[nattoyaki]

Originally Posted by Listentome

You're right, we can't know how Pegg would be as The Doctor unless he plays it.
...

Really? Everything I've seen him in he's the same, and I'm sure he'd play the Doctor as a gurning idiot...

[lach doch mal]

Originally Posted by nattoyaki

I cannot watch anything Pegg is in - he is the ultimate irritant to me, I would have to stop watching such is my discomfort whenever I see him

I'm sure he's reasonably intelligent and a nice guy but...

I've talked to a lot of people I know about him (because he's guested at/ruined a couple of Coldplay concerts I've been to) and while a lot think he's fantastic (!!) a lot feel like me. Interestingly, foreigners (and particularly younger foreign ladies) seem to love him for some reason.

I think he's this generation's Mr Bean.

That's a bit of a strange statement. How did you come to this conclusion?

I must be the only one, who hasn't got an opinion. He won't be cast (and I don't have a source for this, it's my own opinion), but if he were, I would wait until I see him playing the Doctor before I judge it.

[nattoyaki]

Originally Posted by lach doch mal

That's a bit of a strange statement. Why did you come to this conclusion?
...

The short answer is (I've already stated) I have talked to an awful lot of people about him.

The more detailed explanation is: because I'm a member of a Coldplay forum which I'm very active in, and know hundreds of people from there (in person) and many, many, more online.

It really annoyed me when he appeared with Coldplay and ruined (for me) part of the concert so I've discussed it quite a bit.

Brits seem to either love him or hate him, like Mr Bean (I would say perhaps 60-70% at least like him, so us 'haters' are in the minority I've no doubt). The foreigners I've talked to all like him, and of those the younger foreign ladies (more than 30 I'd say, all in their twenties - young for me ) all absolutely adore him.

It may be something slightly unique to foreign Coldplay fans, I've no idea. My informed guess is that as they're so enamoured with the band (a lot of them are really hardcore fans) they have a particular fondness for British guys.

Hope that makes sense

[lach doch mal]

Originally Posted by nattoyaki

The short answer is (I've already stated) I have talked to an awful lot of people about him.

The more detailed explanation is: because I'm a member of a Coldplay forum which I'm very active in, and know hundreds of people from there (in person) and many, many, more online.

It really annoyed me when he appeared with Coldplay and ruined (for me) part of the concert so I've discussed it quite a bit.

Brits seem to either love him or hate him, like Mr Bean (I would say perhaps 60-70% at least like him, so us 'haters' are in the minority I've no doubt). The foreigners I've talked to all like him, and of those the younger foreign ladies (more than 30 I'd say, all in their twenties - young for me ) all absolutely adore him.

It may be something slightly unique to foreign Coldplay fans, I've no idea. My informed guess is that as they're so enamoured with the band (a lot of them are really hardcore fans) they have a particular fondness for British guys.

Hope that makes sense

Thanks for the detailed answer, but I'm sure you are always guessing what I'm going to say (biased and very small sample).

I honestly don't see the similarity with Mr Bean, and I'm not a Coldplay fan. Well I'm not really a Simon Pegg fan either, but I don't dislike him either.

[nattoyaki]

Originally Posted by lach doch mal

Thanks for the detailed answer, but I'm sure you are always guessing what I'm going to say (biased and very small sample).

I honestly don't see the similarity with Mr Bean, and I'm not a Coldplay fan. Well I'm not really a Simon Pegg fan either, but I don't dislike him either.

Fair enough, but I wouldn't personally call hundreds of people a small sample for just one person to have discussed him with! <edit> Why would they be biased?

If anyone likes they can do their own research. Look on Coldplaying.com (biggest Coldplay fansite in the world) for reaction to his appearances with them. You'll find:

- Zero British fans commenting that they enjoyed seeing him.

- A few older foreign fans saying it was cool and a great surprise.

- Loads of gushing foreign girls in their early to late twenties saying ZOMG it was absolutely incredible!!!!!1!!1

The similarity with Mr Bean is from personal experience. I lived in the UK when it was first on - I'd say the majority at least liked it, many loved it, a minority absolutely detested it. Then I went to live in Asia for many years, and without exception, across various countries, he was universally adored. This was at his height and often would be the first Englishman mentioned when you said you were from England (until Beckham!)!

The same thing happened with Benny Hill I believe - mixed reaction at home, though probably generally positive, absolutely adored in the States.

[outside]

Coldplay have managed to capture the sound of complete and utter boredom. Perfectly.

On topic, I wouldn't cast Pegg.

