[Mr David Brent]

Finally an IN/OUT referendum looks inevitable. Even Euro-fanatics such as Peter Haine & Paddy Pantsdown admitted so on BBC's Newsnight.

Experts agree that a British OUT vote is now an odds on certainty, meaning that Britain would once again be free to govern, free to trade and free to police the borders. I dare say Britain could once again be a great nation once out of the clutches of this Franco-German dictatorship.

Surely no one still believes Britain is better off in the EU ?

[Mr David Brent]

First and foremost it would mean a massive saving to the exchequer. Secondly, foreigners could no longer waltz into Britain taking jobs and sponging off the state. That is surely a win win situation for British workers and all those desperate for an affordable home. Thirdly, the appalling Human Rights act could be scrapped emptying the prisons of foreign criminals/terrorists and putting the army of human rights lawyers on the dole.

There are just too many benefits to mention. All we need now is Scottish independence and the English are set for a prosperous future.

[jmclaugh]

It is inevitable but when it will happen is ano matter and it is very unlikely to happen until the Eurozone has sorted out what it is going to do and then see what that means for the UK.

[YoungAtHeart]

I am over the moon to hear this. Any news on when we will get this referendum?

I'm all for leaving and the sooner, the better.

There are too many pluses that crowed out the minuses for leaving as far as I am concerned.

[Mr David Brent]

Originally Posted by jmclaugh

It is inevitable but when it will happen is ano matter and it is very unlikely to happen until the Eurozone has sorted out what it is going to do and then see what that means for the UK.

The Eurozone is about to implode. I predict OUT within five years perhaps two. It is time for the political elites, the Lib / Lab / Con to admit they got it wrong on the EU and apologise to the British people who have suffered appalling discrimination and injustices. Euro-fanaticism is a cancer.

[Mr David Brent]

Originally Posted by YoungAtHeart

I am over the moon to hear this. Any news on when we will get this referendum?

I'm all for leaving and the sooner, the better.

There are too many pluses that crowed out the minuses for leaving as far as I am concerned.

It's not written in stone but most politicians agree it is inevitable. The Euro-fanantics say yes to a referendum but now is not the time, the OUT people say now is exactly the right time. I'm with Nigel Farage and Nick Griffin on this one. OUT the sooner the better.

[sensoria]

It will probably see the successfull company I work for sunk within a year. Thankfully we have moved offices into Europe so we would just probably relocate the whole thing there rather than be hamstrung by the little englander mentality. All it will do is make trading with Europe far more expensive and see a massive increase in burocracy for us trading in Europe.

I imagine a lot of other companies will have to do the same to be able to trade cost effectivly with other European companies.

[Mr David Brent]

Originally Posted by sensoria

It will probably see the successfull company I work for sunk within a year. Thankfully we have moved offices into Europe so we would just probably relocate the whole thing there rather than be hamstrung by the little englander mentality. All it will do is make trading with Europe far more expensive and see a massive increase in burocracy for us trading in Europe.

I imagine a lot of other companies will have to do the same to be able to trade cost effectivly with other European companies.

A price well worth paying. OUT.

[Sniffle774]

Originally Posted by Mr David Brent

It's not written in stone but most politicians agree it is inevitable. The Euro-fanantics say yes to a referendum but now is not the time, the OUT people say now is exactly the right time. I'm with Nigel Farage and Nick Griffin on this one. OUT the sooner the better.

Oh the irony of someone who supports Nick Gri££in crying about injustice and discrimination and democracy.

I dont think Britain will leave the EU...care to place a charitable wager on that Brenty ?

So is Nick going to lead the way and take his party of the EU is does he still like to take his place at the trough...of course he wont. He is filling his boots like the rest of them.

[sensoria]

Originally Posted by Mr David Brent

A price well worth paying. OUT.

What higher unemployment?

[jmclaugh]

Originally Posted by Mr David Brent

It is time for the political elites, the Lib / Lab / Con to admit they got it wrong and apologise to the British people who have suffered appalling discrimination and injustices.

They should own up to one thing and that also applies to nearly all European politicians. That thing is they ignored the democratic process and their electorates while they went ahead signing more and more treaties on the road to the great 'project'.

I have no desire to see one but if that is what the electorates of member states vote for then a single political and fiscal European state of those member states it will be. The process to date has been nothing less than democratically dishonest.

[Nick1966]

Originally Posted by Mr David Brent

Finally an IN/OUT referendum looks inevitable. Even Euro-fanatics such as Peter Haine & Paddy Pantsdown admitted so on BBC's Newsnight.

Experts agree that a British OUT vote is now an odds on certainty, meaning that Britain would once again be free to govern, free to trade and free to police the borders. I dare say Britain could once again be a great nation once out of the clutches of this Franco-German dictatorship.

Surely no one still believes Britain is better off in the EU ?

Exactly what should be the question on such an IN/OUT referendum ?

As a guide from previous referenda, the question should be framed so that voters chose two boxes to supply their answer "YES" or "NO".

[Mr David Brent]

Originally Posted by sensoria

What higher unemployment?

