[cyrilandshirley]

Originally Posted by omnidirectional

I've very rarely watched Hollyoaks over the past few months, but I saw tonight's E4 episode and really enjoyed most of it. I think it was because most of the characters where older/established ones; Rhys/Jacqui, Darren/Nancy, Mitzeee/Riley (loved the last scene with Mercedes catching them). I still can't buy the Doug/Ste storyline though, so that was the only downside.

I think any episode which doesn't feature the awful sixth formers is instantly improved.

It's definitely turned a corner these last 2 weeks. I haven't really been a massive fan of Mitzeee and Riley, mainly because I think he's a bit of a chump and him moving in with Lynsey was dafter than daft, but even I thought tonight's stuff between them was really well done, I just wanted them to be together, it was played just right.

Really really liking the Brendan/Walker stuff. The violence was really well done, they're great actors, love the buzz between them.

Agree about Ste and Doug being the weak link. I don't really care that much whether Brendan stalks them or not, though it's funny when he does. They owe him £80k for flips sake. Am I really supposed to be rooting for them? Cos I'm not. They can do one, frankly.

But the show as a whole is very watchable. Which I haven't been able to say for a long time, since Silas really.

[fairyfruitcake]

I just enjoyed all the little Nancy bits, I do love Nancy

[tinkie]

Originally Posted by qwerty282

He said that he just needs to get "better acquainted" with Lynsey to get her off his case and implied he could do this easily as Brendan tells Walker that he has a gift for getting people on his side. Brendan then said that Lynsey was family and if Walker goes anywhere near her, Brendan will end him.

Lynsey almost stole the episode for me tonight! It was great to see fierce and ferocious Lynsey in full force again. Though, I think she should start her own neighbourhood watch group seeing as she's always on the lookout for people creeping around, taking advantage.

But Hollyoaks saved the best for last. That Ritzeee scene was so amazing! They just belong together.

Thank you

[lulu g]

Originally Posted by Reo

Rhys' reason for being upset is good, just a shame that they didn't bother to play it all out on screen before they got Rhys upset and angry. Basically they wrote that Rhys went crazy because Jacqui said that she could do the shopping herself.

Still not liking Doug and Ste, but Brendan was great!

Good to see Brendan showing support for Lynsey, while I don't think Brendan would take Lynsey's advice most of the time, I do think he would hear what she has to say, advice as well as warnings, so Walker really shouldn't have seen her as a nothing person in Brendan's life.. But I didn't like smug Joel.

I liked smug Joel a lot.

[nats18]

I agree I liked the e4 ep minus stug can that end please they are not a good match even if I bought Doug was gay. The Mercy thing was pretty funny from her getting the wrong idea right up to her seeing them.

[Rain]

Cute Stug scenes and Doug telling Brendan off some more.

Some Phoebe/Rhys/Jacqui dynamic - wish they were back at the flat though - much better in that environment.

Silly Mercedes thinking it was all for her - what was she thinking stripping off too! So much for plenty of talking... she got to hear Riley and Mitzeee getting it on for her troubles. Haaa

Atleast we can understand why she goes a bit loopy on Mitzeee again.

Originally Posted by fairyfruitcake

I just enjoyed all the little Nancy bits, I do love Nancy

I love the scenes in which she grabs Darren's cheeks and make crazy mouse noises at one another - it is cute, but helarious! Just like how some couples are.

[Bluebird69]

Originally Posted by ally08

My favourite bit was Doug being all smug because he made Brendan pay for his sandwich and he and Ste being all we beat the big bad wolf and told him not to cross the line in the sand.

They have met him right? They both, especially Ste, know he isn't going to leave it there.

Has Ste totally forgotten the Brendan is a murderer thing and actually thinks he is going to be backed off by Doug?

You are having a laugh HOs, at us, you are laughing at us.

Even Cheryl warned Joel last week, don't push Brendan, you know he only pushes back twice as hard.

Are we supposed to think he is intimidated by Doug?

This. It's so frustrating!
A couple of weeks ago we had Brendan being scammed by Ste - the real Brendan would have seen that coming a mile off!
And now, we're supposed to believe he'd let himself be put in his place by Doug, of all people? Up til now, their encounters have pretty much consisted of Brendan holding Doug up against a wall by his throat
The new writers must have lost the cribsheet telling them what Brendan's character is supposed to be like. I hope they find it again soon, and that Brendan has some good payback in store for little Douglas

[Rain]

Brendan let Doug have those digs - because he knew he would get one up on them with buying the council flat.

