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Old 24-06-2012, 15:36
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No they are not.

Plenty of companies use torrents to distribute files.
The torrent downloading we all know that goes on is illegal.
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Old 24-06-2012, 16:25
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The torrent downloading we all know that goes on is illegal.
It bemuses me when people try to deny torrenting is illegal when people have been very heavily fined and jailed for it.
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Old 24-06-2012, 17:06
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Don't you think television broadcasting has more to it than on demand services?

With tv you know there's always someone behind the scenes filming it, directing, producing, announcing, etc. There are people involved in ensuring the channels are displaying something at any time of the day.

But you could literally sit in front of your tv and download anything you want without having a "real" person be involved in whatever you end up watching. There's nobody there ensuring you see something.

Or maybe I'm looking too much into it!
Who do you think made them?
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Old 24-06-2012, 17:19
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http://www.filmon.com is not bad, free or pay subscription, they broadcast a lot but not all the freeview channels, handy if your abroad as tvcatchup blocks non UK and the free subscription gives access to some old 'B' movies and other old junk which at times is nice to watch.
Thank you, neo_wales, for your recommendation because that site's new to me and l'll go check it out.
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Old 24-06-2012, 17:26
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Not sure it's such a distinction.

Presumably Netflix et al have engineers - just web ones, not TV ones.
Yes but they'll only work at specific times of the day and to fix any potential issues.

Again to clarify I'm talking about those people who are keeping the channels running. Whether they're switching to teletext at midnight, or those running the 24hr news channels, or those that load the next program to run once the adverts finish. There's people behind the scenes all the time. And that's before you even get to any live broadcasts.
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Old 24-06-2012, 17:28
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Watching TV shows when they are broadcast allows you to discuss them further with friends, family, workmates, etc, the following day and you can discuss what might happen next, etc.

It's not the same discussing something that someone might have watched months ago or won't see for a long time.
Yeah it aligns everyone into specific windows of time allowing you to discuss the same program you watched with your colleague at work tomorrow morning.
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Old 24-06-2012, 17:33
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I know what you mean.

One thing I really miss is the local video shop and the whole process of going there, browsing, choosing, and having another human being serve you. I was a video junkie as a kid in the 80s/90s and I get ridiculously nostalgic for that whole routine and atmosphere.
you sound like kate winslet in that sky advert...
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Old 24-06-2012, 17:35
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The torrent downloading we all know that goes on is illegal.
No it isn't. It is the original file sharer who is responsible for the content of the file.
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Old 24-06-2012, 17:38
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It bemuses me when people try to deny torrenting is illegal when people have been very heavily fined and jailed for it.
No-one's been jailed for downloading torrents
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Old 24-06-2012, 18:01
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No-one's been jailed for downloading torrents
They've been jailed for downloading via torrents, right? Isn't that essentially the same thing?
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Old 24-06-2012, 18:07
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They've been jailed for downloading via torrents, right? Isn't that essentially the same thing?
that was what I meant - and I'd like to seep proof that anyone has...
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Old 24-06-2012, 19:55
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No they are not.

Plenty of companies use torrents to distribute files.
agree and of course you can legally pay for torrents.
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Old 24-06-2012, 20:02
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It bemuses me when people try to deny torrenting is illegal when people have been very heavily fined and jailed for it.
Torrenting's not illegal.

Downloading or distributing copyrighted or illegal content is illegal.
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Old 24-06-2012, 20:06
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Watching TV shows when they are broadcast allows you to discuss them further with friends, family, workmates, etc, the following day and you can discuss what might happen next, etc.

It's not the same discussing something that someone might have watched months ago or won't see for a long time.
What is their to discuss? You watch something because you find it entertaining, no need to discuss it, never felt the need to to be honest.
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Old 24-06-2012, 20:08
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Over what timescale? Eight minutes in an hour seems unlikely for BBC One unless there were several short programmes which each had promos before and after.

The Beeb are always self promoting and this one day I thought I would time it and by the time they they promoted each channel, with all their fancy video effects, and their radio stations it was about 8 minutes. how often they do that I have no idea, but even so.
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Old 24-06-2012, 21:11
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What is their to discuss? You watch something because you find it entertaining, no need to discuss it, never felt the need to to be honest.
There's everything to discuss - the plot, the surprises, the cliffhanger, the funny parts, what's likely to happen next, etc.

