately an issue as far as impartiality is concerned with the BBC I would have thought.Jay-Z may have made millions / billions OUT of the music industry but in the UK he not particulary that popular as an individual musical artist it seems.Not sure what type of live following he get's over here mind.
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M.I.A. isn't a commercially successful artist but she's definitely a critically acclaimed one and everyone in the hip-hop/urban world knows of her.
Watching it back now and I feel really bad for her when the mic turned off. It was so awkward watching it and you could tell she got upset and it affected her when she was singing 'Bad Girls'.Jay-Z has been my favourite headlining slot ever on one of these big weekends and he showed why he is the biggest rapper atm. His set was incredible imo. People who don't enjoy rap/hip-hop are obviously not gonna agree but I don't think you can disagree with the fact that he put on a great show and that the crowd loved it. |
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Just checked out Jay-Z on wikipedia surprised by his lack of sales in the UK as well, considering the amount of exposure he get's with the press / media.Definately an issue as far as impartiality is concerned with the BBC I would have thought.Jay-Z may have made millions / billions OUT of the music industry but in the UK he not particulary that popular as an individual musical artist it seems.Not sure what type of live following he get's over her mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z_discography For instance, I go to lots of concerts but I NEVER buy the albums as they're always easy to access online for free and I know many of my friends are the same, but if the artist was going on tour i'd happily go and see them so maybe that's why although he doesn't sell well here in albums, he gets alot of people going to his tour, I think he sold out like 5 nights at the O2. |
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Guys quick question.. They shown all of Jay Z's set last night which was great but I checked for tonight (24th) and they're not showing all of Rihanna on BBC3! Anywhere where I can watch it all live? I really want to see all of Rihannas set!
(she's always late!)I can already tell she's gonna get slated for tomorrow night's performance though. She didn't sound at her best tonight when she was doing Run This Town.
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Just checked out Jay-Z on wikipedia surprised by his lack of sales in the UK as well, considering the amount of exposure he get's with the press / media.Definately an issue as far as impartiality is concerned with the BBC I would have thought.Jay-Z may have made millions / billions OUT of the music industry but in the UK he not particulary that popular as an individual musical artist it seems.Not sure what type of live following he get's over here mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z_discography Look at Big Pimpin' and 99 Problems. Those songs were released 10 years ago, and did badly in the charts, but 10 years later everybody still knows those songs, and they're classics now. Even his most recent hit, Niggas in Paris *only* got to #10, but that seems like one of the biggest hits of the year in some ways. With regards to M.I.A, she had one massive hit, Paper Planes in 2008, but the rest of her songs haven't really been big. The only reason she has the "indie" credibility really is because Paper Planes had political themes in it, so of course the NME types were all jumping on her and claiming her as their own at the time (and Paper Planes even charted high on the alternative airplay chart, even though there is NOTHING alternative about it, it's a hip hop song). I do really like M.I.A though, but she does hip hop, electronica, dance, pop music, not alternative. |
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There were definetely a lot of sound issues tonight whilst watching BBC3's coverage. I can't expect it to be perfect since it's a live event but at least make sure the mics are turned on and working properly! It happens every year at any live event. You think they'd check the mics before the artist comes out on stage.
On a sidenote i would love to see Kanye headline an event in the UK like this sometime. Jay-Z's a legend but Kanye is up there at the top of his game for the past few years now and he's definetely got a back catalogue where a lot of people KNOW his songs! When's the last time he ever headlined a show? Has he ever? I would book him without a shadow of a doubt (but i know he'd be a right pain in the ass beforehand! High maintenance that bloke unlike Jay-Z).
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Watch the Throne album is number 1 on iTunes right now
![]() Black album 22, greatest hits 23, blueprint 3 at 80 4 Jay z and Kanye tracks in top 200, 5 Jay Z solo tracks. I missed the start, so may have missed it, but i was gutted he didn't do encore. That deserves to be a huge hit, "I came, I saw, I Conquered" is one of my favourite lines in music ever. |
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M.I.A. isn't a commercially successful artist but she's definitely a critically acclaimed she's signed to Jay-z you mean, who has a large influence over the critical urban scene media concerns one and everyone in the hip-hop/urban world knows of her[ Jay-z urban media influence again
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M.I.A is signed to Interscope isn't she? Same label as Madonna, and also notably Fergie, Nelly Furtado and Gwen Stefani, (all of which she was often compared to at the start of mainstream success, due to their rap-singing hip hop/pop/dance styles).
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......money buys influence.XL spend more individually on promotion than most Major label's even - M.I.A.'s label when she 'sort of' broke into the mainstream.Jay-z hasn't been able to back up any traction she had with XL though.She got the collaboration slot on Madonna's album perhap's.Madonna's signed to Live Nation / Roc Nation (Jay-z) 50-50 partnership with Live Nation of course.Rita Ora signed to Roc Nation as well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roc_Nation - where's the impartiality BBC
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With regards to M.I.A, she had one massive hit, Paper Planes in 2008
Went 3 x platinum in US & Canada mind.Not a big hit in the UK though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.I.A._discography#Singles
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It got to No.19 in the UK charts
Went 3 x platinum in US & Canada mind.Not a big hit in the UK though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.I.A._discography#SinglesDon't use the charts to see what's popular. Look where 99 Problems by Jay-Z charted, for example. And a lot of songs that get to #1, hardly anybody knows them. Paper Planes is a very well-known song for those that were following mainstream music in 2008/2009. |
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this is all speculation and littered with inaccuracies. maybe read the the wikipedia links you post thoroughly before posting.