Like Obvious.

[margarite6666]

Originally Posted by Rain

Brendan let Doug have those digs - because he knew he would get one up on them with buying the council flat.

Like Obvious.

I think the scene where he throws the money at Doug tells all. There you go Douglas. Anything you say Douglas. He is allowing Doug to think he has control now. No doubt in a few weeks time he will be back crying and squirming.

[Chloe19xo]

Hasn't been on in ages so just going to discuss last weeks batch of episodes I have just seen.Firstly was shocked at the walker/brendan kiss was not excepting that at all and am really enjoying this storyline and can't wait for the reason how ally and walker link up.The storyline with lacey taking the money from the savages that. They raised at the festival has been so pointless, they somehow got money to get a home in the end anyway and hasn't made me warm to lacey at all through do feel sorry for her, martha is a nightmare but is one of the best new characters they have introduced in my opnion.Wanted riley and lyndsey to stay together all through this is a unpopular opinion as there is a lot of riley and mitize's fans, I just don't really get it there cousins and all.Loving Mercedes and rob together as well.Feel sorry for carmel and will be interested in this storyline as its completely different from her going after a man.

[ally08]

Originally Posted by Rain

Brendan let Doug have those digs - because he knew he would get one up on them with buying the council flat.

Like Obvious.

Except it's not Doug's flat and it's not really anything to do with him.

It just amazes me that Ste is congratulating Doug on putting Brendan in his place, Doug should know that Brendan won't let him get away with it but Ste should really know.

I remember when Ste was going out with Noah, Noah decided to go round and have it out with Brendan, Ste went hairless over it, he begged Noah to stay away from Brendan, told him that he didn't know what he was capable of but now apparently he thinks that Doug goading Brendan is a bit of a laugh.

Mental.

[sazb12]

I really enjoyed tonight's episode, a lot more than yesterday's.

I loved the Ritzeee stuff! So happy for Mitzeee, really loving her at the minute. They have built this Ritzeee stuff up really well these past couple of weeks, and they have really drawn me in, which is the whole reason for why build up is so important in storylines! Glad they seemed to have realised that now, as the one week SL's seem to have gone- for good hopefully.

I loved Brendan as well, just brilliant as usual.

The Stug stuff made me cringe though, when Doug picked Ste up, i couldn't watch! I hate stuff like that.

Also, maybe it was just me, but i laughed at the Mercy stuff. Her being so stupid to believe that Riley was doing all that stuff for her, and then when Ritzeee came back to the flat i laughed. *is a bitch* I'm sorry, but i have no sympathy for her after all the horrible things she has done to Mitzeee, she deserved it. Karma, Mercy love, Karma.

[Rain]

Originally Posted by ally08

Except it's not Doug's flat and it's not really anything to do with him.

He is with Ste.. he has one up on his BF - it has everything to do with him.

Come on, if someone did something to your bloke/lady - would you be like - "It is non of my business, not my problem".

[priscilla]

sorry to.ask but i missed an ep
who stopped carmel from jumping off the roof?

[ally08]

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[dreamycreamy]

Originally Posted by priscilla

sorry to.ask but i missed an ep
who stopped carmel from jumping off the roof?

Lynsey

Was really annoyed Lynsey didn't say anything to anyone, if Carmel was to actually commit suicide then it would fall on Lynsey. She should know better, you can't just bank on someone just doing it the once. Carmel should be getting physiological help.

[LittleGirlOf7]

Hello. First time posting here.

I've been lurking for a while and as it doesn't seem to have been picked up on I thought I'd pop in and say how I spotted a massive slip in continuity this week. As it was over two episodes it's apparently gone unnoticed but it'll probably show up more clearly if you watch the omnibus. For one episode it shifts into a parallel universe where nearly every character is in two places at once.

On Tuesday's C4 episode we had Doug and Ste's afternoon interupted by Ally and Amy and an impromptu game of basketball, Liberty, Dirk and Dodger trying to pull a fast one on Jack in the pub car park, Lynsey checking on a food poisoned Riley and finally Carmel going up onto the hospital roof and standing on the edge ready to jump. All these things on the same day.

