[darkisland]

Originally Posted by AL89

even though many of the DJ's of his ilk tend to be mocked as all "self important" they had one remarkable talent............they could entertain millions of us on a daily basis.

Did they ? I thought people listened for the music - which if taken away would leave you with only an attention seeking buffoon who'd struggle to fill two seconds with anything vaguely worthwhile..
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[old pilot]

Originally Posted by darkisland

Did they ? I thought people listened for the music - which if taken away would leave you with only an attention seeking buffoon who'd struggle to fill two seconds with anything vaguely worthwhile..
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Which were summed up in the Smashy and Nicey routines.

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by darnall42

I dont think DLT came over very well on any TV Show he did,I'm Halfway through re-watching The german 60s TV show Beat club on DVD which for a few years he co-Hosted and he was the same as he was in the 70s TOTPs ,and yet his saturday radio 1 show was excellent as is his current show on Magic

For some reason people that do radio think they can do TV, and people who do TV think they can do radio. Why?

[Mapperley Ridge]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

For some reason people that do radio think they can do TV, and people who do TV think they can do radio. Why?

To be fair, Radio 1 DJs appearing on Top of the Pops probably wasn't their own choice. The TV show and the radio station were both huge at the time - for many, the only source of hearing or seeing chart music apart from down the local disco.

Whatever people think looking back, DLT, Noel Edmonds etc were enormous personalities. Having them on TV, often wearing Radio 1 t-shirts, was an ideal way of the BBC promoting the station during the rise of commercial radio in the 1970s and 80s.

[RikScot]

Originally Posted by Mapperley Ridge

Whatever people think looking back, DLT, Noel Edmonds etc were enormous personalities. .

So were Keith Harris and Orville...

[bigluke1970]

DLT did a lot for poupular music back in the 1970's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d189uP-48sU

[lundavra]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

For some reason people that do radio think they can do TV, and people who do TV think they can do radio. Why?

Because many can?

You could just as easily write that many people think they can do radio and many people think they can do TV. Some can and come can't, those that are very successful are not always the ones "who can".

[vauxhall1964]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

I wonder if there is any evidence of how well, or not, he was regarded by those who worked with him in national broadcasting on TOTP and R1.

I'm currently reading a book on John Peel... Peelie loathed DLT...which is good enugh for me.

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by vauxhall1964

I'm currently reading a book on John Peel... Peelie loathed DLT...which is good enugh for me.

I was always surprised that John Peel did Top Of The Pops presenting. I would have thought he found the whole thing rather painful, perhaps his book reveals his thoughts? Mind you, I have heard he was a fan of the Eurovision so who knows?

[Shrewn]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

I was always surprised that John Peel did Top Of The Pops presenting. I would have thought he found the whole thing rather painful, perhaps his book reveals his thoughts? Mind you, I have heard he was a fan of the Eurovision so who knows?

He once said he was stunned when he was asked if he'd do it, so thought why not, so he did it and quite enjoyed it.

It's the same when Tommy Vance took the Top 40 show, he seemed to really enjoy hosting the show, but probably had little time for a lot of the music.

Re the point as regards Radio 1 and TOTP link, i vaguely recall that TOTP was regarded as "Light Entertainment" as opposed to "Music" which Whistle Test etc were categorised, and so would use Blackburn, Edmonds, Diddy, DLT etc rather than the likes of Bob Harris

I guess things altered in the 1980's, though the more "journalistic jocks", if i can call them that, presented Live Aid which I remember thinking was a bit odd

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by Shrewn

He once said he was stunned when he was asked if he'd do it, so thought why not, so he did it and quite enjoyed it.

It's the same when Tommy Vance took the Top 40 show, he seemed to really enjoy hosting the show, but probably had little time for a lot of the music.

Re the point as regards Radio 1 and TOTP link, i vaguely recall that TOTP was regarded as "Light Entertainment" as opposed to "Music" which Whistle Test etc were categorised, and so would use Blackburn, Edmonds, Diddy, DLT etc rather than the likes of Bob Harris

I guess things altered in the 1980's, though the more "journalistic jocks", if i can call them that, presented Live Aid which I remember thinking was a bit odd

Yes, Tommy Vance was infact a surprisingly good presenter of the Top 40 chart show on a Sunday evening around 1982 to 1984, and he was still popping up doing the odd one in the early 1990's. Always insightful, and giving informative snippets about the records before or after he had played them, and treating his young listeners in a totally grown up and adult fashion as if they had a brain, unlike what some of the pitiful and banal current bunch of lightweights apparently do, so I've heard.

[AL89]

youve lost the point of my thread, do you think DLT would be a suitable candiidate to fill the early show forgetting all ois madcap rants/TV work based purely on radio broadcasting skill

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by AL89

youve lost the point of my thread, do you think DLT would be a suitable candiidate to fill the early show forgetting all ois madcap rants/TV work based purely on radio broadcasting skill

If the vacancy was to arise, then I think it would depend who the other candidates were who showed up for interview for the job alongside DLT.

