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I went to see the torch relay on Sunday, and I think as it gets even closer the media will go into overdrive, irrespective of whether it's BBC, Sky or ITV.
It's the biggest event of our generation, even if you don't like the Olympics, chances are you will tune in just to see some of it. I think it was trickytree1979 who told us that the Royal Wedding reached over 30 million people, I expect the Opening Ceremony to do the same. Personally I think it will peak in the 20 millions, if not 30 millions. If 20m peak watch an BGT/X Factor final, an England game, you can expect similar levels as a starting point - but the scope of this audience is much wider than those - this more than any other big event will attract audiences from 5 to 95 and will build steadily from 7pm onwards. |
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Early days of course, but the 4Seven/More4 comparison is embarrassing.
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It's not a winning argument to point out ratings increase with a move from BBC2 -> BBC1 !
Of course it is an explanation as to why they do it. But it's not a justification. The BBC should be putting the overall service ahead of mere ratings. Moves are so crass and grabbing. I'm amazed that anyone would defend the BBC in this kind of behaviour. |
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Its not crass at all. The BBC's aim for big sporting events is to "bring the nation together" and it does that a lot better on BBC1 than BBC2. How is having DIY SOS on the main channel putting on a better service than a quarter final of Winbledon involving a British player?
It's a blatant ratings grab. And you are confusing two issues anyway. Even if BBC1 were to feature such Murray-centric programming, it is a different matter to move a programme at the very last moment. It's desperate. |
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Looking at BBC One's figures, I think they will regret moving Murray to BBC Two at 18:00 when you consider that BBC Two beat BBC One in the 18:00 hour. Chances are it would have peaked a lot higher than 7.1m had it stayed on BBC One throughout, with the Regional News at 20:00.
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BBC confirming this afternoon that Match Of The Day 2 is moving to BBC One. Quote:
With an increased number of Premier League games now played on a Sunday, the BBC will bring all of the weekend’s football action to its audiences via the nation’s favourite channel. http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...012/motd2.html
Match Of The Day 2 will air on BBC One at 10.25pm on Sundays from the start of the 2012/13 season while Match Of The Day will continue to air in its regular Saturday night slot. Danny Cohen, Controller, BBC One, says: “As a huge fan of Match Of The Day I'm thrilled that MOTD2 is moving to a regular home on BBC One. The audience response to the BBC's coverage of Euro 2012 has been fantastic, meaning that this is the perfect moment to make this move.” |
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EastEnders was never going to do well last night , that BBC 3 repeat figure is damm near a mircale, considering that the internet basically acted like someone had shot its cat, in its reaction of the episode. Cant say im overly surprised "When im 65 wasnt a big hit" who wants to face there old age before they have to?
The One Show did better than expected on BBC Two, even if it was poorly named. four7 is still new, people dont know what it is yet, but lets be honest its schedule is about as bland, as Lady Gaga is over the top. |
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BBC confirming this afternoon that Match Of The Day 2 is moving to BBC One.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...012/motd2.html Danny obviously reads this thread... ![]() It sticks 2 fingers up at Chris Patten too, I imagine, which is a bonus. |
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four7 is still new, people dont know what it is yet, but lets be honest its schedule is about as bland, as Lady Gaga is over the top.
To me it's a waste of bandwidth (even Film4+1 would have been a better use of the Freeview space) but those launch night numbers weren't bad at all. |
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Judging by recent reactions to EE. I reckon it will drop to the mid 4m next week.
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Judging by recent reactions to EE. I reckon it will drop to the mid 4m next week.
EDIT-The last few weeks alot of people praised EastEnders it's only the last 2 episodes that has had 'some' people moaning.It's a soap and it's had people complaing before and it's done nothing to the viewing figures. Look at how many complained about the Baby swap and ratings actually went up |
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No more bland than a typical C4 or More4 schedule.
To me it's a waste of bandwidth (even Film4+1 would have been a better use of the Freeview space) but those launch night numbers weren't bad at all. Quote:
Judging by recent reactions to EE. I reckon it will drop to the mid 4m next week.
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I agree its a waste of bandwidth, however I dont think its going to be broadcasting at a bit rate that would make movies worth watching on it.
I haven't even retuned for it yet.
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Its not crass at all. The BBC's aim for big sporting events is to "bring the nation together" and it does that a lot better on BBC1 than BBC2. How is having DIY SOS on the main channel putting on a better service than a quarter final of Winbledon involving a British player?
It's a bit like if BBC2 had a football match and it went to penalities, that it should be moved to BBC1 for the penalities only? |
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Oh? Is it a poor quality stream then?
