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Old 27-06-2012, 21:48
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This football is so dull (with Martin Keown not exactly adding sparkle) that News At Ten might actually benefit from it over running
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Old 27-06-2012, 21:55
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A couple of days late with the new thread I think - it's supposed to happen during eagerly awaited ratings news.
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Old 27-06-2012, 22:08
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News at Ten might benefit? Not sure about that.

The game is heading towards penalties and as you might recall from Sunday's game it guarantees a good peak and a very healthy primetime share win with all the extended play...
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Old 27-06-2012, 22:11
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Here's the archive which had temporarily gone AWOL: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...19&postcount=2
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Old 27-06-2012, 22:23
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Old 27-06-2012, 22:57
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Was close

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Old 27-06-2012, 23:10
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Originally Posted by SamuelW
What is the record for most people watching a television programme past midnight? Could the Olympic Opening Ceremony beat it?
The 1985 World Snooker Championship final on BBC2 had a peak of 18.5 million watching as Dennis Taylor beat Steve Davis 18-17, on the final black, at 12.19am on the morning of Monday 29 April 1985. It was a record after-midnight peak on any UK channel and a record BBC2 peak for any time. If that first record still stands, I think it could well be broken by the Olympics Opening Ceremony.
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Old 27-06-2012, 23:12
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The highest rated show after midnight was the 1985 World Snooker Championship final which apparently had 18.5 millon watching the finish at 12.19am on Monday 29th April 1985.

Edit: beaten to it. I don't think the Olympic opening will rate that high after midnight.
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Old 27-06-2012, 23:13
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Old 27-06-2012, 23:17
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I am mildly curious if they're really going to play the Sex Pistols God Save the Queen, presumably in front of the real Queen. That might be worth watching!
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Old 28-06-2012, 03:18
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ITV have unveiled the 4 studios they have built overlooking Olympic Park. They've put them on top of Westfield.

http://www.itv.com/news/london/2012-...-olympic-park/

Home to 70 journalists, four studios will house ITV News, London Tonight, ITV Regional News teams and ITN International.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Daybreak use the ITV News studio as well. London Tonight will be hosted from the park each night and I expect ITV News probably will too.

And just to clarify from yesterday's post - the BBC will be inside the Olympic Park (reusing the World Cup 2010 studio) for BBC1/3 coverage and BBC News at Ten will hosted from a studio on top of an apartment building overlooking the park.
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Old 28-06-2012, 03:24
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Meanwhile NBC Universal are accepting they will probably make a loss on London 2012...

"We're not predicting that we will necessarily be profitable," Lazarus said of the London Games.
David Joyce, a media analyst with Miller Tabak & Co., has predicted that NBCUniversal could lose more than $100 million on the London Games.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,6530534.story

The NBC national network has sold $950 million in advertising for the London games, and Lazarus said those national ad sales could reach $1 billion. The comparable number for Beijing was $850 million. NBC-owned local stations are expected to generate an additional $150 million to $175 million in advertising for the London games. NBC paid about $1.2 billion for the rights to the 2012 Olympics, and coverage of them could cost $150 million to produce. Based on these numbers, that would mean a loss of about of $250 million.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/...#storylink=cpy
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Old 28-06-2012, 04:05
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The first teaser trailer for the BBC London 2012 coverage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxqgiUh1Gbc

And just to suppliment the above - the BBC and Al Jazerra are broadcasting from flats which have been converted into studios here:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Denn...8.47,,0,-22.52

BBC News Channel, BBC World and BBC News on BBC1 will all be hosted from these studios (with BBC World relocating for 30 minutes to allow BBC London to use their studio).

NBC will have two huge indoor studios in the IBC and an outdoor location, possibly for The Today Show in the park, at Park Live East.

The main BBC studios will be next to McDonalds at World Square, the other international broadcasters requiring their own studios closeby.
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Old 28-06-2012, 04:31
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Olympic rights are really expensive especially when you consider NBC won't be able to air many if any events live which is probably why they they'll make a loss. The 2016 Olympics in Rio will likely make them profit as it's in a similar time zone to America.
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Old 28-06-2012, 05:20
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Olympic rights are really expensive especially when you consider NBC won't be able to air many if any events live which is probably why they they'll make a loss. The 2016 Olympics in Rio will likely make them profit as it's in a similar time zone to America.
Maybe not live in primetime, but they will have live coverage all day and then primetime is always when they recap the biggest stories of the day anyway, so in some ways it works out quite well for them. They should be able to create a buzz during the day and direct everyone towards NBC primetime to see all the big stuff.

