[old pilot]

Originally Posted by Mapperley Ridge

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Rehardless of his broadcasting credentials, DLTs most recent interviews suggestbhenis still very bitter about what happened to him at BBC Radio 1 He has to accept what happened actually happened for a very good reason. The station was about to implode.

Of course, he is lucky to still have his World Service show, but I would suggest that he doesn't have respect for the mainstream BBC any more. Unlike Tony Blackburn, I don't think DLT would fit on Radio 2, unless it was perhaps a weekly show. Actually, a simulcast or rerun of his WS show might not be a bad thing.

Egg on your face there and you've obviously not listened to the WS for some years as he left in 2001!

The BBC World Service is now a bit like BBC World TV which is often shown in airports around the world but is the same old stuff hour after hour. I've lost track of the airport lounges around the world where I have fell asleep only to hear and see the same old stories hours later on what appears to be an endless loop.Who the hell is their audience?

I reckon they need to stick BBC WS management in a dark room and make them listen to nothing but their output 24/7 for a month.

Or syndicate it to the CIA for torture. If they really want to add to the mental anguish they could enlist Mathew Cain from Channel Four News.

[AuralJunkie]

Originally Posted by AL89

with the recent publicity he has been having has he now reached personality status to be able to come back to Auntie on radio 2 and grace us with his dolcit tones wac wac ooops??

Well he did continue on the BBC WS, perhaps he can be pensioned off to BBC local radio. Just keep him away from 1 and 6. Radio 1 needs to look to some younger DJs that haven't come through via media school, and 6 Music has so much DJ talent (all with good music cred) that they wont be looking for anyone else for years, and Huw Stephens must be ultimately destined to end up there when he is too old for R1. DLT is a creature of an earlier time and well past contemporary music radio, that leaves Gold (he's done that), Magic & Radio 2 - but there is a limit to how many of the school of 64 to 76 they can take!!!

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by old pilot

Or syndicate it to the CIA for torture. If they really want to add to the mental anguish they could enlist Mathew Cain from Channel Four News.

This quote came out of a clear blue sky Old Pilot. Isn't the mentioned person the arts correspondent on that news. What is your issue with him, and how does that fit in with the discussion in hand?

[Mapperley Ridge]

Originally Posted by old pilot

Egg on your face there and you've obviously not listened to the WS for some years as he left in 2001!

A mistake which I acknowledged in post 98. You might do well to learn from that some time.

[Mapperley Ridge]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

This quote came out of a clear blue sky Old Pilot. Isn't the mentioned person the arts correspondent on that news. What is your issue with him, and how does that fit in with the discussion in hand?

It doesn't have anything to do with the discussion.

[chris983]

Wouldn't DLT be to old for the radio 2 demographic? I think the magic is good if u are in to that but I could never see him work on BBC again personally. I agree with above poster who said he needed to get over what happened to him at radio 1 and let's be honest it needed to be done.

[Glenn A]

Originally Posted by chris983

Wouldn't DLT be to old for the radio 2 demographic? I think the magic is good if u are in to that but I could never see him work on BBC again personally. I agree with above poster who said he needed to get over what happened to him at radio 1 and let's be honest it needed to be done.

I'm thinking the same, he was relegated to weekends in the early eighties and was then finished on Radio 1 in 1993, you'll have to be at least 40 to remember him as the hairy cornflake on the breakfast show. Somehow Radio 2 has skipped an era and I don't think he'd work as he's been away from national radio for so long. All I can really remember him for is snooker on the radio and his resignation rant.
While some people work because they made a smooth transition from Radio 1 to Radio 2, Steve Wright, Simon Mayo and Chris Evans( even after a few years in the wilderness) come to mind, you have this legion of Radio 1 DJs whose glory days were around 1976 and who fizzled out in the eighties and early nineties. I would very much doubt many people would want to listen to, or remember now, such names from the past as Paul Burnett, Adrian Juste and Emperor Rosko on Radio 2.

