[Gormond]

Originally Posted by Voynich

I quite fancy this. Much more portable than the ipad which I like . I really wanted a Kindle Fire but seems like Amazon have missed the boat now. Good price too.

I wouldn't write off amazon, as the kindle 2 is expected in July.

[Arkudos]

Yeah, they're prepping the UK Amazon AppStore so no doubt the Kindle Fire 2 will be UK bound.

[alan1302]

Originally Posted by Gormond

I wouldn't write off amazon, as the kindle 2 is expected in July.

Will be interesting to see what Amazon brings out - best to wait and see at the moment

[Esot-eric]

I'm still not sure what use a tablet actually has, but at this price maybe i'll pick one up to find out.

[ASIFZED]

I'm a bit dumb on cloud storage stuff, so can someone explain. If you only have say, 16gb to hold stuff on the Nexus or similar device and, say you have another 10 gigs of extra music, movies etc 'in the cloud'.. then does that mean you MUST be connected to the Internet (Wifi / 3g) to access to listen / watch the additional content in the cloud? So if you were stuck on the underground, you would be limited to what is on the local internal storage on the tablet?

Is that right? Thanks.

[TheCableGuy]

Yep that sounds right to me.

Apps like spotify allow you to stream music from Blythe net, but also allow you to download music locally to your device incase you want to listen offline.

[alanwarwic]

Originally Posted by Gormond

My point was it referred to the tegra 3 as if it was a processor and the GPU was seperate

It reads that way but it ain't too far off the mark.
My point is that the DM actually prints much of the detail it is given.

I wonder if the Tegra marketing trick equates to 6 traditional GPU cores.

None of them have picked up on the 5th but low power CPU core Tegra is meant to have.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

It reads that way but it ain't too far off the mark.
My point is that the DM actually prints much of the detail it is given.

I wonder if the Tegra marketing trick equates to 6 traditional GPU cores.

None of them have picked up on the 5th but low power CPU core Tegra is meant to have.

The thing that lets the Tegra 3 down is the GPU but it makes up for it in the CPU. Where as the Apple A5x has a far superior GPU but is let down by its CPU.

Sony seemed to have used the best of both for their PS Vita which out preforms the Tegra 3 and Apple A5x.

[paulbrock]

Originally Posted by ASIFZED

I'm a bit dumb on cloud storage stuff, so can someone explain. If you only have say, 16gb to hold stuff on the Nexus or similar device and, say you have another 10 gigs of extra music, movies etc 'in the cloud'.. then does that mean you MUST be connected to the Internet (Wifi / 3g) to access to listen / watch the additional content in the cloud? So if you were stuck on the underground, you would be limited to what is on the local internal storage on the tablet?

Is that right? Thanks.

yes but you can download stuff locally from the cloud as often as you like. so the 16gb, in theory, can be constantly changing.

ps the underground is rolling out wifi right now, on platforms at least.

[c4rv]

Originally Posted by ASIFZED

I'm a bit dumb on cloud storage stuff, so can someone explain. If you only have say, 16gb to hold stuff on the Nexus or similar device and, say you have another 10 gigs of extra music, movies etc 'in the cloud'.. then does that mean you MUST be connected to the Internet (Wifi / 3g) to access to listen / watch the additional content in the cloud? So if you were stuck on the underground, you would be limited to what is on the local internal storage on the tablet?

Is that right? Thanks.

basically yes, you would need to copy the media to local storage if you wish to access it off-line. There are plenty of tools for keeping cloud and local data in sync or partially in sync if you want to. Also don't forget that you can use 3g to access online storage.

Another aspect of cloud is in applications. There are more and more online application, e.g. office365 where the application is running remotely and you just use a web browser for accessing the application. Also this is an area where gaming is starting to take off. No need for high end hardware in you device, run the game on a remote server but control from local device. Have a look at Steam gaming which is coming to tablets soon.

[Dai13371]

Originally Posted by Gormond

It's full of the usual Nonsence you expect from the DM.



They do know this is an SoC right?

Better off reading actual tech sites.

Its not the article which bothers me, its the inevitable flame war that will erupt with the Apple fans and Android fans in the comments section. In the first comment, Jellybean has already been rubbished.

[flagpole]

i'm giving serious consideration to buying one. it's only £159. it's a shame it doesn't have micro sd.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by flagpole

i'm giving serious consideration to buying one. it's only £159. it's a shame it doesn't have micro sd.

At that price point there is very little to complain about as the 16GB version is half the price of a 16GB iPad 3 all be it with a smaller screen.

[flagpole]

Originally Posted by Gormond

At that price point there is very little to complain about as the 16GB version is half the price of a 16GB iPad 3 all be it with a smaller screen.

there is something to complain about. it doesn't have micro sd. i just complained about it. you read it.

the screen is half the size of the ipad 3, a 3rd the resolution, no rear facing camera. etc

it's not a direct competitor to the iPad it is much more closely related to the kindle fire and it is similarly priced. frankly a lot of things are half the price of apple products, it does not mean that you have to just buy them and be thankful.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by flagpole

there is something to complain about. it doesn't have micro sd. i just complained about it. you read it.

the screen is half the size of the ipad 3, a 3rd the resolution, no rear facing camera. etc

it's not a direct competitor to the iPad it is much more closely related to the kindle fire and it is similarly priced. frankly a lot of things are half the price of apple products, it does not mean that you have to just buy them and be thankful.