It's no different to discussing the highlights of a football match in the pub with your mates after the game or discussing a book with a workmate that you've both read.

It's just what normal people do.
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Old 24-06-2012, 22:58
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I dislike the term 'on demand' as that has a pushy, unpleasant sound to it.

"I demand to be entertained"

Why not 'on request' - that sounds much nicer to me. Anyway, no I don't like the idea as I enjoy anticipating a film premier or show I want to see. If it was available instantly (on a whim) I would probably not end up seeing it at all.
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Old 25-06-2012, 01:54
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I dislike the term 'on demand' as that has a pushy, unpleasant sound to it.

"I demand to be entertained"

Why not 'on request' - that sounds much nicer to me.
I've never thought about that, but I guess it's because the emphasis is on viewing when you want. A request could be rejected too which doesn't really support the viewing on your terms idea.

Anyway, no I don't like the idea as I enjoy anticipating a film premier or show I want to see. If it was available instantly (on a whim) I would probably not end up seeing it at all.
It doesn't affect the anticipation (in my opinion anyway) as it doesn't affect when the film will be released in the cinema, when, or when it will be released on DVD anyway - or when a TV show will be released, it just gives you more opportunity to choose when to watch it.

Don't get me wrong though, I'd hate to lose TV schedules the way they are at the moment, and the cinema. I just think on demand services and DVD rental (by post in particular) are excellent complementary services.
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Old 25-06-2012, 02:57
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What is their to discuss? You watch something because you find it entertaining, no need to discuss it, never felt the need to to be honest.
Its what you do with friends, sometimes I'll have chums round, cook a good dinner, glass or two of wine then we can watch a film or something after and chat about it.

It makes a nice little social event.
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Old 25-06-2012, 03:34
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agree and of course you can legally pay for torrents.
Sure, but we all know what torrents are mainly used for. You can't deny it.
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Old 25-06-2012, 06:16
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Its what you do with friends, sometimes I'll have chums round, cook a good dinner, glass or two of wine then we can watch a film or something after and chat about it.

It makes a nice little social event.
I feel like the only one who has never really felt a need to have people to chat about a film with. I must confess that part of the cinema/home viewing experience has always completely passed me by.
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Old 25-06-2012, 11:15
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I've never even thought about it. I rarely watch programmes when they're on - I tend to record them and watch them later (usually at the weekend). No, it's never bothered me at all. There are people involved in the making of a show; whether you watch it when it's on or later, the same people were still involved.
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Old 25-06-2012, 11:24
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The Beeb are always self promoting and this one day I thought I would time it and by the time they they promoted each channel, with all their fancy video effects, and their radio stations it was about 8 minutes. how often they do that I have no idea, but even so.
Was this eight continuous minutes on BBC One or was it eight minutes within an hour or another set period? Your assertion that eight minutes is a lot is rendered meaningless by your refusal to specify the timescale of your viewing.
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Old 25-06-2012, 11:39
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There's everything to discuss - the plot, the surprises, the cliffhanger, the funny parts, what's likely to happen next, etc.

It's no different to discussing the highlights of a football match in the pub with your mates after the game or discussing a book with a workmate that you've both read.

It's just what normal people do.
Do they?

The books I read are too highbrow for my friends to understand.

I always have to explain myself on Facebook as plenty of my friends have no idea what I am talking about.

all I get is "who is that?" "What does that mean" and sometimes simply "????"
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Old 25-06-2012, 11:57
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There's everything to discuss - the plot, the surprises, the cliffhanger, the funny parts, what's likely to happen next, etc.

It's no different to discussing the highlights of a football match in the pub with your mates after the game or discussing a book with a workmate that you've both read.

It's just what normal people do.
So I'm not normal because I don't do that???

I can see why people would do that. For me though it's not necessary. I watch a film because I want to watch it. I don't feel the need to talk about it afterwards, but I get that some people do.

Point is, there are plenty of normal people who don't want to discuss everything they've watched.
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