[Andy Walmsley]

Glenn, don't forget other R1 DJs from the mid-70s did go to R2, David Hamilton for instance. Tony Blackburn and Johnnie Walker were also with the station back in '76 and (eventually) came to R2. You could also add Bob Harris, Janice Long & Gambo to the list of those who 'crossed over'.

DLT's problem was that he never seemed that 'into' the music - and I used to enjoy those weekend shows. He was interviewed live on the ITN lunchtime news a few weeks back and came across as egotistical and bad-tempered. It was embarrassing to watch.

Just remembered that Paul Burnett was also on Radio 2 for a while (early 80s).

[Rowieboy]

Originally Posted by Andy Walmsley

Glenn, don't forget other R1 DJs from the mid-70s did go to R2, David Hamilton for instance. Tony Blackburn and Johnnie Walker were also with the station back in '76 and (eventually) came to R2. You could also add Bob Harris, Janice Long & Gambo to the list of those who 'crossed over'.

DLT's problem was that he never seemed that 'into' the music - and I used to enjoy those weekend shows. He was interviewed live on the ITN lunchtime news a few weeks back and came across as egotistical and bad-tempered. It was embarrassing to watch.

Just remembered that Paul Burnett was also on Radio 2 for a while (early 80s).

He always comes across these days as a bit of an arse. Maybe that means he might actually have always been one. Allegedly etc...Certainly bitter that much is clear!

[AndyJK]

Originally Posted by AL89

with the recent publicity he has been having has he now reached personality status to be able to come back to Auntie on radio 2 and grace us with his dolcit tones wac wac ooops??

Oh has DLT been getting good publicity lately? Good. I must have missed all this. I did read the Burmese politician spent her years under house arrest listening to DLT on the BBC World Service.

All I can say is DLT is the consummate broadcaster and I was very angry at his treatment forcing him to leave Radio 1 when he did. I listened to his show reguarly from the mid 80's to the end. Yes, bring him back to Radio 2 like all the other great former Radio 1 DJs. Give me DLT than Patrick Keilty any day.

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by Andy Walmsley

Glenn, don't forget other R1 DJs from the mid-70s did go to R2, David Hamilton for instance. Tony Blackburn and Johnnie Walker were also with the station back in '76 and (eventually) came to R2. You could also add Bob Harris, Janice Long & Gambo to the list of those who 'crossed over'.

DLT's problem was that he never seemed that 'into' the music - and I used to enjoy those weekend shows. He was interviewed live on the ITN lunchtime news a few weeks back and came across as egotistical and bad-tempered. It was embarrassing to watch.

Just remembered that Paul Burnett was also on Radio 2 for a while (early 80s).

Hi Andy, I'd love to know precisely what it was that made him seem egotistical and bad tempered on the ITN news.

Talking the music, I recall in 1985, when he played Dead Or Alive on his weekend show, when they were at the top of the charts with You Spin Me Round, and he came out with one hell of a cutting comment, saying he couldn't believe we were heading towards the 1990's with rubbish like that topping the charts! A little forward I thought, and showed he was already sounding like the listeners fathers, grumbling about the current pop. Not great on Radio 1!

Johnnie Walker is from exactly the same era, and age as people like DLT, yet remains perfectly contemporary and well suited to Radio 2, and radio in general even now, and doesn't come across as some kind of throwback to another age. So age and era are not necessarily obstacles to relevance now, even though they have given him a 70's show.

As for Tony Blackburn, well he really has turned into a broadcasting national treasure, even more so since he made POTP his own, when he took it on in late 2010. After 45 years on the national BBC network he still exudes warmth, humour and most importantly enthusiasm for what he does, and has become a must listen each weekend for me nowadays because I appreciate those qualities in anyone.

How DLT fits into the jigsaw of all these other fellows from the same era, I cannot judge. But when Noel Edmonds stood in for Johnnie Walker on the main Drive show on Radio 2 back in 2003, for an entire 2 months, when Walker was ill, Noel was surprisingly good, and why should he have been anything other? So DLT could surprise, given an opportunity. There again, maybe he's burnt a few bridges?

[Mark C]

Originally Posted by Andy Walmsley

DLT's problem was that he never seemed that 'into' the music .

