Let's be honest here, about 80% of the posts in here are nothing to with ratings and arguments from people over different broadcasters and programmes and user's opinions and so on.

Would it not be a good idea to just have a straightforward bare bones Ratings Thread where actual ratings can be posted so people don't have to trawl through pages of conversation to find, you know, ratings, along with a fuller Ratings Discussion Thread. Maybe? Who knows it may be the worst idea in the world but I just thought it was good idea myself to throw out here.

Get over it mate, it's part and parcel of the thread.

The DS round ups should do the trick and are you really telling me it's that difficult to scroll down?

So you feel you need to have a dig at EE because you don't feel Corrie is getting enough praise? Aww diddums and tbh I find it pretty worrying that you keep a record of who posted what since 2010.


The soaps forum has been full of EE criticism for about two years now while Collinson's Corrie has been praised by some to high heaven even during periods it hasn't deserved it. And you as a Corrie fan feel you're hard done by? One night when EE is rightfully being praised and you can't handle it.


Yeah because Corrie have never won a soap award have they? I would have thought it was obvious why EE wins more than Corrie it has a younger audience. That's also why Corrie generally pips EE in the overnight ratings despite EE having a bigger audience overall.

Well, how nice. It was just a suggestion.

I think the problem is nobody can debate constructively and impartially. Everyone has their own agenda and they stick to it.

Anyway you won't be hearing any more from me on the subject of EE vs Corrie as I have placed that user on ignore.

Maybe I was naive when I signed up here but I can't believe some just post bad things about EE because they're Corrie fans.

the thread has gotten a little bit out of hand

Random thing I spotted on BARB - Britain's Next Top Model on Sky Living posted its best ever series premiere ratings (perhaps boosted by appearing on Sky Anytime?). 576,000 (inc +1) watched, up from 506,000 last year, 422,000 for Elle MacPherson's first year in 2010 and 343,000 in 2009. It considerably outpaced the 353,000 that watched Katie Price's reality show. They've begun promoting their star fronted fashion series Styled to Rock which features and is Exec Produced by Rihanna.

Sky Living and NBC are teaming up on a 10 part drama, Dracula. Jonathan Rhys Meyers takes the title role in the series which is set in 1890's London.

Deadline

Interesting to see the BBC Two schedules for next week. Obviously BBC One stuff has given pre-watershed a boost - but even then you've got brand new stuff scheduled at 9pm every single night. And not just filler, either - a new seres of Vexed, plus Horizon specials, the Great British Story and new shows like The Dark or The Midwives that you would usually expect the channel to have high hopes for. It's as strong a weekly schedule for them as I can remember seeing all year!

I can't work out whether thats because they do feel there'll be a sizeable anti-Olympics audience, or just because they feel compelled to be offering new programming as an alternative. At the moment, I'm leaning to the former. It's worth remembering that in the first week, BBC One's 'big attractions' are mostly over by 9pm with the conclusion of the swimming. I wonder if we can expect to see a reasonable switchover at that time? If so, with ITV1's schedule pretty anonymous, BBC Two could be in a good place to capitalise.

(This post might look stupid if next week rolls round and the Olympics has 8-12m audiences all night crushing everything in its path - but it's just too difficult to predict how things will pan out.)

I think you're absolutely spot on here. Also with shows like holby and EE on 2 for the duration of the games, there'll be something of an upsurge in their normal evening ratings, so it makes sense to build on that and use it to showcase new programming.

Yeah, and the other thing is that it's all demonstrably upmarket BBC2 stuff as well, on Saturday we have the Prom and the documentary about Beethoven. It would have been easy for BBC2 at 9pm and on Saturday to be a bit more populist with the likes of Top Gear and Miranda but they haven't done that.

The thing about the idea that the BBC is "increasingly becoming ratings obsessed" is that they've always been interested in ratings and it's easy to find examples of cynical decisions in their history. In the 1970 World Cup they showed all the England matches and all the other big games, usually head to head with ITV, and in the Radio Times the Head of Sport wrote a piece basically saying "We're not alternating with ITV because our coverage is best so we'll show what we want".

In the eighties, the Home Secretary complained they'd moved the news and Panorama to show The Thorn Birds. In the nineties, Little and Large were axed and then repreived as the management demanded they returned because they got high ratings, plus they also commissioned Caught In The Act, an atrocious rip-off of You've Been Framed, purely for the ratings, and there was Eldorado too. And a decade ago there was Fame Academy being revamped as a spoiler.

So to suggest the BBC are "increasingly ratings obsessed" makes no sense, especially as all anyone bases that on is the fact they said a show had high ratings, when it did.

Don't really agree, the only reasons conversation is turning elsewhere is because not much is happening with the ratings, although that's all about to change.

The thing that puzzles me as a general lurker is when people question why people are discussing ratings

Most often when the BB ratings are being discussed, someone will pop up saying "i don't get the constant BB rating analysis" ... That's what the thread is for


Little demand because they were reported 12hrs before your post?

In regard to BB the thing is those ratings are virtually the same every single day, they are usually between 1.2m and 1.6m, sometimes they are below that and sometimes above that (very rarely. Then they will demand the +1 figure which in reality is very easy to guess. This is like this for 9 weeks or so every day. I don't know if that is a good or a bad thing but I personnaly lost interest in BB years ago so to me at least reading them is a complete waste of time if nothing ever changes ratings wise.

The reason why there's other discussion going on is because ratings aren't being posted as often. It is still general TV discussion about ratings which I find interesting. If people want a boring, bland, vanilla place to discuss purely ratings and numbers they can use the comments section underneath the ratings reports. Be warned. That's where the real crazies live!

I would have thought the ratings are being reported less because people are on holiday and things get a bit slower in the summer.

I'm generally interested in the various discussions and arguments that happen here. I don't really get some people's obsessive defence of a particular Channel whatever that might be but thats up to them. If it was just about ratings I would find it a bit dull.

They are so obsessed with ratings they want BBCs1,2&3 to be the most watched channels, relegating ITV1 to fourth. They have even altered the layout of the Radio Times, the bastards...

Thing is though, maybe they can relegate "ITV Marple" to 4th place...

I bet ratings were really low last night only thing I watched was turn back time.

I would hope Line of Duty, the stand out show of 2012 so far, hit a new high for its final episode.

hopefully it will have over 3 million.

The thing is when one person is on holiday at a TV channel there'll still be others to send the ratings out. I agree that pure ratings analysis discussion is dull and these topics have naturally come about from the general flow of discussion. "I see EastEnders is down. Well look what it clashed with. Last year it did better. Is it the quality?" And that's how the discussion comes about. I'd still say that was about ratings in a roundabout way.

Looks like Noel won't be returning to his rightful place on Saturday night BBC1:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ng-enough.html

Just bring back House Party....

Glad to see Vexed returning. I loved it, even if no-one else did...

A pretty exciting cast and writing team behind it, will be interesting to see how it turns out.

Presumably Sky Living's biggest and most expensive commission to date.

It doesn't bode well when even the presenter thinks the show is crap
Who to present it? Norton or Barrowman?

Does anyone know when New Tricks is returning?