[daveyboy7472]

Originally Posted by nattoyaki

Really? Everything I've seen him in he's the same, and I'm sure he'd play the Doctor as a gurning idiot...

Originally Posted by lach doch mal

I must be the only one, who hasn't got an opinion. He won't be cast (and I don't have a source for this, it's my own opinion), but if he were, I would wait until I see him playing the Doctor before I judge it.

I have to agree with Lach on this. Previous roles should really have no influence on how an actor would approach the role of The Doctor. You only have to look at Jon Pertwee. If this forum had been in existence when he was cast, no doubt he would have been slated and people would expect him to play the role in character disguises as he had done for most of his career up until that point.

However, he went and did exactly the opposite and played against the type of role he was known for. So similarly, in the unlikely event Simon Pegg was ever cast, how do you know he would play the role a certain way until you actually see him in it? As Lach said, you really would need to wait and judge. Sometimes I still find it hard to believe people still haven't learned the lessons from Matt Smith's casting. The change in attitude towards him since his initial casting has been astounding.

[lach doch mal]

Originally Posted by nattoyaki

Fair enough, but I wouldn't personally call hundreds of people a small sample for just one person to have discussed him with! <edit> Why would they be biased?

If anyone likes they can do their own research. Look on Coldplaying.com (biggest Coldplay fansite in the world) for reaction to his appearances with them. You'll find:

- Zero British fans commenting that they enjoyed seeing him.

- A few older foreign fans saying it was cool and a great surprise.

- Loads of gushing foreign girls in their early to late twenties saying ZOMG it was absolutely incredible!!!!!1!!1

The similarity with Mr Bean is from personal experience. I lived in the UK when it was first on - I'd say the majority at least liked it, many loved it, a minority absolutely detested it. Then I went to live in Asia for many years, and without exception, across various countries, he was universally adored. This was at his height and often would be the first Englishman mentioned when you said you were from England (until Beckham!)!

The same thing happened with Benny Hill I believe - mixed reaction at home, though probably generally positive, absolutely adored in the States.

When you conduct an experiment and you recruit your sample from the same population (Coldplay forum), it's biased (in scientific terms). Unless you intended to investigate the opinions of Coldplay fans, in which case you used the right population for your sample.

A sample of 100 people is very small, considering you want to generalise your findings to the whole population. 100 foreign girls on a Coldplay forum would definitely not be a good representation of foreign girls in general. Just try to calculate in your head how many foreign girls exist in the world and you will see that 100 or even a 1000 is a very small percentage.

Furthermore, I would very much doubt that you talked to 100s of people, we often overestimate the amount of people or amount of support there is when we try to back up our own opinions of something (e.g. loads of people agree with me that the current government is sh*t is unsubstantiated, particularly if the current government is elected again). However, I will concede that I don't know to how many people you talked, and it is possible that you talked to hundreds of foreign girls about this.

[nattoyaki]

Originally Posted by daveyboy7472

I have to agree with Lach on this. Previous roles should really have no influence on how an actor would approach the role of The Doctor. You only have to look at Jon Pertwee. If this forum had been in existence when he was cast, no doubt he would have been slated and people would expect him to play the role in character disguises as he had done for most of his career up until that point.

However, he went and did exactly the opposite and played against the type of role he was known for. So similarly, in the unlikely event Simon Pegg was ever cast, how do you know he would play the role a certain way until you actually see him in it? As Lach said, you really would need to wait and judge. Sometimes I still find it hard to believe people still haven't learned the lessons from Matt Smith's casting. The change in attitude towards him since his initial casting has been astounding.

Interesting about Pertwee - I don't know the background to that. And I am sure you are right, but alas my Pegg dislike is too strong for any sensible argument to sway me. I just wouldn't watch.

<edit> Pegg plays the same character, more or less, in everything I've seen him in. He is also the same character in real life, which is why I believe he's completely 'one note'. Is that similar to the situation with Pertwee before he took over?

Originally Posted by lach doch mal

When you conduct an experiment and you recruit your sample from the same population (Coldplay forum), it's biased (in scientific terms). Unless you intended to investigate the opinions of Coldplay fans, in which case you used the right population for your sample.

I have talked to hundreds of people about this (not just foreign girls - I don't go on there to talk to foreign girls, I talk to anyone) - I can probably name them all (it'd take me a bit of time, but still..)!

Anyway, I don't want to get too far into this - I never said it was a scientific experiment. That's not what I come here for, and I find it an absurd thing to say (sorry). I just posted what I've found from talking to an awful lot of people I know from a Coldplay forum and also lots of people I know in real life. What else can I do?