Wasn't it John Peel who was amazed to discover, after being invited round to DLT's house, that he didn't own a single record ?

Originally Posted by Andy Walmsley

He was interviewed live on the ITN lunchtime news a few weeks back and came across as egotistical and bad-tempered. It was embarrassing to watch.

My sister and BIL sat on an adjacent table in a restaurant some years ago, he came across much the same to them.

[Seagull259]

Originally Posted by Mark C

Wasn't it John Peel who was amazed to discover, after being invited round to DLT's house, that he didn't own a single record ?

This is referred to here

http://www.tvcream.co.uk/?p=7284#more

The same has been said of Chris Evans

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...oad-music.html

[darkisland]

Originally Posted by old pilot

Egg on your face there and you've obviously not listened to the WS for some years as he left in 2001!

The BBC World Service is now a bit like BBC World TV which is often shown in airports around the world but is the same old stuff hour after hour. I've lost track of the airport lounges around the world where I have fell asleep only to hear and see the same old stories hours later on what appears to be an endless loop.Who the hell is their audience?

I reckon they need to stick BBC WS management in a dark room and make them listen to nothing but their output 24/7 for a month.

I can't listen to BBC W.S. these days. It's arid, lacking in personality and very detached. The dearth of programming variety is a huge turn-off for me, and the repeat cycle is abominably short.

[Shrewn]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

Talking the music, I recall in 1985, when he played Dead Or Alive on his weekend show, when they were at the top of the charts with You Spin Me Round, and he came out with one hell of a cutting comment, saying he couldn't believe we were heading towards the 1990's with rubbish like that topping the charts! A little forward I thought, and showed he was already sounding like the listeners fathers, grumbling about the current pop. Not great on Radio 1!

You should have heard him when he had to play The Shamen a few years later!

[chris983]

Didn't the BBC pull all of the funding for the WS?

[Mark C]

Originally Posted by chris983

Didn't the BBC pull all of the funding for the WS?

No, the present government did. It (WS Radio) was financed by a Foreign Office grant, soon it will have to be financed from the UK licence fee, hence DQF etc

[AL89]

this thread got 5 pages my alto ego is getting close to tHE HAIRY CORNFLAKES

[Glenn A]

Originally Posted by Andy Walmsley

Glenn, don't forget other R1 DJs from the mid-70s did go to R2, David Hamilton for instance. Tony Blackburn and Johnnie Walker were also with the station back in '76 and (eventually) came to R2. You could also add Bob Harris, Janice Long & Gambo to the list of those who 'crossed over'.

DLT's problem was that he never seemed that 'into' the music - and I used to enjoy those weekend shows. He was interviewed live on the ITN lunchtime news a few weeks back and came across as egotistical and bad-tempered. It was embarrassing to watch.

Just remembered that Paul Burnett was also on Radio 2 for a while (early 80s).

Paul Burnett was sacked from Radio 1 for falling ratings in 1982 and did a two week stint covering for David Hamilton on Radio 2 in 1984. I do remember him giving a fairly bitter interview to the Newcastle Sunday Sun about how Radio 1 had treated him, but apparently both he and Noel Edmonds had a hit list of people they didn't like at the station and someone must have found out. Noel Edmonds moved on successfully to television, but Burnett seemed to fall into obscurity.
Johnnie Walker has probably made the transition to Radio 2 successfully as apart from having the friendly patter, was always known as a muso and after he left Radio 1 for the first time, became successful on American FM radio and made a comeback on Radio 1 in 1987 with the Stereo Sequence. Janice Long was similarly respected as a female Peel on Radio 1 in the mid eighties and after her sacking in 1988, became a popular voice on GLR before joining Radio 2 in 1998.
I think the DJs who are ever unlikely to make it to Radio 2 are ones who were last heard on Radio 1 in the early 90s and who would mean little to younger listeners now. Some have forged ahead with new careers and probably aren't bothered: Jakki Brambles had a successful career with GMTV, Simon Bates made a fortune syndicating Our Tune and then settled into a career presenting on Classic FM, Mike Read is the face of Vintage TV and Gary Davies seems happy in local radio.