I haven't even retuned for it yet. ![]() Ive not retuned for it yet either. |
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EDIT-The last few weeks alot of people praised EastEnders it's only the last 2 episodes that has had 'some' people moaning.It's a soap and it's had people complaing before and it's done nothing to the viewing figures. Look at how many complained about the Baby swap and ratings actually went up |
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Just commenting on reactions. I tuned in one episode of the week and was bored by it. They need a shake up, and quick! At this point of the year, they should really be getting in the high 7m and low 8m.
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Just commenting on reactions. I tuned in one episode of the week and was bored by it. They need a shake up, and quick! At this point of the year, they should really be getting in the high 7m and low 8m.
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That's just BBC spin, "bring the nation together".
It's a blatant ratings grab. And you are confusing two issues anyway. Even if BBC1 were to feature such Murray-centric programming, it is a different matter to move a programme at the very last moment. It's desperate. Im sure the match would have been moved earlier but there's many issues with moving/delaying the news and regional news, especially on a big news day too. And again, I think its confusing how you criticise the BBC for a "blatant ratings grab" when you say terrestrial TV is dying whenever those channels get low ratings compared to multichannel viewing. Quote:
Is giving viewers the last 20 mins of a match that goes on for hours really what they mean though? The extra viewers only watched because it was shoved in their face. A lot of things would get bigger audiences if they were scheduled like this.
It's a bit like if BBC2 had a football match and it went to penalities, that it should be moved to BBC1 for the penalities only? The football analogy isnt really comparable, the game's duration, start time and teams are all known in advance. And if the game was only deemed worthy of a BBC2 showing then they wouldnt be fussed on moving it to BBC1 anyway. |
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I expect a good peak for Big Brother eviction tomorrow given its quite an important eviction (if you follow the show).
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Grauniad on MOTD2's move to BBC1
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...the-day-2-bbc1 http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...ay-nights.html |
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The Eastenders storyline sounds like a right turn-off. Emmerdale did well against the tennis last night. Really looking forward to the opening ceremony of the Olympics.
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The Eastenders storyline sounds like a right turn-off. Emmerdale did well against the tennis last night. Really looking forward to the opening ceremony of the Olympics.
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I have long called for this. A sensible move.
Danny obviously reads this thread... ![]() It sticks 2 fingers up at Chris Patten too, I imagine, which is a bonus. I don't know why Chris Patten is such a bogeyman, I know he used to be a Tory MP and I'd probably rather have anyone but, but if he was desperate to screw over the BBC then he wouldn't have picked as DG someone who'd spent their entire career there and clearly loves it, he'd have got some outsider in. And Patten is saying the right things, obviously he's going to be more interested in the upmarket stuff because he's a middle-aged middle class white man and they're areas in which the BBC are expected to set the cultural agenda. He's from a similar background to the likes of Marmaduke Hussey and Christopher Bland, and more or less all the Chairmen apart from Michael Grade. But when has Patten ever said the Beeb shouldn't be doing entertainment? All he's said is that entertainment and sport is less of a priority when hardly anyone else wants to do news, drama or kids' shows, but anyone could say that. I'd say that if I was Chairman because it's obvious. It doesn't mean wall-to-wall Shakespeare and Stockhausen. |
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I dunno, though, the bonus of it being on BBC2 was that a) it could be on at 10pm, rather than having to wait until nearer half past, and b) it gave BBC2 a really strong night and it had a logical lead-in from the likes of Top Gear, Brian Cox, Louis Theroux and so on, as opposed to a period drama and the news. Also, c) the name made sense.
I don't know why Chris Patten is such a bogeyman, I know he used to be a Tory MP and I'd probably rather have anyone but, but if he was desperate to screw over the BBC then he wouldn't have picked as DG someone who'd spent their entire career there and clearly loves it, he'd have got some outsider in. And Patten is saying the right things, obviously he's going to be more interested in the upmarket stuff because he's a middle-aged middle class white man and they're areas in which the BBC are expected to set the cultural agenda. He's from a similar background to the likes of Marmaduke Hussey and Christopher Bland, and more or less all the Chairmen apart from Michael Grade. But when has Patten ever said the Beeb shouldn't be doing entertainment? All he's said is that entertainment and sport is less of a priority when hardly anyone else wants to do news, drama or kids' shows, but anyone could say that. I'd say that if I was Chairman because it's obvious. It doesn't mean wall-to-wall Shakespeare and Stockhausen. Ken |
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