As a 100% independent, can XL afford to take greater chances on artists? We don’t put that many records out. We put release six to ten albums a year. And we invest very heavily in the ones that we do. We spend as much if not more than the majors do. We just don’t deal with that many records. Also :- Right now we’re having a massive hit in the US with M.I.A. ’s ‘Paper Planes’. We sold a million singles in the US over the last few weeks. And it’s just about to explode worldwide. I’ve been working with M.I.A. in a very close way for five years now. And it has taken to this point for things to really start happening. I think she’s an artist who affects culture and affects how other people make music. That’s a big part of my vision for the label. We work with people or trying to find people who’ve got the potential to do that. ----- last bit is based on personal (Richard Russell's) own opinion - he let her go to Roc Nation though when her success wained / was a one US-Canadian hit wonder. Read more: http://www.hitquarters.com/index.php...#ixzz1yfixrvIN |
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What M.I.A. wasn't signed to XL - it mention's her here in this article actually - picked out this bit
As a 100% independent, can XL afford to take greater chances on artists? We don’t put that many records out. We put release six to ten albums a year. And we invest very heavily in the ones that we do. We spend as much if not more than the majors do. We just don’t deal with that many records. Also :- Right now we’re having a massive hit in the US with M.I.A. ’s ‘Paper Planes’. We sold a million singles in the US over the last few weeks. And it’s just about to explode worldwide. I’ve been working with M.I.A. in a very close way for five years now. And it has taken to this point for things to really start happening. I think she’s an artist who affects culture and affects how other people make music. That’s a big part of my vision for the label. We work with people or trying to find people who’ve got the potential to do that. ----- last bit is based on personal (Richard Russell's) own opinion - he let her go to Roc Nation though when her success wained / was a one US-Canadian hit wonder. Read more: http://www.hitquarters.com/index.php...#ixzz1yfixrvIN |
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It was a very big hit in the UK and the US especially. It's sold over 3 million in the US. In the UK, it was a big hit aswell, due to it being used in movies and promotional campaigns, and the media attention surrounding it.
Don't use the charts to see what's popular. Look where 99 Problems by Jay-Z charted, for example. And a lot of songs that get to #1, hardly anybody knows them. Paper Planes is a very well-known song for those that were following mainstream music in 2008/2009. BTW not a chart whore at all myself
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i was on about you suggesting that madonna is possibly signed to roc nation. there is nothing to substantiate that possible scenario. like someone else posted, m.i.a is signed to interscope records like madonna. madonna`s deal with live nation is totally separate to roc nation.
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i was on about you suggesting that madonna is possibly signed to roc nation. there is nothing to substantiate that possible scenario. like someone else posted, m.i.a is signed to interscope records like madonna. madonna`s deal with live nation is totally separate to roc nation.
![]() Roc nation is a 50-50 partnership with Live Nation - how can you say there's no link. Perhap's M.I.A. does alot better as a touring artist as well - have no idea about that though.M.I.A. officially signed to Jay-Z's Roc Nation management in May of 2012 - wikipedia. |
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Yes, it's for touring purposes alone.
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Madonna has got a distribution deal with Interscope (not sure that involves much marketing on their behalf).Madonna's main interest is in her tour's - she get's 90% of the profit's from her tour's.Don't think's she's that bothered with singles / album's - their not money maker's for established artist's like Madonna - even when they sell wellish
![]() Roc nation is a 50-50 partnership with Live Nation - how can you say there's no link. Perhap's M.I.A. does alot better as a touring artist as well - have no idea about that though.M.I.A. officially signed to Jay-Z's Roc Nation management in May of 2012 - wikipedia. |
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roc nation is a 50-50 partnership between jay-z and live nation. madonna`s deal is with live nation, the parent company. that`s like suggesting simon cowell has influence over artist signed exclusively to sony, because of simon`s partnership deal with sony for his label syco.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Bronfman - her child's father http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Bronfman,_Jr. - Ben Bronfman's father http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Bronfman - Edgar Bronfman's father |
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Live Nation has a 50% stake in M.I.A. commercially, since she signed with Roc Nation.Just checked M.I.A. touring record in U.K. which is pretty crap to say the least.Load's of cancelled dates (lack of demand ????).She got a Bronfman Child as well which doesn't go to well alongside her anti-establishment / capitalist stance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Bronfman - her child's father http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Bronfman,_Jr. - Ben Bronfman's father http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Bronfman - Edgar Bronfman's father |
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roc nation manages her career, as you previously stated, she is not signed to the roc nation label. like i said, i was more concerned with the suggestion that madonna was signed to roc nation, which she isn't.
Her N.E.E.T. label (seems to be semi-funtioning anyway) is a sub-division of Interscope - seems like she is no longer with XL who she was still linked to up to 2010. http://pitchfork.com/news/46646-mia-...zs-roc-nation/ |
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