Yes. Once EU migrants are sent packing UK employers will be forced to pay a decent living wage. In the short term there may be transitional problems but long term there will be full employment, affordable housing and sustainable growth. Yes, unemployment as in the Thatcher years is a price well worth paying.

An EU referendum is coming, but when and on what terms?

[johnnybgoode83]

Originally Posted by Mr David Brent

Yes. Once EU migrants are sent packing UK employers will be forced to pay a decent living wage. In the short term there may be transitional problems but long term there will be full employment, affordable housing and sustainable growth. Yes, unemployment as in the Thatcher years is a price well worth paying.

An EU referendum is coming, but when and on what terms?

Now, I know you are talking bollocks. There will never be full employment and believing otherwise is delusional.

[Nick1966]

Originally Posted by Mr David Brent

Secondly, foreigners could no longer waltz into Britain taking jobs and sponging off the state. .

By 'foreigners' do you mean the ones who are white or speak English as their first language or both ?

[Nick1966]

Originally Posted by Mr David Brent

Yes. Once EU migrants are sent packing ]

In this total do you include Irish and Maltese who are white and speak English ?

[Kiko H Fan]

Originally Posted by Mr David Brent

Finally an IN/OUT referendum looks inevitable. Even Euro-fanatics such as Peter Haine & Paddy Pantsdown admitted so on BBC's Newsnight.

Experts agree that a British OUT vote is now an odds on certainty, meaning that Britain would once again be free to govern, free to trade and free to police the borders. I dare say Britain could once again be a great nation once out of the clutches of this Franco-German dictatorship.

Surely no one still believes Britain is better off in the EU ?

My company is a German one, it would leave the UK, putting myself and the thousands of others who work there, out of a job in one fell swoop.

Still, as long as you can have your steak and chips and not any of that filthy foreign muck, it's alright eh.

[ItJustMyOpinion]

Originally Posted by Mr David Brent

First and foremost it would mean a massive saving to the exchequer. Secondly, foreigners could no longer waltz into Britain taking jobs and sponging off the state. That is surely a win win situation for British workers and all those desperate for an affordable home. Thirdly, the appalling Human Rights act could be scrapped emptying the prisons of foreign criminals/terrorists and putting the army of human rights lawyers on the dole.

There are just too many benefits to mention. All we need now is Scottish independence and the English are set for a prosperous future.

Not unless the referendum is about the council of Europe and the European court of Human Rights as well. Mind you while were at it we might as well hold several referendums.

[Mr David Brent]

Originally Posted by johnnybgoode83

Now, I know you are talking bollocks. There will never be full employment and believing otherwise is delusional.

As long as there are open borders to the EU there will always be millions of NEETS and long term unemployed. By closing the borders, the flooding can be controlled and the problem solved with better education and training.

At present there is no incentive to train because greedy, self-serving employers prefer cheap, off-the-shelf migrant labour. If we want to reduce the welfare bill then closing the border is prerequisite. I agree that 100% employment is not achievable in such an overcrowded Island but if the population can be reduced by at least 50% then it's achievable.

[Mr David Brent]

Originally Posted by Kiko H Fan

My company is a German one, it would leave the UK, putting myself and the thousands of others who work there, out of a job in one fell swoop.

Still, as long as you can have your steak and chips and not any of that filthy foreign muck, it's alright eh.

See post #8

[Nick1966]

Originally Posted by ItJustMyOpinion

Not unless the referendum is about the council of Europe and the European court of Human Rights as well. Mind you while were at it we might as well hold several referendums.

Referendum

"Should the UK leave the World ?"

[Sniffle774]

Originally Posted by Mr David Brent

I agree that 100% employment is not achievable in such an overcrowded Island but if the population can be reduced by at least 50% then it's achievable.

So how do you propose to reduce the UK population by 30 million plus ? I mean, I assume you do have some idea or else your idea is just based on pure specualation so please, show the class your working out ?

[Mr David Brent]

Originally Posted by Nick1966

By 'foreigners' do you mean the ones who are white or speak English as their first language or both ?

Colour is not the main issue. This is about British jobs/housing for British workers. Anyone who received a British passport under New Labour should have citizenship reviewed and if earning below the national average should be sent home no questions asked. Harsh but fair.

[burneside]

Originally Posted by Nick1966

In this total do you include Irish and Maltese who are white and speak English ?

People from the Irish Republic have always had the right to live and work in this country, I expect that would continue after we leave the EU.

[johnnybgoode83]

Originally Posted by Mr David Brent

As long as there are open borders to the EU there will always be millions of NEETS and long term unemployed. By closing the borders, the flooding can be controlled and the problem solved with better education and training.

At present there is no incentive to train because greedy, self-serving employers prefer cheap, off-the-shelf migrant labour. If we want to reduce the welfare bill then closing the border is prerequisite. I agree that 100% employment is not achievable in such an overcrowded Island but if the population can be reduced by at least 50% then it's achievable.

What about outsourcing to cheap labour countries? Closing the borders are not going to stop that and, in fact, we may see more of it as businesses look to cut costs.

Also, what about the companies who depend on free trade to EU countries? Leaving the EU would increase costs on them.