Caroline John (Liz Shaw) has died

Shawn_Lunn · 21-06-2012, 14:10

Just read, sad news.

RIP Caroline.

Corwin · 21-06-2012, 14:30

RIP Caroline John.
She was 72.

lach doch mal · 21-06-2012, 14:33

Very sad news. A great assistant.

My thoughts are with her family.

chuffnobbler · 21-06-2012, 14:40

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho.../Caroline-John

Just like Liz ... she'd been gone a while before we even knew.

Webslark · 21-06-2012, 15:18

Sad news. Thoughts are with her family.

Howard · 21-06-2012, 16:19

Good bye Miss Shaw.

allen_who · 21-06-2012, 16:24

would just like to echo everything that has been said above. Another sad time for us

It's beginning to make me feel old now that the classic series actors and actresses are passing away. It's very upsetting

handymelon · 21-06-2012, 16:26

I've just heard the sad news from a friend who MMS'd me the story.

RIP, Caroline. Another bit of my childhood passed on and another companion gone before.

TEDR · 21-06-2012, 16:33

She was the best thing about the Pertwee years and cast a long shadow. Condolences.

gwalker94 · 21-06-2012, 16:38

Utterly utterly devastated. Liz is one of my all time favourite companions and Caroline John was honest to god one of the nicest women I'd ever met. Brought a tear to my eye. Just devastating.

May she rest in peace

sovietusername · 21-06-2012, 17:24

So sad, only just found just now after going on Fcebook

If only we could all regenerate

stud u like · 21-06-2012, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovietusername

So sad, only just found just now after going on Fcebook

If only we could all regenerate

We will be able to soon....

Liparus · 21-06-2012, 17:43

Sad news indeed.

The first Who story I watched (repeated on the BBC in 2000) was DW and The Silurians which had Liz Shaw as the companion. To this day she remains my favourite.

Muttley76 · 21-06-2012, 18:14

Very sad news, always loved Liz Shaw.

RIP Caroline

ocox · 21-06-2012, 18:24

Sad so sad. RIP.

bbll22 · 21-06-2012, 18:24

Personally I haven't seen much of Liz Shaw's time in Doctor Who - the Pertwee stuff I have seen was mainly Jo and Sarah Jane, but what I have seen of Liz and that of Caroline was brilliant.

A modern companion for days gone by. And all of that is down to Caroline. Well done is all I can, but mainly thankyou...you will be missed...

Steve_Fisher · 21-06-2012, 18:26

Damn...
Goodbye Caroline, and thank you.

CELT1987 · 21-06-2012, 18:59

So sad to hear of Caroline's passing. She was great as Liz Shaw, she worked well with Pertwee's Doctor. Shame she only did one series.

RIP Caroline.

Larry1971 · 21-06-2012, 20:10

I had no idea she was as old as that I know it's silly but the way you see Caroline, and Liz Sladen in Doctor Who you imagin them to always be like that and you can't quite believe it when you find out how old they are.

A very talanred actress and attractive woman Carolines death is yet another sad loss to the world of Doctor Who.

RIP Caroline.

trilobite · 21-06-2012, 20:15

Like others, I never saw her in Dr Who in the 70s. The first time I saw her was in The Five Doctors.

Thanks first to BBC Video, and later DVD, I like many others, had the chance eventually to view her performance. I thought she was rather good in the role, especially in Spearhead From Space, where I am convinced that she is convinced that she is dealing with some fruit 'n' nut job, in the shape of the Doctor.

I liked Liz as an aloof, prim professional. Quite different to some of the other companions.

She will be missed.

Jon Ross · 21-06-2012, 20:27

I think it's a real shame she didn't get a better innings on the show. She was a victim of the changing production on the programme at the time. Peter Bryant and Derrick Sherwin employed her, then left and the new team of Barry Letts and Terrance Dicks didn't want her character.

It's a shame. If anything, Liz Shaw was just too ahead of her time as a Doctor Who companion. Letts and Dicks felt that you couldn't have a really clever, independent companion like that at the time, so they developed the less intelligent and accident-prone Jo Grant instead.

I know Katy Manning was a popular companion, but I'd have to say the move from Liz Shaw to Jo Grant was a bit of a step backwards for the representation of women in the programme at the time. Liz Shaw had a lot of potential that was just wasted.

King_Mrh · 21-06-2012, 20:34

Rest in Peace Caroline, and a big thank you from a life-long fan.

stuartjk · 21-06-2012, 20:36

Sad news, RIP Caroline John, very underrated companion.

Residents Fan · 21-06-2012, 22:23

Very, very sad to hear this news.

Caroline was a talented actress and according to Courtney's auto-bio,
also a lovely person.

RIP Caroline.

missemmerdale22 · 21-06-2012, 22:28

RIP Caroline i watched her first adventure spearheads in space at the weekend. It a shame that there not many left now from the unit days.

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21-06-2012, 14:10	#26
Shawn_Lunn Forum Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: TARDIS Posts: 3,270	Just read, sad news. RIP Caroline.

21-06-2012, 14:30	#27
Corwin Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,969	RIP Caroline John. She was 72.