Wednesday's episode started with Carmel still on the hospital roof...so still the same day as the previous episode. But we see Doug and Ste in different shirts walking through town at a time of day before the basketball game with Amy and Ally took place and before Carmel went on the roof. At this time in the previous episode they were working in the deli. Carmel is seen still on the roof as before. Jack is serving Rhys in the pub at 2pm - after Carmel has been talked down from the roof edge by Lynsey - and not in the car park being "fooled" by the Savages, which again happened on the same day but before Carmel went up to the roof. Lynsey takes Carmel back to her hospital bed while she similtaneously attends to Riley at his flat as this is all still the same day. Finally, Amy comforts a tearful Michaela on her doorstep rather than coming home to spend the evening in the flat with Ally, which was after the basketball game with Doug and Ste...just before Carmel went up on the roof. The same day.


I may have made that sound more complicated than it is but if you watch the episodes back together you'll see what I mean. The one thing that would've solved it would've been Carmel going onto the roof in the early hours and Lynsey spotting her in the morning. Otherwise, the timeline for Wednesday's episode is completely screwballed.



But...BUT...


Despite the accidental Sliding Doors element, and to go against the grain of seemingly most opinions, I've actually been really enjoying Hollyoaks recently. Although I noticed the above mishap with the continuity, it didn't spoil it for me. Hollyoaks, like any rolling drama, is its own bubble that drifts here and there. It bulges and contracts and sometimes you can see the bright colours and sometimes it's completely transparent. It's drama, not a documentry, but as long as there's a through line that vaguely follows reality they can take a storyline into any direction and any character to any limit or extreme. Hollyoaks has always had the pinch of fantasy about it - or creative edge, as I like to think of it. Questioning its occasional lack of realism is kind of saying, 'This TV show is being made like a TV show. Those actors are acting. The writers have written a script. It's as if these fictional characters in a fictional setting aren't real. It's enraging.'

I'm not sything through character or storyline discussions in general, by the way. Anything's up for debate, of course. I've just found the level incredulity towards the show from some here a little bewildering, if that's not too rude for a newbie in these parts to say.




Sidenote - If anyone from Lime Pictures is reading and there's a job going for a continuity assistant...let me know. I'm available for an immediate start.

[priscilla]

Originally Posted by dreamycreamy

Lynsey

Was really annoyed Lynsey didn't say anything to anyone, if Carmel was to actually commit suicide then it would fall on Lynsey. She should know better, you can't just bank on someone just doing it the once. Carmel should be getting physiological help.

thanks
lynsay should have told the doc or her family
i dont even.think mercy/bart have visited carmel (missed a few eps so might be wrong).if they havent how selfish are they

[callmemaybe]

Next week should be a good one. Im hoping at least.

The teens are back. Yay! ..

[Bluebird69]

Originally Posted by LittleGirlOf7

Despite the accidental Sliding Doors element, and to go against the grain of seemingly most opinions, I've actually been really enjoying Hollyoaks recently. Although I noticed the above mishap with the continuity, it didn't spoil it for me. Hollyoaks, like any rolling drama, is its own bubble that drifts here and there. It bulges and contracts and sometimes you can see the bright colours and sometimes it's completely transparent. It's drama, not a documentry, but as long as there's a through line that vaguely follows reality they can take a storyline into any direction and any character to any limit or extreme. Hollyoaks has always had the pinch of fantasy about it - or creative edge, as I like to think of it. Questioning its occasional lack of realism is kind of saying, 'This TV show is being made like a TV show. Those actors are acting. The writers have written a script. It's as if these fictional characters in a fictional setting aren't real. It's enraging.'

I'm not sything through character or storyline discussions in general, by the way. Anything's up for debate, of course. I've just found the level incredulity towards the show from some here a little bewildering, if that's not too rude for a newbie in these parts to say.




Sidenote - If anyone from Lime Pictures is reading and there's a job going for a continuity assistant...let me know. I'm available for an immediate start.

BIB: Hahaha!
As if HO's would ever want one of those. Or even realise the concept existed!

I know it's a drama and not a documentary so the lack of realism (as long as it's vaguely within the bounds of credibility) is acceptable. But other soaps seem to manage to keep their characters acting consistently, I don't think it's too big an ask.

