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Old 05-08-2012, 02:39
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A little less self indulgence tonight between Dotun and guest on the jukebox please!

Not a promising start tonight.

Fast becoming a lesson in how to make a music discussion intensely un-stimulating.
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:26
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2 hours to put Heroes on this virtual jukebox tonight, and half the time they were barely talking about any music. What a drag.

Maybe we can have the exact vote numbers for these winners please?
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Old 12-08-2012, 16:45
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Here you are Earthling, the thread I began.
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Old 16-09-2012, 02:37
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Are we going to get another night of self indulgent chatter by the usual suspects on the virtual jukebox? Not to mention an in-accurate anecdote or two. Of course we are, it's obvious.
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Old 16-09-2012, 10:16
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Are we going to get another night of self indulgent chatter by the usual suspects on the virtual jukebox? Not to mention an in-accurate anecdote or two. Of course we are, it's obvious.
Then if you already know the answer, why bump up the thread for the sake of it?
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Old 16-09-2012, 16:39
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Then if you already know the answer, why bump up the thread for the sake of it?
Now what's the point of this comment above?

I could have added a question mark to the end of my initial comment to emphasise it as a questionable thought. Such nonsense about "bumping up" topics is written. The show was being broadcast at the time and I am entitled to attempt to garner any possible feedback that may be of interest by making the topic clearly relevant at the time on the radio forum that the said issue is going to air.
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Old 16-09-2012, 16:50
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Are we going to get another night of self indulgent chatter by the usual suspects on the virtual jukebox? Not to mention an in-accurate anecdote or two. Of course we are, it's obvious.
I heard this for the first time last night as I was up awake with toothache.

I wish they'd just play the songs, or at least say something relevant. Last night it seemed to be all "in-jokes".
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Old 30-09-2012, 03:03
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Here we go again! I haven't listened to the Virtual Jukebox, on purpose, for a couple of weeks, and just decided to tune in again, and just have to shake my head at the total mis-information and inaccurate nonsense being spoken about various artists, in this case Hank Mizell, who Dotun just said had a No1 hit, which he did not. Then goes on to mention Nina Simone and her re-issue of My Baby Just Cares For Me, muttering about her being No1 when it was never. I just cannot accept such casual and almost continual nonsense being aired as fact any more. Does he think people don't know he's spouting a lot of factually dubious rubbish half the time? Enough is enough. If you are going to do a show about music for 2 hours each week, at least do some research and get the facts right. The whole thing now sounds made up on the hoof with no research or pre-production whatsoever. A shocking state of affairs even at 3 in the morning. BBC cutbacks radio at its worst.

