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Old 24-06-2012, 17:01   #1
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Why has Hollywood never done a Justice league Film?

Always wondered why they ve never done this.
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Old 24-06-2012, 17:02   #2
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Probably a rights issue. In the 80's Superman was big news and one of the major studios would have had the rights (Universal?). The end of the 80's onwards brought back popularity for Batman (Warner Bros?). Im guessing different studios own them. Wonder Woman hasn't been popular since the 70's and the Green Lantern while recently more popular was relatively unknown outside of the comic book stores probably owned by one of the big studios.
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Old 24-06-2012, 17:18   #3
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They're working on one now. Will beall is providing the script.

And there was that one from the late 90s using the JLI cast
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Old 24-06-2012, 17:26   #4
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Wasn't Mystery Men (1999) the unofficial title of a Justice League of America movie ?

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Old 24-06-2012, 18:07   #5
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They're working on one now. Will beall is providing the script.

And there was that one from the late 90s using the JLI cast
...and here it is!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz97bXR6H_0

(Yes. It does suck harder than a nuclear-powered Dyson! But technically it is a Justice League of America film. This was a pilot for an intended TV series. I just cannot imagine why it wasn't picked up... )
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Old 24-06-2012, 19:41   #6
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...and here it is!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz97bXR6H_0

(Yes. It does suck harder than a nuclear-powered Dyson! But technically it is a Justice League of America film. This was a pilot for an intended TV series. I just cannot imagine why it wasn't picked up... )
Why does the woman with curly brown hair keep cutting in talking when its supposed to be a film.
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Old 24-06-2012, 19:54   #7
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Probably a rights issue. In the 80's Superman was big news and one of the major studios would have had the rights (Universal?). The end of the 80's onwards brought back popularity for Batman (Warner Bros?). Im guessing different studios own them. Wonder Woman hasn't been popular since the 70's and the Green Lantern while recently more popular was relatively unknown outside of the comic book stores probably owned by one of the big studios.
DC is owned by Warner, and Warner still has the rights to Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, and others. It's not like with Marvel where many of the major characters/franchises are still licensed to someone else (e.g. Spider-Man to Sony, X-Men and Fantastic Four to Fox).

I think the reason may simply be that DC & Warner don't have anyone like Marvel's Kevin Feige - someone to passionately oversee everything, produce all the films, and tie it all together. All the DC films have always been separate things.

Sure, Warner/DC now has Christopher Nolan "overseeing" the latest attempt at fixing the Superman franchise, but it won't tie to his own Batman films, and any later attempt at a JL film will need to reboot everything again.

I said it in another thread, but I expect the latest attempt at a JL film to fail... and that's if it ever manages to leave development hell.
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Old 24-06-2012, 21:15   #8
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DC is owned by Warner, and Warner still has the rights to Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, and others. It's not like with Marvel where many of the major characters/franchises are still licensed to someone else (e.g. Spider-Man to Sony, X-Men and Fantastic Four to Fox).

I think the reason may simply be that DC & Warner don't have anyone like Marvel's Kevin Feige - someone to passionately oversee everything, produce all the films, and tie it all together. All the DC films have always been separate things.

Sure, Warner/DC now has Christopher Nolan "overseeing" the latest attempt at fixing the Superman franchise, but it won't tie to his own Batman films, and any later attempt at a JL film will need to reboot everything again.

I said it in another thread, but I expect the latest attempt at a JL film to fail... and that's if it ever manages to leave development hell.
Thanks for this Matt, I made a guess at the reasoning. I actually think it would be too much to fit into a 2 hour movie if they tried to do it anyway.
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Old 25-06-2012, 00:01   #9
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The only way it could work well is to do what Marvel has done with the Avengers. Otherwise, you're stuck introducing up to six backstories from scratch, then shoving all these characters together, giving them all equal script attention, providing a good villian for them to fight...
But look at what this will entail.
Superman has gotten a reboot. This can easily tie into a JL movie. So far, so good.
Green Lantern was a movie not loved by many, but there are talks of a sequel, and if done right this could still tie in this franchise to a JL.
A movie for Wonder Woman is a necessity. This, again, could be gotten off the ground fairly easily.
The biggest problem, of course, is Batman. Rushing into a reboot after Nolan's masterpieces, especially if TDKR is as good as it's looking, will create an audience ready to rip the film apart. I can't see a Batman movie working so soon after Nolan's trilogy, and I can't see a JL movie without Batman.

