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Old 05-11-2012, 23:13
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I agree that Macs did look quite vulernable and I was glad that he turned Gaynor down.

According to the spoilers Macs & Sioned split up dont they....does she know that what she said to him was what sent him running into Gaynor's arms in the first place & that he was in a really bad head space at the time or maybe that is why she didnt dump him straight away?

How did she find out anyway!?
Sioned found out when she saw Gaynor kiss Macs at her wedding to Hwyel.

Sioned doesn't know what is going on with Macs because he won't talk about it. That's what drove her over the edge in the first place. Macs didn't tell her about the dictaphone, he didn't tell anyone in his family why Scott left. She found out about it because Gaynor told her. They had an arguement about why Macs didn't want to go to the police, and she said what she did out of frustration.

I think Sioned was wrong to say what she did, but she wasn't wrong to tell him to go to the police and deal with his problems. I think I would be at the end of my rope with Macs and his refusal to deal with his problems.
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Old 05-11-2012, 23:17
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Sioned found out when she saw Gaynor kiss Macs at her wedding to Hwyel.

Sioned doesn't know what is going on with Macs because he won't talk about it. That's what drove her over the edge in the first place. Macs didn't tell her about the dictaphone, he didn't tell anyone in his family why Scott left. She found out about it because Gaynor told her. They had an arguement about why Macs didn't want to go to the police, and she said what she did out of frustration.

I think Sioned was wrong to say what she did, but she wasn't wrong to tell him to go to the police and deal with his problems. I think I would be at the end of my rope with Macs and his refusal to deal with his problems.
Yeah, he really does need to do something as he still hasnt had therapy as I think he went to Gaynor instead but that ended up in sex!

Like the disussions on here though I do hope Macs and Gethins storys tie in! That would be realistic too and not to have the dictaphone that Moc has to be forgotten!
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Old 05-11-2012, 23:28
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Yeah, he really does need to do something as he still hasnt had therapy as I think he went to Gaynor instead but that ended up in sex!

Like the disussions on here though I do hope Macs and Gethins storys tie in! That would be realistic too and not to have the dictaphone that Moc has to be forgotten!
Yeh the trauma side of it has been forgotten - even Scott mentioned it (quite horribly) when taunting Sion that time.

I always knew that it was too strange for Macs giving the dictaphone to Moc for it to just be a non-story. Can't wait to see what happens. I agree about the writing too - it's been brilliant recently.
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Old 05-11-2012, 23:39
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Yeh the trauma side of it has been forgotten - even Scott mentioned it (quite horribly) when taunting Sion that time.

I always knew that it was too strange for Macs giving the dictaphone to Moc for it to just be a non-story. Can't wait to see what happens. I agree about the writing too - it's been brilliant recently.
That's right what Scott said to Sion is going to come back now. I've always thought Macs can't go to the police because he can't bear to feel the way Gethin's feeling right now. That's what scares him I think, not other people knowing.
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Old 06-11-2012, 00:05
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Yeh. Although, have we ever seen how Macs is truely feeling? We've never seen him talk to Sioned about it and he said to her that he didn't want to talk about ever again.
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Old 06-11-2012, 00:14
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Yeh. Although, have we ever seen how Macs is truely feeling? We've never seen him talk to Sioned about it and he said to her that he didn't want to talk about ever again.
No we haven't. I was just talking about trauma in general, trauma memories are different because you relive the event instead of just remembering it. Its a myth that you will feel better when you first start talking about something like a rape you've kept bottled up. A person will feel worse before they start feeling better.

Macs would be like anyone else in that situation.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:43
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No we haven't. I was just talking about trauma in general, trauma memories are different because you relive the event instead of just remembering it. Its a myth that you will feel better when you first start talking about something like a rape you've kept bottled up. A person will feel worse before they start feeling better.

Macs would be like anyone else in that situation.
I agree. At least we saw a different Macs last night - I was getting worried that he might be turning very selfish
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:55
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I agree. At least we saw a different Macs last night - I was getting worried that he might be turning very selfish