My point was a Tegra 3 tablet with a 7 inch 220DPI is a steal for £159 with or without an SD slot. Yes the resolution is less but the screen is 3 inches smaller, it's the DPI that matters.

The more things like SD card slot and front facing camera the more the cost will increase, you have to draw the line somewhere.

Of coarse its competing against the iPad especially in the UK, even Google kept mentioning how much more portable and lighter it is than other tablets.

There is no perfect size for a tablet, Google could have easily made a 10 inch tablet but they evidently think the increased portability of a 7 inch is better.

[alanwarwic]

Originally Posted by Gormond

The thing that lets the Tegra 3 down is the GPU but it makes up for it in the CPU.

I would think the lower resolution Google tablet makes things more equal.
I'm not sure how the CPU compares in clock speed but the double CPU core count and that screen gives leeway for a whole new bunch of tricks.

DPI obviously matters both ways.

[paulbrock]

Originally Posted by flagpole

t no rear facing camera. etc

GOOD! Someone not encouraging tablet owners to act like dicks when they've got a better camera on their phones.

(pet hate )

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by paulbrock

GOOD! Someone not encouraging tablet owners to act like dicks when they've got a better camera on their phones.

(pet hate )

Its a strange one isn't it, I have never used the camera on my iPad 2 except to test it out when I first got it, for me its such a pointless addition.

[paulbrock]

Originally Posted by Gormond

There is no perfect size for a tablet, Google could have easily made a 10 inch tablet but they evidently think the increased portability of a 7 inch is better.

Plus they can do it cheaper of course

I was looking at 10 incher's but was pretty swayed by their launch vid. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMQdfGFK5XQ

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by paulbrock

Plus they can do it cheaper of course

I was looking at 10 incher's but was pretty swayed by their launch vid. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMQdfGFK5XQ

Again they keep mentioning the advantage of its size.

It fits in your hand, it doesn't tire your arm out

Clearly another jab at Apple there as the iPad doesn't fit in your hand and at 650g it certainly does tire your arm out after a while.

It's interesting that MS is going the oposite way with a tablet thats bigger (and possibly more expensive) than an iPad.

[paulbrock]

Originally Posted by Gormond

Again they keep mentioning the advantage of its size.

yeah they got me! A tablet for me was always a laptop replacement, and I still think I may well go for a Transformer at some point. But having something the size of the Kindle is ideal for commuting, or just carrying in your bag. They did a good job of making the iPad (and other 10"ers) seem unwieldy in comparison.

[Gormond]

Originally Posted by paulbrock

yeah they got me! A tablet for me was always a laptop replacement, and I still think I may well go for a Transformer at some point. But having something the size of the Kindle is ideal for commuting, or just carrying in your bag. They did a good job of making the iPad (and other 10"ers) seem unwieldy in comparison.

I agree I tend to use the iPad while sitting on the sofa and watching TV as its much more convenient than a laptop.

I dont really take it out and about unless im in the car as its unwieldy as you say where as I take my Kindle with me all the time.

I am starting to see more advantages than disadvantages with the smaller size.

[flagpole]

the reason why the micro sd slot bothers me is that if you want more storage you have to pay an extra $50 for the 16GB version. well over cost.

i can buy a micro sd card reader delivered from china for $0.99 so it doesn't actually really keep costs down so much as force the up sell.

[flagpole]

Originally Posted by Gormond

My point was a Tegra 3 tablet with a 7 inch 220DPI is a steal for £159 with or without an SD slot. Yes the resolution is less but the screen is 3 inches smaller, it's the DPI that matters.

i'm glad you know what i want in a tablet. it's the DPI that matters is it? so 640x480 1" tab good. and my 50" 1080p plasma may as well go in the bin. in no sense is it the dpi that counts.

The more things like SD card slot and front facing camera the more the cost will increase, you have to draw the line somewhere.

Of coarse its competing against the iPad especially in the UK, even Google kept mentioning how much more portable and lighter it is than other tablets.

There is no perfect size for a tablet, Google could have easily made a 10 inch tablet but they evidently think the increased portability of a 7 inch is better.

nonsense. they didn't build the tablet at 7" because of it's increased portability. the picked the price point and built to it.

[Gormond]

Its interesting reading articles like http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Goo...ice,16148.html going on about how much more we will be paying than the US.

I seem to read stuff like this every time a new popular product is launched, where they seem to forget (or choose to ignore) the fact that items in the UK already have sales tax added where as items in the USA do not as it differs state to state.

$200 is what they pay in the US which is £128 excluding Tax. Once you add our tax rate of 20% that becomes £153.60 so at £159 we aren't really getting ripped off are we?