[cyrilandshirley]

Originally Posted by LittleGirlOf7

I've been lurking for a while and as it doesn't seem to have been picked up on I thought I'd pop in and say how I spotted a massive slip in continuity this week. As it was over two episodes it's apparently gone unnoticed but it'll probably show up more clearly if you watch the omnibus. For one episode it shifts into a parallel universe where nearly every character is in two places at once.

The continuity issues are because what would have been several different episodes are being edited together at the moment and resequenced. It's probably to make room for Silas's sudden reappearance, which is being shot at the last minute. I expect it'll settle down. It doesn't bother me that much - it's character continuity and strong storylining that make something believable. Both have been lacking the last 8 months, which is why people have criticized, but they both seem to have made a reappearance now. So, yay.

Originally Posted by sazb12

I loved the Ritzeee stuff! So happy for Mitzeee, really loving her at the minute. They have built this Ritzeee stuff up really well these past couple of weeks, and they have really drawn me in, which is the whole reason for why build up is so important in storylines! Glad they seemed to have realised that now, as the one week SL's seem to have gone- for good hopefully.

I was thinking about this - I'm not the biggest Ritzeee fan because Riley hasn't got much going on upstairs, but they work so so well together because their connection has been bubbling along for such a long time. Way back last September they first had a moment in Later. Then went through all the Silas/Heidi stuff together, and they still held off on bringing them together for months. I love a good slow burn! It makes the climax seem so natural and satisfying. The comparison with Ste and Doug, shoved together over a couple of weeks for the sake of the plot, is pretty obvious.

But Yay for Ritzeee!

[mojo5000]

I can't remember whether I commented already but I adored Riley and Mitzeee finally getting together. It had proper build up, good acting, great chemistry and the ending with Mercedes' horror was a nice touch .

Originally Posted by ally08

It just amazes me that Ste is congratulating Doug on putting Brendan in his place, Doug should know that Brendan won't let him get away with it but Ste should really know.

I remember when Ste was going out with Noah, Noah decided to go round and have it out with Brendan, Ste went hairless over it, he begged Noah to stay away from Brendan, told him that he didn't know what he was capable of but now apparently he thinks that Doug goading Brendan is a bit of a laugh.

Mental.

Everyone knows that the best way to get a murdering sociopath off your back is a goad him and charge him for sandwiches when technically he could eat £80,000's worth free of charge. It's not like they've got anything to worry about, Brendan is just full of empty threats isn't he?!

[npd6900]

Good lord, last night's C4 ep finally got over the 1 million mark for the first time in ages (1.08m C4, 126k on +1 and 613k on E4). Must say that particular episode deserved it

[Deschanel]

Originally Posted by LittleGirlOf7

Jack is serving Rhys in the pub at 2pm

This is my first post in this thread, too, and I noticed most of those continuity errors, too. However, you missed that in Tuesday's ep, the clock in Mitzeee's flat said 5pm, but in Wed ep Jack said it was 2pm! You also had Riley, who was sick in Tues ep, but then perfectly fine in Wed ep, like he had miraculously gotten better in a couple of hours - Linsey must work miracles. LOL. Then in Thursday's ep, Mercy had cancelled her night out to look after Bobby, but randomly popped up in the club with Rob.

I'm actually enjoying the show at the moment, something I never thought I would say, as I've only ever been a very casual viewer, but I'm watching more regularly now. I think they've built up the Riley/Mitzeee story really well, and you can actually feel it's a love story, something most love stories on other soaps lack is that romance element; those scenes were done really well. Lacey stealing the Savage's money made the Forest party pointless, but them turning up with that house boat made the money theft also pointless - what a very pointless circle. LOL.

I noticed this show suits the sunny, warm look, much like Neighbours does; it really makes the show look more inviting.

[omnidirectional]

Originally Posted by npd6900

Good lord, last night's C4 ep finally got over the 1 million mark for the first time in ages (1.08m C4, 126k on +1 and 613k on E4). Must say that particular episode deserved it

Quite pleased for them, as last night's E4 was a good episode (didn't see C4). I haven't been watching HO properly for a long time, but might start again now. Although with talk of the teens being back next week, it may be short lived!