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SaraV1308
02-07-2012
Originally Posted by drumboogie:
“That leaves Pasha. He worked wonders with Chelsee last year (and I freely admit that I didnt think he would tick my boxes when he started) and to a certain extent did traditional choreography much of the time. I think he could get another contender this year as well - although maybe a more mature contender. he might be young but I dont think he should necessarily get the youngest female celeb.


Pasha may actually be one of the older dancers at 32. Artem is only just 30, I think, and Katya was 28. Pasha's been a dance teacher for a long time so I think he could cope with celebrities of all ages, although of course, the older the contestant, the less likely they are to win. Whoever he gets, I hope she's more eloquent than Chelsee who was embarrassing to watch in interviews.”

I never knew that. Thought Artem was older than that.
drumboogie
02-07-2012
Originally Posted by SaraV1308:
“I never knew that. Thought Artem was older than that.”

Artem was 30 in June. I think Ola will be 30 in September. Robin is 31. (I'd better stop. I'm beginning to sound obsessive. )
SaraV1308
02-07-2012
Originally Posted by drumboogie:
“Artem was 30 in June. I think Ola will be 30 in September. Robin is 31. (I'd better stop. I'm beginning to sound obsessive. )”

Feel free to continue... with the others...
drumboogie
02-07-2012
Originally Posted by SaraV1308:
“Feel free to continue... with the others...”

Depends on actual birthdays but these are pretty close:

Kristina = 34
Flavia = 33
Vincent = 33
Natalie = 32
Erin = 37
Anton = 46
Aliona = 28
Brendan = 36
James = 34.

Have I missed anybody out?
SaraV1308
02-07-2012
Originally Posted by drumboogie:
“Depends on actual birthdays but these are pretty close:

Kristina = 34
Flavia = 33
Vincent = 33
Natalie = 32
Erin = 37
Anton = 46
Aliona = 28
Brendan = 36
James = 34.

Have I missed anybody out?”

Great job. Vincent must be 34 though as he is all really a year older than Flavia.
drumboogie
02-07-2012
Originally Posted by SaraV1308:
“Great job. Vincent must be 34 though as he is all really a year older than Flavia.”

Vincent was born 15 March 1979. Doesn't that make him 33?
I forgot Karen who is 30.
SaraV1308
02-07-2012
Originally Posted by drumboogie:
“Vincent was born 15 March 1979. Doesn't that make him 33?
I forgot Karen who is 30.”

Im sure he has told me he is nearly a year older than Flav and she was born in March 1979.
Dilly 1
02-07-2012
Originally Posted by drumboogie:
“Vincent was born 15 March 1979. Doesn't that make him 33?
I forgot Karen who is 30.”

Originally Posted by SaraV1308:
“Im sure he has told me he is nearly a year older than Flav and she was born in March 1979.”

I think there was always the thing where they got Flav's age wrong in the papers and she could range from 27-30 in the space of a couple of articles, lol.

I think you are right Sara and Vincent is 34 and Flav 33.
SaraV1308
02-07-2012
Originally Posted by drumboogie:
“Vincent was born 15 March 1979. Doesn't that make him 33?
I forgot Karen who is 30.”

Originally Posted by Dilly 1:
“I think there was always the thing where they got Flav's age wrong in the papers and she could range from 27-30 in the space of a couple of articles, lol.

I think you are right Sara and Vincent is 34 and Flav 33.”

I think it was the unique way he has that caused me to remember. I think they were discussing some aspect of some dance (at a class once)...and Vincent said he was better at it coz he was a year older (or some rubbish like that).
*Topaz*
02-07-2012
Originally Posted by SaraV1308:
“Therefore in summary: the contender queue:

Girls: Flavia, Karen (probably) and Natalie
Boys: Vincent, Pasha and either James or Robin.

I still reckon there could be as many as 4 or 5 Olympians (or retired sportsmen) this season - as well as at least one musician so maybe this is the year that Strictly has more than the pre-requisite 6 ish contenders.”