21-06-2012, 14:33	#28
lach doch mal Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sofas are deities Services: Coffee with brown milk in the Inn Posts: 15,930	Very sad news. A great assistant. My thoughts are with her family.

21-06-2012, 14:40	#29
chuffnobbler Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,833	http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho.../Caroline-John Just like Liz ... she'd been gone a while before we even knew.

21-06-2012, 15:18	#30
Webslark Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Betwixt 2012 and 2020 Services: Every 11 parsecs Posts: 18,297	Sad news. Thoughts are with her family.

21-06-2012, 16:19	#31
Howard Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Nr. Rugby Services: Freeview and Freesat Posts: 321	Good bye Miss Shaw.

21-06-2012, 16:24	#32
allen_who Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,699	would just like to echo everything that has been said above. Another sad time for us It's beginning to make me feel old now that the classic series actors and actresses are passing away. It's very upsetting

21-06-2012, 16:26	#33
handymelon Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cloud Cuckoo Land Services: Holy Communion Posts: 4,487	I've just heard the sad news from a friend who MMS'd me the story. RIP, Caroline. Another bit of my childhood passed on and another companion gone before.

21-06-2012, 16:33	#34
TEDR Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,183	She was the best thing about the Pertwee years and cast a long shadow. Condolences.

21-06-2012, 17:24	#36
sovietusername Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Services: facebook, youtube, skype Posts: 1,149	So sad, only just found just now after going on Fcebook If only we could all regenerate

21-06-2012, 17:43	#38
Liparus Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,015	Sad news indeed. The first Who story I watched (repeated on the BBC in 2000) was DW and The Silurians which had Liz Shaw as the companion. To this day she remains my favourite.

21-06-2012, 18:14	#39
Muttley76 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: I wear a Stetson now... Services: Stetson's are cool Posts: 87,872	Very sad news, always loved Liz Shaw. RIP Caroline

21-06-2012, 18:24	#40
ocox Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 673	Sad so sad. RIP.

21-06-2012, 18:24	#41
bbll22 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Island of Sodor Services: Travelling the stars! (I wish!) Posts: 346	Personally I haven't seen much of Liz Shaw's time in Doctor Who - the Pertwee stuff I have seen was mainly Jo and Sarah Jane, but what I have seen of Liz and that of Caroline was brilliant. A modern companion for days gone by. And all of that is down to Caroline. Well done is all I can, but mainly thankyou...you will be missed...

21-06-2012, 18:26	#42
Steve_Fisher Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3	Damn... Goodbye Caroline, and thank you.

21-06-2012, 18:59	#43
CELT1987 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Scotland Services: Sky Sports, EPSN Posts: 3,291	So sad to hear of Caroline's passing. She was great as Liz Shaw, she worked well with Pertwee's Doctor. Shame she only did one series. RIP Caroline.

21-06-2012, 20:10	#44
Larry1971 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Berkshire Services: sky+HD BT Hub internet Posts: 82,033	I had no idea she was as old as that I know it's silly but the way you see Caroline, and Liz Sladen in Doctor Who you imagin them to always be like that and you can't quite believe it when you find out how old they are. A very talanred actress and attractive woman Carolines death is yet another sad loss to the world of Doctor Who. RIP Caroline.

21-06-2012, 20:15	#45
trilobite Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Angus, Scotland Services: Humax HDR-Fox T2. Posts: 725	Like others, I never saw her in Dr Who in the 70s. The first time I saw her was in *The Five Doctors. Thanks first to BBC Video, and later DVD, I like many others, had the chance eventually to view her performance. I thought she was rather good in the role, especially in Spearhead From Space*, where I am convinced that she is convinced that she is dealing with some fruit 'n' nut job, in the shape of the Doctor. I liked Liz as an aloof, prim professional. Quite different to some of the other companions. She will be missed.

21-06-2012, 20:27	#46
Jon Ross Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1,863	I think it's a real shame she didn't get a better innings on the show. She was a victim of the changing production on the programme at the time. Peter Bryant and Derrick Sherwin employed her, then left and the new team of Barry Letts and Terrance Dicks didn't want her character. It's a shame. If anything, Liz Shaw was just too ahead of her time as a Doctor Who companion. Letts and Dicks felt that you couldn't have a really clever, independent companion like that at the time, so they developed the less intelligent and accident-prone Jo Grant instead. I know Katy Manning was a popular companion, but I'd have to say the move from Liz Shaw to Jo Grant was a bit of a step backwards for the representation of women in the programme at the time. Liz Shaw had a lot of potential that was just wasted.

21-06-2012, 20:34	#47
King_Mrh Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 290	Rest in Peace Caroline, and a big thank you from a life-long fan.

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21-06-2012, 20:36	#48
stuartjk Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: the 12 colonies Posts: 253	Sad news, RIP Caroline John, very underrated companion.

21-06-2012, 22:23	#49
Residents Fan Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,075	Very, very sad to hear this news. Caroline was a talented actress and according to Courtney's auto-bio, also a lovely person. RIP Caroline.

21-06-2012, 22:28	#50
missemmerdale22 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 475	RIP Caroline i watched her first adventure spearheads in space at the weekend. It a shame that there not many left now from the unit days.