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The Ratings Thread (Part 37)
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fugitive
28-06-2012
Anyone know how CopyCats / Shaun the Sheep is doing in the 5.10pm BBC2 slot? Be interesting to see how these shows stand up in this slot with no Pointless or Money Where Your Mouth Is currently being shown.
Andy23
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by ftv:
“ITN will have two minutes' news access”

Plus interviews, reporters bits etc, i.e the normal length of a report within a news bulletin.
ftv
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Plus interviews, reporters bits etc, i.e the normal length of a report within a news bulletin.”

Absolutely but only two minutes of action.And the interviews have to be done outside the Olympic venues so they may have difficulty getting people shortly after an event.
NeilVW
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Is it me (probably!) but I cant understand how BBC2 can have such a bad share in the middle of Wimbledon fortnight?”

I think it might be you George

BBC2's worst performance for a Wednesday peaktime in 12 years yesterday can be explained by:

1. No Murray at SW19, limiting the performance of 2 hours of primetime;
2. Football on BBC1 performing very strongly, meaning
(a) Secret History of our Street at 21.00 sank to a series low of 1.1m/5%, down from a series average of 1.8m/8%*;
(b) The Culture Show at 22.00, hardly ratings gold to start with, must have been obliterated by extra time and penalties on the other side (would like to know the rating);
(c) Newsnight clashed with the 6.1m-rating BBC1 news, surely denting it severely.

It must be said, however, that BBC2 also had its worst all-day Wednesday share ever* (4.6%*, same share as primetime). I suggest this was due to the factors above, plus CBBC running up to 17.50. Altogether there were eight hours of low-rating children's programmes on BBC2 yesterday.

* Courtesy ITV Media, C4 Sales
Cent
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by ftv:
“Absolutely but only two minutes of action.And the interviews have to be done outside the Olympic venues so they may have difficulty getting people shortly after an event.”

Two minutes is quite a lot. It's a news programme, rather than a highlights show. 100m lasts 10 seconds, they can fit quite a lot of small clips into that time.
ronant
28-06-2012
Nadal losing two sets to one on BBC Two right now (and with the roof the match WILL be completed, so could go late) plus fantastic Euro 2012 semi on BBC One. Great drama from the BBC, who said BBC Sport was dead?!
5 a day
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by NeilVW:
“It must be said, however, that BBC2 also had its worst all-day Wednesday share ever* (4.6%*, same share as primetime). I suggest this was due to the factors above, plus CBBC running up to 17.50. Altogether there were eight hours of low-rating children's programmes on BBC2 yesterday.

* Courtesy ITV Media, C4 Sales”

I'm surprised it's never gone lower than that (not sure what usually props them up on Wednesday).
I bet most of those kid's shows were repeats too. Very lazy.
garyessex
28-06-2012
Hopefully a decent +1 figure for Hollyoaks tonight and maybe an uplift for tomorrows eps aswell
SamuelW
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by ronant:
“Nadal losing two sets to one on BBC Two right now (and with the roof the match WILL be completed, so could go late) plus fantastic Euro 2012 semi on BBC One. Great drama from the BBC, who said BBC Sport was dead?!”

There's less sport on the BBC these days than 5-10 years ago. Its not dead but its becoming less and less. Someone said theres going to be only 4 live top class football matches on BBC between end of Euros and 2014?!
Cent
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“There's less sport on the BBC these days than 5-10 years ago. Its not dead but its becoming a rarer event. Someone said theres going to be only 4 live football matches on BBC between end of Euros and 2014?!”

There'll be showing loads live during London 2012.
SamuelW
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by Cent:
“There'll be showing loads live during London 2012.”

From after the Olympics I shouldve said!
allthingsuk
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“Hopefully a decent +1 figure for Hollyoaks tonight and maybe an uplift for tomorrows eps aswell”

Big big shock in the E4 episode and tomorrow's C4 episode. This shock should have been done in winter with larger ratings.
Cent
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“From after the Olympics I shouldve said!”

Do you know what the four are? I can't even think.

Also, do we know who will show the Scotland - England game next year?

If they get the marketing right, and its not on Sky, it could be huge. They won't have played in 14 years.
ElliotSaunders
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Has that been officially confirmed then?”

Nope

The British Olympic Association confirm they are yet to receive Team GB's men's football's full 18-man squad list.

The statement reads: "With respect to men's football, the BOA has not yet received from the FA the list of players who are being nominated for Team GB, so we cannot confirm who is, and is not, under consideration for the side. We are expecting the list no later than the early part of next week."

Taken from BBC Sportsday live page.
Brekkie
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by ronant:
“Nadal losing two sets to one on BBC Two right now (and with the roof the match WILL be completed, so could go late) plus fantastic Euro 2012 semi on BBC One. Great drama from the BBC, who said BBC Sport was dead?!”