How do you mean exactly? Selfish towards Sioned?
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:59
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How do you mean exactly? Selfish towards Sioned?
Yeh and not caring about his relationship
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Old 06-11-2012, 16:24
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I agree. At least we saw a different Macs last night - I was getting worried that he might be turning very selfish
Yes, I do see Macs as a person who could cheat. But the way that affair with Gaynor happened and the way Macs was talking about Gaynor was so far off from reality. There is no way that situation was actually fun or romantic. How could a discussion about your rapist be romantic?
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Old 06-11-2012, 18:10
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Looks like I have a lot to plough through i'm still catching up from August missed a few weeks but up to where sion returns and leaving brit.
Missed the week before so not sure what happened between them all
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Old 06-11-2012, 18:25
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Looks like I have a lot to plough through i'm still catching up from August missed a few weeks but up to where sion returns and leaving brit.
Missed the week before so not sure what happened between them all
I tried to summarize the last few months at #958. But let us know if you have a specific question
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Old 06-11-2012, 18:26
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The last 2 weeks have kind of changed the whole show - a lot of stuff has moved on since the summer and it's like it's new.
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Old 06-11-2012, 18:40
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The last 2 weeks have kind of changed the whole show - a lot of stuff has moved on since the summer and it's like it's new.
Yeah the fire storyline was a big mess and worse than that boring and confusing. Glad they've moved on.
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Old 06-11-2012, 19:40
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Yeah the fire storyline was a big mess and worse than that boring and confusing. Glad they've moved on.
Definately
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Old 06-11-2012, 20:01
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Awwww bless Sioned taking off her engagement ring!!

That was the most heartfelt converstation Macs and Sioned have ever had. What brilliant writing and well acted!
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Old 06-11-2012, 20:59
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Awwww bless Sioned taking off her engagement ring!!

That was the most heartfelt converstation Macs and Sioned have ever had. What brilliant writing and well acted!
Yeah, what a great episode. Gaynor is such a horrible cow, I can't believe that after last night Macs still wants her. He can't see what an abusive situation he is in. Denial must be a very strong emotion.

PYC is going from strength to strength lately.
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Old 06-11-2012, 21:17
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Yeah, what a great episode. Gaynor is such a horrible cow, I can't believe that after last night Macs still wants her. He can't see what an abusive situation he is in. Denial must be a very strong emotion.

PYC is going from strength to strength lately.
I know I thought Macs had come to his senses about Gaynor but it turns out he just wanted to stop cheating on Sioned but the whole I want you to myself.....

Its like in Friends with the "ick factor" shes not only his boss, twice his age, married but also the mother of the girl he dated & blackmailed her for sex who was also the same girl that was engaged to his rapist!!! Ick, ick ick!!!
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Old 06-11-2012, 21:22
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I know I thought Macs had come to his senses about Gaynor but it turns out he just wanted to stop cheating on Sioned but the whole I want you to myself.....

Its like in Friends with the "ick factor" shes not only his boss, twice his age, married but also the mother of the girl he dated & blackmailed her for sex who was also the same girl that was engaged to his rapist!!! Ick, ick ick!!!
And she doesn't actually want him as anything more than a toy like he said last night.

I was disturbed by Gaynor last night, it felt like she was trying to push sex on him. There were some clearly non-consensual overtones.

He just must not be able to bring himself to see them.
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Old 06-11-2012, 21:31
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What is Macs doing? I'm glad he and Sioned had that chat. It will be interesting what happens now if Sioned isn't going to move out - maybe them not being a couple will make them realise that they do want to be together?

It was interesting that Macs said that Gaynor made him feel like a man again...this is all so wrong but at least we can understand it all a bit more?

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Old 06-11-2012, 21:35
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What is Macs doing? I'm glad he and Sioned had that chat. It will be interesting what happens now if Sioned isn't going to move out - maybe them not being a couple will make them realise that they do want to be together?

It was interesting that Macs said that Gaynor made him feel like a man again...this is all so wrong but at least we can understand it all a bit more?

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Is that spoiler out of the blue then....was there any indication that had happened!?

Also that must have been hard for Sioned to hear....that having sex with a woman twice his age made him feel like a man again and because of what Sioned said about him not being a real man!???
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Old 06-11-2012, 21:38
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What is Macs doing? I'm glad he and Sioned had that chat. It will be interesting what happens now if Sioned isn't going to move out - maybe them not being a couple will make them realise that they do want to be together?
He must really need to believe that if he sleeps with a woman, they are going be in a relationship.

Because last night when Gaynor was pushing the alcohol on him and pushed him against the wall with the I'm not asking stuff. I saw Scott in all that- that looked forced. I thought he was getting it-- its like he turned a switch and went back to denial.

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Old 06-11-2012, 21:43
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It was interesting that Macs said that Gaynor made him feel like a man again...this is all so wrong but at least we can understand it all a bit more?
That I kind of get, but Gaynor's behavior afterwards, by the time she slept with Macs before her wedding she was clearly just using him.

Gaynor treats Macs as much more of a child than Sioned ever would.
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Old 06-11-2012, 21:59
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Is that spoiler out of the blue then....was there any indication that had happened!?
Completely. I am not sure what to make of that spoiler. Its unusual for the producers to give away an entire storyline in a spoiler like that.
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Old 06-11-2012, 22:21
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That spoiler is completely out of the blue, there's never been any indication about anything like that
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