[vrooom]

Pegg said in an interview that he won't do any more TV because if he does it will lessen his currency as a film star. Make of that what you will.

But no, Pegg would make an awful Doctor and an awful Master. He's done his stint.

[daveyboy7472]

Originally Posted by nattoyaki

Interesting about Pertwee - I don't know the background to that. And I am sure you are right, but alas my Pegg dislike is too strong for any sensible argument to sway me. I just wouldn't watch.

<edit> Pegg plays the same character, more or less, in everything I've seen him in. He is also the same character in real life, which is why I believe he's completely 'one note'. Is that similar to the situation with Pertwee before he took over?

Pretty much, yes. He called it a 'Green umbrella' which he hid under, he rarely played himself. Everything I've seen him in pre-who, from The Avengers to the Carry-On Films he was in heavily made up disguises. If you ever get to watch The Green Death where he dresses as a milkman, you'll get some idea of what he did before.

Also forgot to mention William Hartnell as well. Spent most of his life playing bullying sergeant majors etc. The role of The Doctor was a complete change for him, especially so late in his career. So you see, people can change. Maybe one day Pegg really will play The Doctor and prove you wrong.

[lach doch mal]

Originally Posted by nattoyaki

Interesting about Pertwee - I don't know the background to that. And I am sure you are right, but alas my Pegg dislike is too strong for any sensible argument to sway me. I just wouldn't watch.



I have talked to hundreds of people about this - I can probably name them all (it'd take me a bit of time, but still..)!

Anyway, I don't want to get too far into this - I never said it was a scientific experiment. That's not what I come here for, and I find it an absurd thing to say (sorry). I just posted what I've found from talking to an awful lot of people I know from a Coldplay forum and also lots of people I know in real life. What else can I do?

You stated that you wouldn't call 100 people a small sample and you asked why I called it biased, and I responded. It's as simple as that. No need for an argument. I assumed you were interested in my response. However, it still remains that this is only the opinion of one person (you) talking to a small sample of people on a forum with similar interests (Coldplay). It's not a good representation of the real world.

As an example, if I discussed Doctor Who with my colleagues at work, I could tell them that a lot of people I talk to (100s of people) like Doctor Who. As such, I state that in my experience most people must like Doctor Who, because I generalise my experiences from the Internet forum to the real world. If quizzed, I might have to admit that I'm mainly talking to people on an Internet forum related to Doctor Who and to my friends that share my interest in Doctor Who, which would make my assumption a bit shaky, because I used a pretty biased and relatively small sample. This was the point of my response.

By the way, scientific experiments are part of everyday life, and they are not just run in laboratories. School kids learn about scientific procedures in Schools and as such some knowledge of scientific experimentation and population sampling should not be deemed absurd. In fact anyone should know about sampling and how attitudes etc. are measured, because otherwise you cannot evaluate things you read in the news. Have you ever wondered why in adverts they have to report how many people they interviewed about the fantastic properties of a new lotion. 80% women agreed that their wrinkles disappeared (cue small writing that only 20 women took part). It's the same with many other things in everyday life.

[daveyboy7472]

Originally Posted by lach doch mal

You stated that you wouldn't call 100 people a small sample and you asked why I called it biased, and I responded. It's as simple as that. No need for an argument. I assumed you were interested in my response. However, it still remains that this is only the opinion of one person (you) talking to a small sample of people on a forum with similar interests (Coldplay). It's not a good representation of the real world.

As an example, if I discussed Doctor Who with my colleagues at work, I could tell them that a lot of people I talk to (100s of people) like Doctor Who. As such, I state that in my experience most people must like Doctor Who, because I generalise my experiences from the Internet forum to the real world. If quizzed, I might have to admit that I'm mainly talking to people on an Internet forum related to Doctor Who and to my friends that share my interest in Doctor Who, which would make my assumption a bit shaky, because I used a pretty biased and relatively small sample. This was the point of my response.

By the way, scientific experiments are part of everyday life, and they are not just run in laboratories. School kids learn about scientific procedures in Schools and as such some knowledge of scientific experimentation and population sampling should not be deemed absurd. In fact anyone should know about sampling and how attitudes etc. are measured, because otherwise you cannot evaluate things you read in the news. Have you ever wondered why in adverts they have to report how many people they interviewed about the fantastic properties of a new lotion. 80% women agreed that their wrinkles disappeared (cue small writing that only 20 women took part). It's the same with many other things in everyday life.