[hanssolo]

Originally Posted by Mark C

Wasn't it John Peel who was amazed to discover, after being invited round to DLT's house, that he didn't own a single record ?

There was a TOTP on BBC 4 last night from 1977, he comes across as a good presenter/entertainer who just introduces music, but does not need to have a passion for it!
Guess if he works with a good producer who choses the right music he is OK, but left to chose for himself may be out of his depth!

[Voiceonastick]

[QUOTE=Apparently both he and Noel Edmonds had a hit list of people they didn't like at the station and someone must have found out.

Not quite true. I remember that interview that Noel Edmonds gave. Yes they had a drunken conversation one night and drew up a hit list of people who they thought shouldn't be on Radio One. They both put their own names at the top of the list and within a year Noel and Paul were gone.

[Shrewn]

Originally Posted by Glenn A

Paul Burnett was sacked from Radio 1 for falling ratings in 1982 and did a two week stint covering for David Hamilton on Radio 2 in 1984. I do remember him giving a fairly bitter interview to the Newcastle Sunday Sun about how Radio 1 had treated him, but apparently both he and Noel Edmonds had a hit list of people they didn't like at the station and someone must have found out. Noel Edmonds moved on successfully to television, but Burnett seemed to fall into obscurity.
Johnnie Walker has probably made the transition to Radio 2 successfully as apart from having the friendly patter, was always known as a muso and after he left Radio 1 for the first time, became successful on American FM radio and made a comeback on Radio 1 in 1987 with the Stereo Sequence. Janice Long was similarly respected as a female Peel on Radio 1 in the mid eighties and after her sacking in 1988, became a popular voice on GLR before joining Radio 2 in 1998.
I think the DJs who are ever unlikely to make it to Radio 2 are ones who were last heard on Radio 1 in the early 90s and who would mean little to younger listeners now. Some have forged ahead with new careers and probably aren't bothered: Jakki Brambles had a successful career with GMTV, Simon Bates made a fortune syndicating Our Tune and then settled into a career presenting on Classic FM, Mike Read is the face of Vintage TV and Gary Davies seems happy in local radio.

Add Mike Smith to the list as well who is doing rather nicely. I always remember a kid phoning Allan Beswick, desperate to be on radio, Allan told him to go for it but make sure he had a trade to fall back on
I don't know if Johnnie was that successful on US radio, he ended up penniless and kipping in his car.
I think he did ok at KSAN until it changed format

[AL89]

all the negative Re DLT but he appears in the few responses so far in the All time great thread.

[Rich Tea.]

Originally Posted by hanssolo

There was a TOTP on BBC 4 last night from 1977, he comes across as a good presenter/entertainer who just introduces music, but does not need to have a passion for it!
Guess if he works with a good producer who choses the right music he is OK, but left to chose for himself may be out of his depth!

Last night was one of his more straight laced presentations. He has done some curious ones in the past year and a half that they have been airing these TOTP's.
Eating sandwiches while presenting, and even getting stroppy with an audience member who slightly pushed him! A June 1976 one shown last summer even had a strange piece with him scoffing food at a table with Demis Roussos, obviously a play on his size!

I'd only have serious concerns about him as an individual if he still harboured a grudge for Noel's set up on Radio 1 on that darts quiz he did 20 years ago. I'm sure he forgives!
In the end, he is just one of those people who are of their time, and when you look at them you think of a certain period.
Another one who did the Radio 1 breakfast show, and TOTP who is a positive 1980's timewarp is Mike Smith, stuck in that era to me. Likewise, he vanished into the mists of time too.

[Mark C]

Originally Posted by Rich Tea.

Another one who did the Radio 1 breakfast show, and TOTP who is a positive 1980's timewarp is Mike Smith, stuck in that era to me. Likewise, he vanished into the mists of time too.

You could look at it that way, or alternatively you could view it as him giving up talking drivel on the radio, and now does something more worthwhile ?

http://www.flyingtv.co.uk/about-us.html