I want to listen but have turned it back off. Who knows how many more errors will be made before the night is out. I'm not going to find out. This weekly charade would try the patience of a saint. And they got rid of a weekly film phone in with Dave Aldridge for this?
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Old 01-10-2012, 19:52
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I caught a bit of this program the other night when Stevie Wonder was mentioned, I mistakenly thought this should be interesting being a Stevie fan. What did he play none other than “I Just Called to Say I Love You”. Which I would have thought would be universally acknowledged as his worst record by far.
Couldn't agree more, “I Just Called to Say I Love You” was by far Stevie's worst single. Not unusual though, Billy Joel is an amazing songwriter imo, 'Uptown Girl' his biggest selling single: absolute garbage
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Old 01-10-2012, 20:11
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Couldn't agree more, “I Just Called to Say I Love You” was by far Stevie's worst single. Not unusual though, Billy Joel is an amazing songwriter imo, 'Uptown Girl' his biggest selling single: absolute garbage
That's a bit harsh isn't it. Now if you were talking about the vile Westlife cover of the song I would be in total agreement. Regarding Stevie Wonder, no sooner had he had the biggest hit of his career after almost 20 years, then his hits almost immediately dried up afterwards within the year. One of his best I would judge to be Lately.
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Old 01-10-2012, 20:37
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That's a bit harsh isn't it. Now if you were talking about the vile Westlife cover of the song I would be in total agreement. Regarding Stevie Wonder, no sooner had he had the biggest hit of his career after almost 20 years, then his hits almost immediately dried up afterwards within the year. One of his best I would judge to be Lately.
'Lately' is a lovely song. 'Master Blaster' is a personal fav. Compare 'Uptown Girl' to 'Allentown' or 'All About Soul', different class
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Old 01-10-2012, 20:48
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'Lately' is a lovely song. 'Master Blaster' is a personal fav. Compare 'Uptown Girl' to 'Allentown' or 'All About Soul', different class
Off topic for this thread that I started I know, but noticed your Human Zoo name and checked your profile. Same age, and former lover of Tommy's Human Zoo on Sunday nights on Talksport between 2000 and 2002 I see. Your take on radio matches mine there!
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Old 01-10-2012, 21:16
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Off topic for this thread that I started I know, but noticed your Human Zoo name and checked your profile. Same age, and former lover of Tommy's Human Zoo on Sunday nights on Talksport between 2000 and 2002 I see. Your take on radio matches mine there!
I'm a massive Boyd fan, 'The Wonderful Hour' and 'Human Zoo', nothing like that around at the minute. So many stations around now, but so few worth listening to. Bit like tv really.
I quite like the Virtual Jukebox, its Dotun Adebayo that makes it for me.
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Old 01-10-2012, 21:32
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I'm a massive Boyd fan, 'The Wonderful Hour' and 'Human Zoo', nothing like that around at the minute. So many stations around now, but so few worth listening to. Bit like tv really.
I quite like the Virtual Jukebox, its Dotun Adebayo that makes it for me.
How long have you been listening to Virtual Jukebox? Nearly every one of its 100 weeks so far? It was a good listen at the start, but I'm afraid it has become, well, just read some of my earlier posts! Some winners get 2 votes, Dotun answered that from this thread on air one night.
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Old 01-10-2012, 21:37
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How long have you been listening to Virtual Jukebox? Nearly every one of its 100 weeks so far? It was a good listen at the start, but I'm afraid it has become, well, just read some of my earlier posts! Some winners get 2 votes, Dotun answered that from this thread on air one night.
To be honest I don't listen to it every week, I don't take it too seriously though and I think you are right, He just makes the result up as He goes along
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Old 01-10-2012, 21:42
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As for Tommy Boyd, he's nearly 60 soon isn't he? Damn that dump button he forgot to use on Sunday night, 31st March 2002 on Talksport.
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Old 10-03-2013, 02:24
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If anyone fancies giving Radio 5 Lives Virtual Jukebox a listen from 2.30am onwards and putting an opinion across then I'd like to hear it.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:19
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I caught a little bit of it last night, just the beginning when he played 'Running Up that Hill'. Good song but during the night if I'm still awake I like to listen to speech radio, not music.

I really do think that the feature should be dropped, it's a two hour segment of his programme that like the Native New Yorkers slot which precedes it just sounds tired and goes nowhere. The Virtual Jukebox has been running for two years now and by the way Dotun was talking a couple of months ago it's going to be running for another two years or so.

I realise that at the weekend there is more scope for running longer features as there's less happening around the world to do the smaller segment features that run during the week but as a result of this it is more important to keep the programme sounding fresh and not to keep running the same features week in, week out for several years and for what seems increasingly longer times (The VJ used to be an hour long if I recall and now it's 2 hours etc).
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:22
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Filling airtime with virtually no resources, after BBC cuts, is going to hit somewhere. And I'm afraid the graveyard shift is no exception.
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:32
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Filling airtime with virtually no resources, after BBC cuts, is going to hit somewhere. And I'm afraid the graveyard shift is no exception.
That is going to be a problem and I imagine that UAN is ran on very limited resources. One way around it is to have alternating features eg the Virtual Jukebox one week, a film reviews feature the next week etc. It's just at the moment it seems like a never ending set of the same features.
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Old 10-03-2013, 16:55
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I caught a little bit of it last night, just the beginning when he played 'Running Up that Hill'. Good song but during the night if I'm still awake I like to listen to speech radio, not music.

I really do think that the feature should be dropped, it's a two hour segment of his programme that like the Native New Yorkers slot which precedes it just sounds tired and goes nowhere. The Virtual Jukebox has been running for two years now and by the way Dotun was talking a couple of months ago it's going to be running for another two years or so.

I realise that at the weekend there is more scope for running longer features as there's less happening around the world to do the smaller segment features that run during the week but as a result of this it is more important to keep the programme sounding fresh and not to keep running the same features week in, week out for several years and for what seems increasingly longer times (The VJ used to be an hour long if I recall and now it's 2 hours etc).
Robbie do you remember when it began it was known as the Virtual iPod? Someone clearly got their knuckles rapped over that one! I just cannot believe how a subject that I am hugely interested in, and looked forward to at the beginning, can be turned into something that actively makes me turn off now. That takes some doing but it's happened. Plus the fact that the end result is "virtually" meaningless in itself. Same guests, same callers, with the same music tastes, and 2 votes got a song onto this list one time. Literally it is going around and around like an old vinyl 45 in ever decreasing circles.