Lach, I'm sure you've been to the school of Crazzy with your postings lately!

[lach doch mal]

Originally Posted by daveyboy7472

Lach, I'm sure you've been to the school of Crazzy with your postings lately!

I'll take this as the biggest compliment ever, but alas I'm not. She is lovely, and I shouldn't be allowed to clean her shoes.

Spoiler

Unless you mean I have gone crazy, which is closer to the truth

[daveyboy7472]

No, it was seriously meant as a compliment. Just the way the you put your arguments forward in an exhaustive way and use several sentences to do it, that was exactly how Crazzy used to post, bless her.

[lach doch mal]

Originally Posted by daveyboy7472

No, it was seriously meant as a compliment. Just the way the you put your arguments forward in an exhaustive way and use several sentences to do it, that was exactly how Crazzy used to post, bless her.

Well I take it, although I can imagine that it sometimes appears as if I'm arguing when I'm just trying to make sure that people understand what I mean. I must write shorter posts.

[nattoyaki]

Originally Posted by daveyboy7472

Pretty much, yes. He called it a 'Green umbrella' which he hid under, he rarely played himself. Everything I've seen him in pre-who, from The Avengers to the Carry-On Films he was in heavily made up disguises. If you ever get to watch The Green Death where he dresses as a milkman, you'll get some idea of what he did before.

Also forgot to mention William Hartnell as well. Spent most of his life playing bullying sergeant majors etc. The role of The Doctor was a complete change for him, especially so late in his career. So you see, people can change. Maybe one day Pegg really will play The Doctor and prove you wrong.

Many thanks for that, very interesting So, the difference with Pegg, perhaps, is that Pegg plays the same role he plays in 'real life' - probably (my take) not his true nature at all, but the role he falls into in his films and with people day-to-day.

Originally Posted by lach doch mal

You stated that you wouldn't call 100 people a small sample and you asked why I called it biased, and I responded. It's as simple as that. No need for an argument. I assumed you were interested in my response. However, it still remains that this is only the opinion of one person (you) talking to a small sample of people on a forum with similar interests (Coldplay). It's not a good representation of the real world.

As an example, if I discussed Doctor Who with my colleagues at work, I could tell them that a lot of people I talk to (100s of people) like Doctor Who. As such, I state that in my experience most people must like Doctor Who, because I generalise my experiences from the Internet forum to the real world. If quizzed, I might have to admit that I'm mainly talking to people on an Internet forum related to Doctor Who and to my friends that share my interest in Doctor Who, which would make my assumption a bit shaky, because I used a pretty biased and relatively small sample. This was the point of my response.

By the way, scientific experiments are part of everyday life, and they are not just run in laboratories. School kids learn about scientific procedures in Schools and as such some knowledge of scientific experimentation and population sampling should not be deemed absurd. In fact anyone should know about sampling and how attitudes etc. are measured, because otherwise you cannot evaluate things you read in the news. Have you ever wondered why in adverts they have to report how many people they interviewed about the fantastic properties of a new lotion. 80% women agreed that their wrinkles disappeared (cue small writing that only 20 women took part). It's the same with many other things in everyday life.

I said I wouldn't call a couple of hundred (roughly) a small sample for someone who is not actually researching the topic and is just going about their everyday lives.

All I can call on is the people I have spoken to about Simon Pegg - those online (for a particular reason i.e. Coldplay and now on here) AND dozens of family and friends. Again, what more can I do?

The bias would be in favour of Simon Pegg amongst the Coldplay fans, if anything, because of a) his nationality and friendship with the band, and b) they are generally supportive of the band (even when he ruins a song or two, or they do other stupid things).

Wouldn't you perhaps then say the fact that there is barely a SINGLE person posting on those forums after a gig where he has appeared either from a) the UK, or b) an older foreign fan, expressing appreciation of any sort whatsoever perhaps be even more telling?

I was interested in your response, but to hold me to 'scientific' standards over what was just anecdotal (and very clearly signposted as such) is rather confusing me and I'm quite taken aback.

There is absolutely no argument wanted here, and I'm surprised you used that word because it never crossed my mind that this was an argument

Your example is ridiculous.Extrapolating anything from a Doctor Who forum and then presenting it in 'real life' to anyone as representative of a general attitude towards Doctor Who would be foolish, you know that. However I wasn't referring to a Doctor Who forum, a Simon Pegg (for or against) forum - nothing related to the show whatsoever. And of those, say, 200 people, at least fifty are friends and family. Am I also not allowed to post what they've told me about Pegg? If I said the people I talked to had been on a cheese forum, or a dog forum, would that make their point of view anymore acceptable to you? If so, why?

