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Old 26-06-2012, 10:16
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No different to the News of the World/The Sun (amongst others) counting down the days until Charlotte Church became legal, is it?
Which at the time most people thought the same.
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Old 26-06-2012, 10:33
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Who cares if Tom is gay or not honestly some people have so little going on in their lives that they can always find time to speculate over a persons sexuality. It's 2012 not 1912 yes people are gay.
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Old 26-06-2012, 10:42
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Who cares if Tom is gay or not honestly some people have so little going on in their lives that they can always find time to speculate over a persons sexuality. It's 2012 not 1912 yes people are gay.
100% agree
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Old 26-06-2012, 10:57
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Who cares if Tom is gay or not honestly some people have so little going on in their lives that they can always find time to speculate over a persons sexuality. It's 2012 not 1912 yes people are gay.
Then why is it negative to discuss it?

It's a paradox of logic to say 'There's nothing wrong with being gay' and then insisting nobody ever discuss it.

It's completely counter to the interests of the gay rights movement that we allow people to make this a 'taboo' issue as they have done.

I can't understand why some people don't see it as an issue that the very second homosexuality is brought up it's immediately closed down as a subject or talking point. Is that supposed to enhance equality in some way?

How can you claim to want homosexuality treated 'normally' by society if you insist on it being completely taboo, unlike heterosexuality?
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:00
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I think he is, but I don't think he'll come out until his career is over. Too much money to be made on being a 'heartthrob' for the ladies to come out now.
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:50
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If he is, it's his business, and I question the mental state of the voyeurs who are fascinated by his sexual orientation.
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:55
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If he is, it's his business, and I question the mental state of the voyeurs who are fascinated by his sexual orientation.
You think it's strange people are curious as to someone's sexual orientation?

So if a man sees someone and they think 'she's hot' you'd think them odd?

Or do you think the 'She's hot' is underlined with 'but I have no desire ever to have sex with that person and if I ever was in the company of her I would not even try to enquire as to the possibility because that would be odd' ?
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Old 26-06-2012, 11:58
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I'm quite sure, when my straight friends see a glamour model, or whatever, they often think 'I'd love to have sex with her'.

Are we assuming we do this and think this with absolutely no thought as to her sexuality at all?
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:08
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You think it's strange people are curious as to someone's sexual orientation?

So if a man sees someone and they think 'she's hot' you'd think them odd?

Or do you think the 'She's hot' is underlined with 'but I have no desire ever to have sex with that person and if I ever was in the company of her I would not even try to enquire as to the possibility because that would be odd' ?
I do think it strange when said person has informed people that he is not gay. You should therefore take their word for it and stop trying to out them or suggest that they are lying.

Accept that he's not and move on.
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:09
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If he is, it's his business, and I question the mental state of the voyeurs who are fascinated by his sexual orientation.
Seriously? LOL...
Sex, sexuality, and being curious as to what people are is very natural. Threads like this make me laugh when people come in and try and sound better than everyone else by saying it's wrong or weird to be asking such questions.
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:09
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I'm quite sure, when my straight friends see a glamour model, or whatever, they often think 'I'd love to have sex with her'.

Are we assuming we do this and think this with absolutely no thought as to her sexuality at all?
I doubt they do as the assumption is that she is straight. You are assuming he is gay because he's a bit camp.
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:13
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I doubt they do as the assumption is that she is straight. You are assuming he is gay because he's a bit camp.
So it's fine to assume someone is straight, but not that they're gay?
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:13
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You think it's strange people are curious as to someone's sexual orientation?
Yes.

And not just sexual orientation, but any private/personal aspect to an individual's life, unless there's a justification based on possible wrongdoing/illegality etc..
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:15
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Yes.

And not just sexual orientation, but any private/personal aspect to an individual's life, unless there's a justification based on possible wrongdoing/illegality etc..
So when you're interested in someone you only care if you're orientational compatible if you suspect they've done something wrong?
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:16
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THis is the very heart of matter.

Assuming someone is straight? Not a problem?

Yet reverse that and suddenly we should only assume someone is gay if we suspect wrong-doing. It's absolutely perverse in logic.
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:16
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So it's fine to assume someone is straight, but not that they're gay?
It's not when the person has publicly stated he isn't. The guy is only a young man, we hardly know ourselves at that age and you think it's fine to suggest his sexual orientation judged on a couple of interviews you've seen. He's also a sportsman, not some popstar conning young girls into thinking they are straight otherwise record sales would go down. Leave the guy alone.
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:17
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So when you're interested in someone you only care if you're orientational compatible if you suspect they've done something wrong?
I'd be interested in a person's sexual orientation if they were gay for example, while being homophobic, which is often the case among politicians for instance, because it demonstrates hypocrisy.

As far as being compatible, I harbour no delusions of being in relationships with celebrities, so I don't waste my time speculating on such matters.
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:18
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It is when the person has publicly stated he isn't. The guy is only a young man, we hardly know ourselves at that age and you think it's fine to suggest his sexual orientation judged on him clowning about when being interviewed on TV.
Why is it any different to assuming he's straight?

I don't get this. We're all 'for' equality, apparently. Yet as soon as someone equates the two orientations, it's wrong.

Would you chastise someone for speculating he had a girlfriend?

If not, why not?

P.S...you already haven't.
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:19
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The only time I'd be interested in a person's sexual orientation would be if they were gay for example, while being homophobic, which is often the case among politicians for instance, because it demonstrates hypocrisy.

As far as being compatible, I harbour no delusions of being in relationships with celebrities, so I don't waste my time speculating on such matters.
But you waste your time on those who do waste their time on such matters?

Classic 'this is so unimportant I'll spend a significant proportion of my time telling you how unimportant it is' argument.
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:20
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Why is it any different to assuming he's straight?

I don't get this. We're all 'for' equality, apparently. Yet as soon as someone equates the two orientations, it's wrong.

Would you chastise someone for speculating he had a girlfriend?

If not, why not?

P.S...you already haven't.
Why are you using a young sportsman who from what I can see has done no harm to anyone just so you can push your agenda?
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:21
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Why are you using a young sportsman who from what I can see has done no harm to anyone just so you can push your agenda?
Answer the question.

Why is it fine to speculate someone is straight, but not gay?
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:21
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But you waste your time on those who do waste their time on such matters?

Classic 'this is so unimportant I'll spend a significant proportion of my time telling you how unimportant it is' argument.
Questioning the validity of a debate is perfectly justified

It's certainly more constructive than wondering if Tom Daley's sexual orientation means one has a better chance of hooking up with him, which quite frankly, is largely delusional
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:21
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Answer the question.

Why is it fine to speculate someone is straight, but not gay?
No-one speculates if anyone is straight, so there is no question to answer.
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:22
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No-one speculates if anyone is straight, so there is no question to answer.
Someone has in this thread. Yet you didn't comment.
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Old 26-06-2012, 12:24
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The fact that people are even equating being gay as something that's harmful or damaging or hurtful to someone, shows exactly what their agenda is.
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