[old pilot]

Originally Posted by AL89

youve lost the point of my thread, do you think DLT would be a suitable candiidate to fill the early show forgetting all ois madcap rants/TV work based purely on radio broadcasting skill

He is about 30 years past his sell by date. Hence his total
absence from mainstream broadcasting since he left Radio 1.

He'll end up in the same box as Simon Dee.

[Westy2]

Originally Posted by bigluke1970

DLT did a lot for poupular music back in the 1970's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d189uP-48sU

Sensational ! LOL

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by old pilot

He is about 30 years past his sell by date. Hence his total
absence from mainstream broadcasting since he left Radio 1.

He'll end up in the same box as Simon Dee.

Not quite! His career has infact lasted considerably longer than Mr.Dee. From the documntaries I've seen of that 60's throwback, it seems that once he arrived he lorded it about rubbing everyone up the wrong way quite rapidly as the big I am, and equally fast burnt all his bridges leaving him nowhere to go....but jail in the end.

Not quite DLT.

[James Martin 2]

This is essential viewing if you've got an hour to spare. It's very, very dark in places - especially so to anyone who takes an interest in radio - but I challenge you not to piss yourself laughing. I used to know someone exactly like Dave Nice!

[Shrewn]

Originally Posted by AL89

youve lost the point of my thread, do you think DLT would be a suitable candiidate to fill the early show forgetting all ois madcap rants/TV work based purely on radio broadcasting skill

No

He's nearly 70 and lives out in the sticks

[Shrewn]

Originally Posted by old pilot

He is about 30 years past his sell by date. Hence his total
absence from mainstream broadcasting since he left Radio 1.

He'll end up in the same box as Simon Dee.

Ha ha, I don't think the bridges were quite as ablaze as when SD left the Beeb

[old pilot]

Originally Posted by Shrewn

Ha ha, I don't think the bridges were quite as ablaze as when SD left the Beeb

The fires are still burning inside DLT

'Someone made a decision that light-hearted was not good. Someone ignored the people. The show was valued by the listeners, but hey, who cares about the listeners? We are the BBC. We can change things.
'It was like what happened to me at Radio 1 in a way — new people trying to make their mark. Well, that is OK when you are selling ice cream, but not when you're playing about with something as important as the BBC World Service.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...BC-doesnt.html

[deepfroat]

Originally Posted by Shrewn

No

He's nearly 70 and lives out in the sticks

So clearly not DG or breakfast host material. But a perfect background for next chairman of the BBC Trust!

[MikeBr]

From the Mail article linked to above:

"'We had the biggest postbag of any programme ever on the BBC World Service. That is something special."

No it isn't. It was a request show.

"It is a sad day when the BBC makes decisions that mean they can't hold on to an audience. It's not just about me.'"

The BBC World Service made a deliberate decision to concentrate on news broadcasting, whatever people think of the current format, and I'd put far more culture in though don't see the need for pop music request shows, BBC Audience Research figures show that the audience has held up, in fact I think has increased, though that's the BBC World Service as a whole, most of the listening is to the language services not English.

In Burma for example the Government licenced private FM stations playing music which meant listeners moved away from listening to international radio broadcasters in urban areas.

[suffolkblue]

I think DLT would be good for smooth radio however can't ever see that happening sadly.

[Mapperley Ridge]

Originally Posted by old pilot

The fires are still burning inside DLT

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...BC-doesnt.html

Call me cynical, but I can't help thinking that the sole reason for the Mail interviewing DLT was to find just a smidgen of criticism of the BBC....

Although it's rather strange that although the article gives you the impression Ms Moir has visited DLT's house, all of the photos are from other people's libraries...

[old pilot]

Originally Posted by Mapperley Ridge

Call me cynical, but I can't help thinking that the sole reason for the Mail interviewing DLT was to find just a smidgen of criticism of the BBC....

Although it's rather strange that although the article gives you the impression Ms Moir has visited DLT's house, all of the photos are from other people's libraries...

The Mail certainly don't like to miss an opportunity to bash the beeb but DLT is still churning out his grievances after all these years. He was the architect of his own demise on that memorable Saturday morning.

Dave Lee Travis told listeners yesterday: 'I just want to take a short break from the music for a moment to tell you about something which is very, very important to me. Recently there has been a lot in the press about the BBC and I really wanted to put the record straight at this point.

'I think you, the listeners, ought to know first. One point I wish to make clear is that I have the greatest admiration for what the BBC has stood for - but nothing stays the same. Changes are being made here which go against my principles, and I just cannot agree with them.'

A BBC spokesman said the announcement was a surprise. 'We are sorry to see him go,' he said.

Every so often he tries to resurrect his career with lines like these...

"This Smashie and Nicey crap – is that funny? It doesn't raise a smile with me."

‘It worries me that none of the younger disc jockeys have come up to me and said, “Dave, teach me how to communicate.” ’

I don't know why so many of us have endured,' he continues. 'If I knew the answer to that I could bottle it. But most of us around at that time, we had all learned our craft. They don't seem to do that today.

I could understand if Clive Anderson had said that but DLT?