But, I agree with above posters. This movie will not be as special or well put together as the Avengers.
Why?
Because it's made purely for profit reasons. It's not being made as a culmination of stories, like the Avengers was. It's being made because Marvel have made billions at the box office, and some greedy head of Warner wants some of that sweet green for himself.
I pity the bloke who has to make this movie. Without leading in movies, it's next to impossible.
Imagine the Avengers without the movies that precede it. It would have been a disaster! With JL you do have Superman and Batman, who everyone knows, but that's a lot of ground to cover in a short time.
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Old 25-06-2012, 03:18   #10
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They dont need to do a series of films like marvel have..i think most people are already familiar with most of the characters in JL they dont need an introduction film..besides hawkgirl and martain manhunter who could easily be introduced together in a JL movie as there both aliens.
The JL cartoon is brilliant and they never really show there origins in that even of the bad guys..who cares why the flash runs fast..we can all see what his power is and an elborate backstory is not needed.
besides the fact that superhero origins are usually lame(explosions, bitten by an animal, aliens etc)
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Old 25-06-2012, 11:17   #11
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They dont need to do a series of films like marvel have..i think most people are already familiar with most of the characters in JL they dont need an introduction film..besides hawkgirl and martain manhunter who could easily be introduced together in a JL movie as there both aliens.
The JL cartoon is brilliant and they never really show there origins in that even of the bad guys..who cares why the flash runs fast..we can all see what his power is and an elborate backstory is not needed.
besides the fact that superhero origins are usually lame(explosions, bitten by an animal, aliens etc)
Imagine a series of build up films with Martian Manhunter making cameo appearances to recruit each Superhero. Hang on that sounds familiar!

Surprised nobody has mentioned this shocking TV moview yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice..._%28TV_film%29

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz97bXR6H_0
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Old 25-06-2012, 11:28   #12
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A JL movie would probably be easier to pull off than most people think.

Superman and Batman are arguably 2 of the most well known superheros on the planet, so they're the audience's way in and you gradually introduce the others as the movie takes place. Most people have some level of familiarity with Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and Flash so there would be less exposition required to introduce them, and then Cyborg, Aquaman and Manhunter could be added depending on what the script required.

Alternatively, lead off with Victor Stone's transformation into Cyborg, then throw him and the audience headfirst into a fight alongside the Justice League and we learn things along the way when he does.

The JL new-52 reboot would be the perfect place to start. It kicks off with Bats, Supes and GL and adds the others one by one until the final face off with Darkseid.
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Old 25-06-2012, 12:33   #13
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Imagine a series of build up films with Martian Manhunter making cameo appearances to recruit each Superhero. Hang on that sounds familiar!

Surprised nobody has mentioned this shocking TV moview yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice..._%28TV_film%29

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz97bXR6H_0
OI!!!

I put that link in and commented on this in Entry #5 yesterday!

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Old 25-06-2012, 12:45   #14
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Hasn't there been some reasonable JLA animations done?

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Old 25-06-2012, 12:53   #15
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Can you imagine Nolan's Batman working along side Wonder Woman or Aqua Man, to name two previous Justice League members. A reboot would be needed. Just my opinion of course
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Old 25-06-2012, 13:45   #16
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Hasn't there been some reasonable JLA animations done?

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Yeah.
Justice League has a pretty respectable recent history for animation.

There's the Justice League animated series from Warners/Cartoon Network, which then branched off into Justice League Unlimited.
These were in the style of Batman:the animated series and even had story arcs outside of the expected mythology (i.e. A relationship between Hawkgirl and John Stewart).

As for specific movies there are at least 3 really good Warners animated movies (be aware that there are a lot of "movies" consisting of the series two-parters put together).

I can recommend;

Justice League : The New Frontier -
A "Golden Age" interpretation of the league, if they had formed in the 1950's.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0902272/

Justice League: Crisis on two Earths -
A straight-forward version of the league, fighting an alternate version of themselves from another reality.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1494772/

and my favourite...
Justice League : Doom
This has the founding members of the league fighting a group of super-villians ("League of Doom") armed with details of their weaknesses. Basically it addresses Batman's distrust of his fellow heroes.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2027128/
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Old 26-06-2012, 03:20   #17
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Batman's being rebooted because TDKR is going to be Christian Bale and Nolan's last Batman film plus the Nolan Batman wouldn't fit in a world with superheroes hence it's being rebooted, I imagine they'll keep the dark and gritty tone but make it less grounded in reality which would allow for the more fantastical Batman villians like Mr Freeze, Clayface etc

Man of Steel needs to be successful if WB and DC want to kickstart their DC film universe but I doubt they'll put any hints of the Justice League into MoS, they'll save that either for a sequel or in any other DC films like Wonder Woman or the Flash.

I imagine they'll try and link the DC films not unlike the Marvel films, Martian Manhunter in his human form or Amanda Waller would be the best characters to do so.
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Old 26-06-2012, 14:26   #18
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Otherwise, you're stuck introducing up to six backstories from scratch, then shoving all these characters together, giving them all equal script attention, providing a good villian for them to fight...
Why not just do a story like what they did in Lego batman 2 where Lex and Joker team up.
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