Now ruined by the stupid roof at least an hour before it goes dark - an enforced 30 minute break means it'll certainly be kicked of BBC2 now.

Originally Posted by garyessex:
“Hopefully a decent +1 figure for Hollyoaks tonight and maybe an uplift for tomorrows eps aswell”

That'll test the social buzz strategy a week ahead of the launch of 4seven, which if you haven't seen the schedule is basically More4-2.

Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“There's less sport on the BBC these days than 5-10 years ago. Its not dead but its becoming less and less. Someone said theres going to be only 4 live top class football matches on BBC between end of Euros and 2014?!”

I don't think the BBC have any live rights now to top class football other than the tournaments unless they've bought up some England away games. Then again though you said top class...
SamuelW
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by Cent:
“Do you know what the four are? I can't even think.

Also, do we know who will show the Scotland - England game next year?

If they get the marketing right, and its not on Sky, it could be huge. They won't have played in 14 years.”

Someone said on this thread a couple days ago that BBC got a few Scotland World Cup qualifiers. Itv normally show England home friendlies dont they, so they will probably have that Scotland match. Most people in England regard Scotland as a very poor team though so dont expect ratings to be too huge, just look at lack of interest for Republic of Ireland matches this summer in Euros cos of how rubbish they were.

Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“I don't think the BBC have any live rights now to top class football other than the tournaments unless they've bought up some England away games. Then again though you said top class... ”

England are the 7th best team in the world according to FIFA rankigns, I say thats top class
Jonwo
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“Now ruined by the stupid roof at least an hour before it goes dark - an enforced 30 minute break means it'll certainly be kicked of BBC2 now.”

Could BBC One fit in tennis along with the football especially if they have to air the news at 10ish. Mock the Week is in a pickle as you can't push it back a week.
pieboyjr
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Could BBC One fit in tennis along with the football especially if they have to air the news at 10ish. Mock the Week is in a pickle as you can't push it back a week.”

Tennis now on until 10pm on BBC Two.
Cent
28-06-2012
They should move the Tennis or Mock the Week to BBC3 at 10pm if still going. In today's television landscape BBC3 is as accessible as BBC2, something I think might be established more during London 2012.

They're only showing Little Britain.

I'm not sure why they continue to schedule Today at Wimbledon at 8pm - every time I watch it seems to end up rescheduled, shortened, cancelled. Why can't they run Wimbledon highlights on BBC1 at 10.35pm? (and an hour later on Thursdays).
danisfunny
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by Cent:
“They should move the Tennis or Mock the Week to BBC3. In today's television landscape BBC3 is as accessible as BBC2, something I think might be established more during London 2012.

They're only showing Little Britain.

I'm not sure why they continue to schedule Today at Wimbledon at 8pm - every time I watch it seems to end up rescheduled, shortened, cancelled. Why can't they run Wimbledon highlights on BBC1 at 10.35pm? (and an hour later on Thursdays).”

I agree the olympics should be a great time for bbc3... with more awareness, and trailing of shows..
Jonwo
28-06-2012
Tennis on BBC Three would be interesting but its not shown tennis before, I reckon they'd move Mock the Week but it depends on how long the match goes on for.
Cent
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Tennis on BBC Three would be interesting but its not shown tennis before, I reckon they'd move Mock the Week but it depends on how long the match goes on for.”

I don't think it will occur to them sadly. But they should probably move the tennis so it doesn't affect anyone's Sky+ or PVR'ing of Mock the Week. Also easier to move the Tennis audience - you just need to tell them once to switch over, trying to communicate that to people tuning in for Mock the Week would be hard.
pieboyjr
28-06-2012
Heather Watson will be second on Centre Court tomorrow for her third round match. So probably on court at around 4pm after Djokovic.
NeilVW
28-06-2012
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“ Mock the Week is in a pickle as you can't push it back a week.”

They could slot it in by dumping Episodes which airs tomorrow at 22.00 - few would miss it if they pushed it back a week. Won't happen though.

Originally Posted by 5 a day:
“I'm surprised it's never gone lower than that (not sure what usually props them up on Wednesday).
I bet most of those kid's shows were repeats too. Very lazy.”

What normally props them up is adult-focused daytime shows in the late afternoon. However I've just checked and CBBC also ran up to 17.50 on the equivalent Wednesday last year in the first week of Wimbledon. So the kids' shows can't be used as a clinching factor in the record low all-day Wednesday share. Today CBBC ended at 17.00 because of the special Bomber Command doc.

Almost all the kids' shows on BBC1/2 are repeats. The only exception today was Newsround.
pieboyjr
28-06-2012
Mock The Week now Sunday at 10.10
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