Like Mapperley said, we all know the real under-current to it. CUTS, CUTS, CUTS. But even with limited resources, and in the weekend graveyard slot there is still plenty of opportunity for a little more use of imagination and creativity at no extra cost surely? You are so right that it ought if anything to alternate with a different discussion like the film one they used to have with Dave Aldridge. Now I'm not a great film buff, rarely watch many all the way through, yet I enjoyed listening to him and those discussions. So a subject I was not fussed about I liked, and a subject I love I now actively dislike! Great trick that one is.

As for the New Yorkers, heck I know the song goes "New York, New York, so good they named it twice" but not 200+ times please. The United States Of America is a huge place, how about another place over there, or another country maybe.

Total self indulgence. Early hours Sunday can barely feel like working to Dotun Adebayo, more like a chat with the mates with a knowingly open mike to the mostly sleeping nation.
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Old 10-03-2013, 18:50
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I remember it being called the Virtual iPod. As you suggest it is likely that the title change was due to pressure being brought to bear on the programme as it was effectively free advertising.

As for the Native New Yorker slot, I think it was originally given that title because of the Gabby Cabby (Peter Franklin) feature which was originally a large part of the feature. Since he left I've not found that part of the show interesting at all. There's little left for them to talk about as it's all been covered.
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Old 11-03-2013, 00:03
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The previous week's VJ was interesting as Dotun Addebayo got a public slap in the face as well as egg on it.

Early on a caller requested Kate Bush and Running Up That Hill. Dotun played about the first 20 seconds of it then said 'I think we've heard enough of Kate Bush, thank you," and criticised her. His astonished guest reviewer Jon Wingate then replied, 'You really don't like Kate Bush?' Dotun said ' I just don't get her appeal'. This prompted a slew of angry texts berating him. He even read a few of them out. After continuing to receive more scathing texts, Dotun finally admitted defeat and retracted his opinion on Kate Bush, claiming he wasn't being serious about the remarks he made earlier Like hell, he wasn't.

Needless to say that track beat all the others that were played making it onto the VJ.
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Old 11-03-2013, 01:29
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The previous week's VJ was interesting as Dotun Addebayo got a public slap in the face as well as egg on it.

Early on a caller requested Kate Bush and Running Up That Hill. Dotun played about the first 20 seconds of it then said 'I think we've heard enough of Kate Bush, thank you," and criticised her. His astonished guest reviewer Jon Wingate then replied, 'You really don't like Kate Bush?' Dotun said ' I just don't get her appeal'. This prompted a slew of angry texts berating him. He even read a few of them out. After continuing to receive more scathing texts, Dotun finally admitted defeat and retracted his opinion on Kate Bush, claiming he wasn't being serious about the remarks he made earlier Like hell, he wasn't.

Needless to say that track beat all the others that were played making it onto the VJ.
Astonishing. I never heard it. For me it became clear that much as it seemed like a democratic kind of discussion, it was being used by Dotun mostly as a tool to endlessly provide his own anecdotes, sometimes dubious sounding to me, and push his own personal music tastes to the fore. Insofar as Kate Bush is concerned, if he really thought that about her, then why backtrack on it because of a few texts and e-mail. He's entitled to that view if he wants, but I'd strongly dis-agree, and he has been known to play entire songs almost, so 20 seconds was a raw deal.

To me, he sounds like he doesn't really know as much about music as he'd like us to think he does, except maybe for his own particular tastes that lead to the namedropping stories.

So what is this eternal weekend virtual jukebox actually achieving, or meaning in the end? Not a lot. An utterly random and somewhat weird collection of songs in the end that a couple of night owls took years to compile, if what Robbie says and they go for another 2 years, that would be 4 years. Infact I listened to what I knew was going to be the 100th and thought final addition to the list and he even suggested going to 1,000! So by my reckoning that makes around another 17 years from now, so he must have a strong constitution not to mention a firm belief in his own job security for that matter! Yes, I know he was likely joking.

But cut the 2 hours a week, and just open a music book, stick a pin in it and that's the chosen tune, quick and easy, and as relevant.
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Old 11-03-2013, 01:35
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I love music but not a fan of music on speech radio. Especially late at night when I'm trying to get to sleep.

The worst is the World Music thing he does. Loads of wailing, bongos and trumpets (normally from Mozambique) just when you're nodding off
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