I come on a forum to discuss things, not be lectured that the opinions of myself and many people I know are not valid, and implied that it may not be mentioned without deep cross-examination, simply because they like a particular band, (do AI figures, for example, take into account peoples' likes and dislikes across all aspects of life?)

I know all about adverts, thank you, and that is part of the reason why I never watch any.

And scientific experiments? Please credit me at least with enough intelligence to know that life itself is an almost non-stop series of scientific experiments ('how much milk can I add to my coffee before it starts to become difficult to dissolve the granules?', 'how hard do I need to accelerate around this corner to avoid losing so much speed that I don't to downshift gears?', 'how hot can I make the bath for best relaxation without it getting overwhelming?' etc etc etc). I suggest we don't need to label all this as 'scientific experiment' anymore than you need to dissect my (non) research when I just post what people have told me on a non-scientific discussion forum and in real life. Perhaps I need sworn affidavits next time before I venture an opinion here

I don't intend to come back to this thread - life is too short for this kind of nonsense. I have a habit of rising to needlessly pedantic and/or insulting posts online, and just about enough intellectual ability (thank you) to be able to reasonably do so.

I'm just surprised as although I only joined last year I've been a reader for many years, and you lach and granny have always seemed like very reasonable voices on here (granny for me is kind and a voice of reason, perhaps - yours are the posts I more remember for tying into my own tastes, actually).

I could say more but won't. Goodnight to you all.

[lach doch mal]

Originally Posted by nattoyaki

Many thanks for that, very interesting So, the difference with Pegg, perhaps, is that Pegg plays the same role he plays in 'real life' - probably (my take) not his true nature at all, but the role he falls into in his films and with people day-to-day.



I said I wouldn't call a couple of hundred (roughly) a small sample for someone who is not actually researching the topic and is just going about their everyday lives.

All I can call on is the people I have spoken to about Simon Pegg - those online (for a particular reason i.e. Coldplay and now on here) AND dozens of family and friends. Again, what more can I do?

The bias would be in favour of Simon Pegg amongst the Coldplay fans, if anything, because of a) his nationality and friendship with the band, and b) they are generally supportive of the band (even when he ruins a song or two, or they do other stupid things).

Wouldn't you perhaps then say the fact that there is barely a SINGLE person posting on those forums after a gig where he has appeared either from a) the UK, or b) an older foreign fan, expressing appreciation of any sort whatsoever perhaps be even more telling?

I was interested in your response, but to hold me to 'scientific' standards over what was just anecdotal (and very clearly signposted as such) is rather confusing me and I'm quite taken aback.

There is absolutely no argument wanted here, and I'm surprised you used that word because it never crossed my mind that this was an argument

Your example is ridiculous.Extrapolating anything from a Doctor Who forum and then presenting it in 'real life' to anyone as representative of a general attitude towards Doctor Who would be foolish, you know that. However I wasn't referring to a Doctor Who forum, a Simon Pegg (for or against) forum - nothing related to the show whatsoever. And of those, say, 200 people, at least fifty are friends and family. Am I also not allowed to post what they've told me about Pegg? If I said the people I talked to had been on a cheese forum, or a dog forum, would that make their point of view anymore acceptable to you? If so, why?

I come on a forum to discuss things, not be lectured that the opinions of myself and many people I know are not valid, and implied that it may not be mentioned without deep cross-examination, simply because they like a particular band, (do AI figures, for example, take into account peoples' likes and dislikes across all aspects of life?)

I know all about adverts, thank you, and that is part of the reason why I never watch any.

And scientific experiments? Please credit me at least with enough intelligence to know that life itself is an almost non-stop series of scientific experiments ('how much milk can I add to my coffee before it starts to become difficult to dissolve the granules?', 'how hard do I need to accelerate around this corner to avoid losing so much speed that I don't to downshift gears?', 'how hot can I make the bath for best relaxation without it getting overwhelming?' etc etc etc). I suggest we don't need to label all this as 'scientific experiment' anymore than you need to dissect my (non) research when I just post what people have told me on a non-scientific discussion forum and in real life. Perhaps I need sworn affidavits next time before I venture an opinion here

I don't intend to come back to this thread - life is too short for this kind of nonsense. I have a habit of rising to needlessly pedantic and/or insulting posts online, and just about enough intellectual ability (thank you) to be able to reasonably do so.