Yes that would be who I favoured so I agree with you and ForerroRocher - although I wouldn't mind Erin favoured along with Natalie because I think she's had done her time with weaker celebs. I like Robin although I wouldn't say I'm a fan but I think he should be favoured over James simply because James has had his chances and Robin hasn't - I want to see what he comes with given a younger celeb.

Originally Posted by Damahepa:
“I must say that people dismissing Anton and Erin's Latin is a little bit insulting to them; yes clearly they're more focused on Ballroom, but they are professionals! Look at what Erin did with Austin- in the last few weeks his Latin was what was keeping him in the competition, his poor American Smooth was what lost it him to Lisa and Tom in the semi-finals! Colin Jackson too.

Anton seems to have been bombarded by this since Laila, is it not possible that Laila just wasn't good at Latin anyway? They've been plenty of those sort of contestants through the years, and even then I thought they did a pretty good Charleston amongst other not-so-bad latin routines. Anton really hasn't had any sort of chance to prove anybody wrong- and if you see some of the pre-entertainment series, Anton was doing the pro Jives and Cha Chas and not exactly doing a laughable job with them! I think he should get someone at least middle of the road so he can stay in a few weeks and has a chance of getting 7-9s, maybe the odd 10?”

I don't think anyone has criticised Erin - I for one wouldn't mind if she's given a contender because she can dance and teach Latin to an acceptable standard - Anton has proved time and again that not only can he not do some of the Latin dances properly but he can't teach them either! I gather it was problem before Laila anyway because he wasted his chances with Patsy Palmer! Even with a decent celeb like Laila he just uses it as an opportunity for his own buffonery. If she wasn't confident in Latin - it was his job to encourage and teach her it but he was shown in the training footage reinforcing her doubts - and by the way the Charleston is not taught and choreographed by the pros - that was a routine given to him and Laila by other teachers. He sticks out like a sore thumb in some of the pro Latin or contemporary routines which is why they don't put him in many- so the criticism he gets for his Latin is justified!

Originally Posted by drumboogie:
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Pasha may actually be one of the older dancers at 32. Artem is only just 30, I think, and Katya was 28. Pasha's been a dance teacher for a long time so I think he could cope with celebrities of all ages, although of course, the older the contestant, the less likely they are to win. Whoever he gets, I hope she's more eloquent than Chelsee who was embarrassing to watch in interviews.”

Yes I'd like to see Pasha with another good celeb and if he's back next year then perhaps try him with an older celeb then but I really hope Pasha will be favoured over Artem this year! Artem really needs to fully recover from his injury.
Damahepa
02-07-2012
Originally Posted by *Topaz*:
“Yes that would be who I favoured so I agree with you and ForerroRocher - although I wouldn't mind Erin favoured along with Natalie because I think she's had done her time with weaker celebs. I like Robin although I wouldn't say I'm a fan but I think he should be favoured over James simply because James has had his chances and Robin hasn't - I want to see what he comes with given a younger celeb.


I don't think anyone has criticised Erin - I for one wouldn't mind if she's given a contender because she can dance and teach Latin to an acceptable standard - Anton has proved time and again that not only can he not do some of the Latin dances properly but he can't teach them either! I gather it was problem before Laila anyway because he wasted his chances with Patsy Palmer! Even with a decent celeb like Laila he just uses it as an opportunity for his own buffonery. If she wasn't confident in Latin - it was his job to encourage and teach her it but he was shown in the training footage reinforcing her doubts - and by the way the Charleston is not taught and choreographed by the pros - that was a routine given to him and Laila by other teachers. He sticks out like a sore thumb in some of the pro Latin or contemporary routines which is why they don't put him in many- so the criticism he gets for his Latin is justified!



Yes I'd like to see Pasha with another good celeb and if he's back next year then perhaps try him with an older celeb then but I really hope Pasha will be favoured over Artem this year! Artem really needs to fully recover from his injury.”

He still clearly knows how to dance it. Like I said, look at some of the old professional dances, yes he never choreographed them, but he can still do them well! I think if he's given someone truly decent he might surprise a few people
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