It's just the cost of the rights that's the issue. NBC paid less for Beijing, but spent $2bn on Vancouver/London and will lose money on both.

They reckon they will make money on the next four, but I can't really see how given that they have spent even more.

The value is in establishing NBC Sports Network to rival ESPN, being able to call themselves an Olympic Broadcaster, stopping another broadcaster getting them and providing a big boost straight into their fall line-up. But by the looks of it, when all things are considered, they would be quite happy just to break even on the Olympics, so they would effectively cost them nothing.
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Old 28-06-2012, 06:16
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A BBC spokesman said: “We can confirm that a third series of The Magicians will not be commissioned by the BBC.”

ITV also confirmed that its Jonathan Ross-fronted magic show Penn & Teller: Fool Us won’t return.

Despite the lack of success with magic on the other channels, Channel 4 is having a go with The Lab, billed as a “magic based entertainment show” featuring “awe inspiring tricks and high impact stunts”.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...g-The-Lab.html

A shame, Penn and Teller: Fools Us was a great show, it just failed to find an audience for some reason.
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Old 28-06-2012, 08:04
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NBC messed around with the Sydney Olympics and time-delayed it so much results were appearing in newspapers before they were shown on NBC
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Old 28-06-2012, 08:20
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ITV have unveiled the 4 studios they have built overlooking Olympic Park. They've put them on top of Westfield.

http://www.itv.com/news/london/2012-...-olympic-park/

Home to 70 journalists, four studios will house ITV News, London Tonight, ITV Regional News teams and ITN International....
Looks like ITV is definitely back in "money to burn" good times then, as opposed to the "cap in hand" near-bankrupt organisation of just a few years back.

Seems a big effort to go to for an event your big rivals are covering exclusively and you can only talk about, and look on from the outside?

The first teaser trailer for the BBC London 2012 coverage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxqgiUh1Gbc.
Is that it?

A "slow burner" of a campaign then?
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Old 28-06-2012, 08:24
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They'll recover quite a bit of money from foreign broadcasters paying to use their facilities. ITV was once famously described as ''a licence to print money'' by Lord Thomson of STV. Perhaps we're not quite back to those glory days.
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Old 28-06-2012, 09:41
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Spain's victory over Portugal in the ‪#Euro2012‬ semi-final peaked with 13.5m viewers on ‪#BBC1‬

http://twitter.com/sam_hodges
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Old 28-06-2012, 09:52
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Wow. Massive peak.
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Old 28-06-2012, 09:56
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8.8m average for Spain narrow triumph v portugal in 1st #Euro2012 semi, comfortably biggest audience of night. Peak 13.5m. Corrie No2, c.7m

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Old 28-06-2012, 10:00
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8.8m average for Spain narrow triumph v portugal in 1st #Euro2012 semi, comfortably biggest audience of night. Peak 13.5m. Corrie No2, c.7m

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Euro 2012 is doing really well. These ratings makes the 2010 world Cup look like a seriously bad flop.

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Old 28-06-2012, 10:19
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Olympic rights are really expensive especially when you consider NBC won't be able to air many if any events live which is probably why they they'll make a loss. The 2016 Olympics in Rio will likely make them profit as it's in a similar time zone to America.
It's a shame they have to be so arsey as to what to show live and so on. If the wedding in the morning can bring in million im sure getting affiliates to move local news in afternoon or moving other daytime trash would see increase in viewers.
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Old 28-06-2012, 10:47
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And just to clarify from yesterday's post - the BBC will be inside the Olympic Park (reusing the World Cup 2010 studio) for BBC1/3 coverage.
BBC 3 has a seperate studio beside BBC ONE, I believe their studio will be open fronted unlike BBC One's.

NBC will have two huge indoor studios in the IBC and an outdoor location, possibly for The Today Show in the park, at Park Live East.
The main BBC studios will be next to McDonalds at World Square, the other international broadcasters requiring their own studios closeby.
Luckily the BBC and NBC have been alllowed create their own studios throughout the park because from the photos I have seen the temporary block being used by the International rights holders has a terrible view.
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