I'm just surprised as although I only joined last year I've been a reader for many years, and you lach and granny have always seemed like very reasonable voices on here (granny for me is kind and a voice of reason, perhaps - yours are the posts I more remember for tying into my own tastes, actually).

I could say more but won't. Goodnight to you all.

I'm not unreasonable, and I don't expect you to do anything, but I question that talking to people online and family friends would constitute a representable sample, that's all.

I'm a bit confused that you seem to think that I'm trying to argue with you or that I'm trying to be nasty to you. I'm not. I'm just questioning whether your personal opinion of something based on talking to a limited sample (at least in my view) can be right. I personally think that there will be many foreign girls who don't like Simon Pegg. I know quite a few foreigners who don't particularly like him and quite a few British people who adore him, but I don't think I can use this as real evidence.

Nothing more or less. Please don't take it personally, but it's part of the forum that people question what you post and try to discuss it.

[Granny McSmith]

Originally Posted by nattoyaki

I'm just surprised as although I only joined last year I've been a reader for many years, and you lach and granny have always seemed like very reasonable voices on here (granny for me is kind and a voice of reason, perhaps - yours are the posts I more remember for tying into my own tastes, actually).

.

Thank you for your kind words about me (I think lach thinks I was unkind recently, about Christopher Eccleston).

I do like Simon Pegg, though, (loved his Scotty, though not everyone did) but I am neither young nor foreign, so that might mess up the sampling.

[lach doch mal]

Originally Posted by Granny McSmith

Thank you for your kind words about me (I think lach thinks I was unkind recently, about Christopher Eccleston).

I do like Simon Pegg, though, (loved his Scotty, though not everyone did) but I am neither young nor foreign, so that might mess up the sampling.

I don't think you were , we just had a different opinion that's all. Happens all the time on this forum.

I actually don't like Simon Pegg that much, but I do love Christopher Eccleston... but I digress.

[JohnnyForget]

Simon Pegg as the Doctor? No, I don't think so.

I'd like to see one of the following play the 12th Doctor:-

Jason Isaacs,
Eddie Marsan,
Stephen Fry
or
Mackenzie Crook.

[Sophie ~Oohie~]

Originally Posted by JohnnyForget

Simon Pegg as the Doctor? No, I don't think so.

I'd like to see one of the following play the 12th Doctor:-

Jason Isaacs,
Eddie Marsan,
Stephen Fry
or
Mackenzie Crook.

Not Stephen Fry, I can't watch anything with him in

[supernovadragon]

Originally Posted by nattoyaki

I cannot watch anything Pegg is in - he is the ultimate irritant to me, I would have to stop watching such is my discomfort whenever I see him

I'm sure he's reasonably intelligent and a nice guy but...

I've talked to a lot of people I know about him (because he's guested at/ruined a couple of Coldplay concerts I've been to) and while a lot think he's fantastic (!!) a lot feel like me. Interestingly, foreigners (and particularly younger foreign ladies) seem to love him for some reason.

I think he's this generation's Mr Bean.

He isn't this generation's Mr Bean - he's worse than that --- one trick pony....PLEASE he can NEVER be the Doctor, will stop watching if he ever was

[codename_47]

Can we please stop crediting the opinion of Coldplay fans as if that's in any way relevant or indeed worthy of existing in this world?

Even if Simon turned up and tripped over the drum kit it'd improve their gig tbh

Simon would make a great Doctor, like Tennant he's been a fan for years (writes about how he queued for hours to meet Tom Baker) and has the right combination of acting talent and fanboyish glee...

Sadly for the programme though the way his career is going, Doctor Who is...dare I say it,....a bit beneath him now.

Maybe he'll be the Doctor in that proposed stand alone movie that will definitely get made and isn't a pipe dream or anything, eh?

[johnnysaucepn]

Originally Posted by nattoyaki

- Zero British fans commenting that they enjoyed seeing him.

- A few older foreign fans saying it was cool and a great surprise.

- Loads of gushing foreign girls in their early to late twenties saying ZOMG it was absolutely incredible!!!!!1!!1

I'll think you'll find that the conclusions you have drawn have little to do with the criteria you have tested on, and more to do with the demographics you've selected.

Foreign girls in their early to late twenties will post that kind of reaction, because that is what excitable girls in their early to late twenties are wont to do.

The reactions of those who have not posted reactions is always as important as those that have.

This is the same principle that governs the argument against "I've spoken to all my friends at school about Matt Smith, and they all hate him, therefore he is the worst Doctor ever".